Team Schleck: Going Straight to the Top
The new Luxembourg team involving the dynamic brothers of Fränk and Andy Schleck has started to become more clear over the previous week with new details emerging about the team.
A new interview has emerged from Danish paper Weekend Avisen with an interview from Brian Nygaard, the Dane talked openly about the team that he and Kim Andersen are spearheading. Among other things, he talks about the money behind the project, a Luxembourger named Flavio Becca (Becco is disguise?). A man who made his fortune in real estate in and extremely astute isn't stupid when it comes to cycling (i.e. he knows what he is talking about), he hired Nygaard on Andersen's recommendation and offered him the role of director.
-The team is working with a reported 13.5 million euro budget (That is nearly 20 million $USD) which is near astronomical in cycling terms. That would put them almost right near the top of any cycling teams in the Pro Tour. To put that in perspective, that is almost 3 times the budget of Euskatel-Euskadi.
-Two businesses have been linked to the title sponsor position, according to L'Equipe: Quick, fast-food hamburger chain that is major within France and Belgium, with Luxembourg being one of the other 9 countries that they are located in. The other is a supermarket chain, Auchan (founded in Roubaix funnily enough), with whom Becca has close ties with the head which would make it likely as well. The Mulliez family, who own Auchan and is one of the wealthiest in France, have also delved into sponsorship in cycling before because they own companies such as Decathlon, whose bikes AG2R rode for many years.
-With all of the money that they will reportedly be having, this team will certainly pull a good amount of riders away from Riis and is probably making the rounds to teams like Milram and Caisse d'Epargne. You have both of the Schleck brothers with Fuglsang most likely tagging along. Its tough to speculate transfers with these new teams since they can seemingly choose anybody with the amount of money that they have. Though you have to think they need a sprinter (Bennati is a strong choice here) and if the Feillu Bros. do not reconcile with Vacansoleil, they might try to negotiate out and during the Tour were reportedly in contact with Andersen and Nygaard.
In any event, it is going to be interesting what happens with this new Luxembourg team which I am very excited about and will most likely dominate many of the headlines throughout the off-season.
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Disappointed
I found nothing about this report in my local paper.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
haha!
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Aug 1, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Can you believe it?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Astute?
Vlaand, can you tell us why you have called the money behind the project astute? And more, can you at this point compare this team to the recent start-ups like Cervelo and Sky and Katusha? Um, perhaps that is premature?
Oh those were words from Nygaard himself about Becca. Should re-phrase most likely...It was just that he isn't completely idoitic when it
comes to cycling and knows what his is talking about and what to do with it.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Nygård spin
I am not so sure he (Becca) knows so very much about cycling. According to the article the project had hit at stop in April becourse they had been getting bad advice, hence the contact to Nygård to ask him to take over the project, and he was very happy to do so – who would not be happy with a big paycheck.
by LittleOldLady on Aug 1, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
guess now there will be a Schleck burger to compete with Anelka and Michalak burgers! ;)
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
the Schleck burger
will reignite the “Where’s the beef?” slogan.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Do the Schleck's have any involvement with the formation of this team.
Was there any connection to Becca other than a shared nationality.
They are all dopers. Each and every one. There, now that I've said it I can get all smug and say I told you so when someone gets caught.
I think I read that Auchan denied involvement
Also, has anyone heard anything more than name-dropping re: Jens! Or Cance? Not that I’m preoccupied or anything…
"And at this moment I start thinking it would be a good time to break my collarbone."- Jens!
by mplng on Aug 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's alot of money
This team’s going to be very exciting, if they have a budget like that. Either way, I can’t wait til they announce the details.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
Because some one was thinking it.
From Weilerflits
‘Team Luxemburg’ (Luxemburg) NIEUW
In
Andy Schleck (Lux) < Team Saxo Bank
Fränk Schleck (Lux) < Team Saxo Bank
Daniele Bennati (Ita) < Liquigas-Doimo
Linus Gerdemann (Dui) < Team Milram
Matti Breschel (Den) < Team Saxo Bank
Jakob Fuglsang (Den) < Team Saxo Bank
Gustav Erik Larsson (Zwe) < Team Saxo Bank
Stuart O’Grady (Aus) < Team Saxo Bank
Nicki Sørensen (Den) < Team Saxo Bank
Jens Voigt (Dui) < Team Saxo Bank
Carlos Sastre (Spa) < Cervélo Test Team
Brice Feillu (Fra) < Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team
Romain Feillu (Fra) < Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team
Andy and Frank are the only confirmed riders, the rest are rumored to be joining.
They are all dopers. Each and every one. There, now that I've said it I can get all smug and say I told you so when someone gets caught.
Sastre?
I don’t see that happening. I don’t think he particularly likes the Schlecks based off of past comments. And I think he’ll be at Cervelo until he retires.
I don’t you think you put as much work into forming a team as Sastre has just to walk away after two years.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Not sure how much credence I'd give that website
It seems to be a not-very-well edited collection of rumors, given that it also has Sastre going to Footon/Geox, Scarponi going to Astana (actually, he just signed with Lampre), and lists Richie Porte as being on Caisse.
"And at this moment I start thinking it would be a good time to break my collarbone."- Jens!
by mplng on Aug 1, 2010 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Confirmed transfers are in bold, the rest is just rumours
Also, it’s a forum thread, so I guess it’s edited by the user that started it. And no, it doesn’t say Richie Porte is on Caisse, it says that Porte is rumoured to go to Caisse.
by blackswangreen on Aug 1, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
They are rumors.
At this point that is what most transfers are. It’s conceivable that some of the rumors are started with the intention of raising a riders worth by their agents so that they can bargain for higher salaries even if they don’t want to leave their current team. I posted the list because I thought it would be a reference for the inevitable speculation on the Luxemberg teams composition.
They are all dopers. Each and every one. There, now that I've said it I can get all smug and say I told you so when someone gets caught.
To add to the rumor mill
Velonews has Jens, Gerdemann, Wegmann, Frohlinger, & Dominic Klemme joining up, but it also says that the team might not get off the ground until 2012, in which case the Schlecks might go to RSH next year… “curiouser and curiouser”…
And yup, my bad on the Porte thing
"And at this moment I start thinking it would be a good time to break my collarbone."- Jens!
I hope that this doesn't end up like the Linda McCartney team
supposedly financed by a rich benefactor who doesn’t actually put any of their own money in.
That's my expectation
Contador comes in, team as we know it exits stage right. Even though, i will second the credibility of this site, there are some pretty out there rumors on that site, and alot of them look more like plausible rider destinations than actual links between rider and team.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
by agl on Aug 1, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that tried something different though
Cervelo proved in 2009 that you could be a Pro Conti at the highest level. But I think the lesson that was missed was you need a rider who has finished on a GT podium on your team to get GT invites. Sastre at Cervelo; Evans at BMC.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Not missed by the UCI though...
…if I understand them correctly, the new ‘qualifying for invites’ rules are basically designed to shut the door on this by also requiring PT status to have a chance in hell of qualifying. Is this right, or am I confusing what’s been approved with lots of proposals out there.
That's what it sounds like to me too
plus a points system that means Pro Conti teams can’t get to race more than two or three PT races a year each.
Yeah, I think that one was targeted directly at Cervelo. At least BMC claims they want to go PT next year.
The only thing I am not clear on is whether you can earn points through high results.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
In other words...
…you wanna race non-shit races, pay the fuck up! PT licenses ain’t cheap, after all.
They (UCI) had to do something about it.
Teams that paid for the PT license were getting passed up for Cervelo and BMC because they weren’t part of the older agreement. Radio Shack for instance weren’t too pleased that they weren’t invited to the Vuelta, while Cervelo got it’s third GT invite this year.
They are all dopers. Each and every one. There, now that I've said it I can get all smug and say I told you so when someone gets caught.
RadioShack is the only example I can think of though
RadioShack didn’t get a Vuelta invite. And they got left out of some Italian races in the spring because they pissed off the Giro organizers.
Is there any other ProTour teams that didn’t get invites to races they wanted?
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Well, the other option would have been to eliminate the stupid ProTour...
…and its bizarro exclusionary policies that keep local teams out of major national events—or force those events to be second-tier races. It may make sense in Western Europe, but it makes very little sense anywhere else. It’s a super-nice cash cow for the UCI though.
Some of the names seem fishy
Matti Breschel (Den)
I seem to remember him having stated that he were down to two teams, Riis and Rabo.
Gustav Erik Larsson (Zwe)
Swe! And his current contract includes 2011
Nicki Sørensen (Den)
Current contract includes 2011 and he’s a personal friend of Riis(only rider invited to Riis’ wedding last year)
Carlos Sastre (Spa)
Thought he left due to the Schlecks oO
I thought Sastre and Riis had the falling out?
and Sorensen, I believe, has been with the team longer than anyone, so it’s unlikely he would leave.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
by agl on Aug 1, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Quote from a quick Google search
The 33-year-old said: “I’m leaving the team because I don’t want to create any conflict with the younger riders who are coming up in the team.”
It looks like he had plenty of harsh words for Riis, but Andy was definitely part of the reason
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
The list is nonsense
It’s just “names on Saxo that we know”, I don’t see any actual substance in it.
(Not sure about the Bjarne /Nicki thing. I think it was actually the wives who were close friends there. I def think he is closer to Riis than Andersen though.
It never crossed my mind
But after googling I can see that you are right, it’s the wives that are friends.
Porte and CAS are staying with Riis for 2011
Confirmed to VeloNews
"And at this moment I start thinking it would be a good time to break my collarbone."- Jens!
by mplng on Aug 2, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
because they have contracts
but asides from that, i wouldn’t put it past them to be checking options on the side.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
by agl on Aug 2, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends if they start threatening lawsuits to grab riders currently under contract
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