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GP Ouest-France Plouay ................ LIVE

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Competing with the Limburg action in the Eneco we have some one-day ProTour racing in Brittany today. Run on the same course as the women did yesterday but 248 Km long(13 laps instead of 6) , this is a race that is open to all types of riders. Should be a good one.

Probable starting time for live video at 14:45 CEST (08:45 AM US EDT, 22:45 AUS EST)

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Gerrans... his time is here..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want Benoît Vaugrenard to win

But I’ll put my dosh on Elmiger (just ’cos)

by Drongo on Aug 22, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

like to see him win

his version of the swiss champs jersey looks better than fabu’s IMHO

by thebongolian on Aug 22, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huit hommes se sont échappés après un début de course extrêmement nerveux. Parmi ces huit fuyards, on note la présence notamment des Français Vaugrenard (FDJ) et Mangel (Saur-Sojasun). Après avoir grimpé jusqu’à 13 minutes, l’écart redescend progressivement sous l’impulsion des Liquigas qui roulent en tête du peloton. Au dernier pointage, ce dernier accuse un retard de 8 minutes.

by lucybears on Aug 22, 2010 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

8 men have escaped

Notably two Frnenchmen Vaugrenard and Mangel. Lead went out to 13 minutes but has dropped to 8 with Liquigas on the front of the bunch

by thebongolian on Aug 22, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Group of eight in full

Mathieu Drujon (Caisse d’Epargne), Benoît Vaugrenard (FDJ), Pablo Urtasun Pérez (Euskaltel-Euskadi), Danny Pate Garmin-Transitions),Yukihiro Boi (Skil-Shimano), Ivan Rovny (Team Radioshack), Mickaël Delage (Oméga-Pharma-Lotto),et Laurent Mangel (Saur-Sojasun).

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

100km to go

Riders now somewhere in middle of lap 8. Gap about 5min

Jonny Bellis now lost touch with peloton – but did manage 140km or so with the group, not bad on a comeback such as his.

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Latest

80 km to go (just over 4 laps)

En tête de course :
Mathieu Drujon (Caisse d’Epargne), Benoît Vaugrenard (FDJ), Pablo Urtasun Pérez (Euskaltel-Euskadi), Danny Pate Garmin-Transitions),Yukihiro Boi (Skil-Shimano), Ivan Rovny (Team Radioshack), Mickaël Delage (Oméga-Pharma-Lotto),et Laurent Mangel (Saur-Sojasun).

A 2 minutes 10 secondes, le groupe de contre :
Antony Charteau (Bbox Bouygues Telecom) et Alexandre Geniez (Skil-Shimano)

Le peloton est 2 minutes 40 seconde.

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

good morning

lots of attacks inlcuding pineau and moreau. is everybdy on the eneco thread??

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

grupo compacto

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

last lap

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is Gerrans there?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Practically the whole peloton is about 10 seconds behind

a small group of 5 giving it a go

Ticker not given any DNFs all race – but have to assume yes.

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perez and i are waiting for young Simon to do something...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well sky should be fresher than some teams

Not seen near the front of the peloton all race

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

for a while now :)

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

A long while...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hot and heavy action!

Go Leuki!!

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I so hope we have a repeat of yesterday

Emma P accelerating into the distance, with Marianne Vos killig herself to try to catch her was a beautiful piece of riding

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

CHava

first chase group, looks like he’s dragging Gilbert with him

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Pietropolli

is the lampre but after that I dunno

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lead group

Bjorn Leukemans et Wouter Poels (Vacansoleil), Laurent Mangel (Saur-Sojasun), Daniel Pietrolli (Lampre).

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Van Avermaet

not Gilbert

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

9" gap

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Second group

Chava, Zubes, GVA and Gavazzi

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

well done

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

catch!

so now eight

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

France 3

congratulating Chava for the work

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

taking off now

with Gerrans and ?

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

peloton

looking quite negative

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

good

I’ve had enough of positive looking riders

Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...

by TheFigurehead on Aug 22, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

escapees seem a little disorganized also

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Manel Lacambra

has tweeted that there are rumours Tour de l’Aude and Route de France are going next year – does anyone know anything about that?

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

going away?

or happening?

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

grr

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, that was mentioned in the French commentary of the women's race yesterday

I wasn’t paying proper attention, so I wondered whether I’d heard it right. That’s a real crisis for women’s cycling, especially the loss of Aude, I think.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

l'Aude

would be a massive, massive blow. I can’t see how the season works without it. I wonder how much it costs to run? I wonder if the UCI will step in and help try to find sponsorship? I mean, they owe the women’s season, after destroying Montréal & PEI & Montréal WC…

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

l'Aude has a budget of about half a million Euro

Route de France about 100,000 and Trophee d’Or about 120,000 (read the article that is a jpeg half way down the page)

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He just tweeted
I hear the problem come from the federation and maybe UCI. Money no problem.

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

so what the hell is the problem??

they don’t like women’s stage races or something??

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, and I'd like that too

But the immediate assumption that the UCI is behind everthing that is judged to be bad, particularly when the known evidence is one or two tweets, is a little presumptious – espcially when some other body is named first.

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

but we're going on past experience

and it was mentioned, so it’s not that presumptious

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The UCI aren't too bad

with all things other than the men’s Pro Tour. Among other things they pay CJ to cover a lot of the races

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

they mightily messed up the Canada thing in my view but...

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my evidence that they don't care about women's cycling.

I am jumping to conclusions here, but it’s a jump inspired by past experience.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Serious question

What role did the UCI have in the canadian races dropping from the calendar – other than possibly approving two mens races later in the year. The little I’ve read on the subject seems to be that the races were set to happen and that the organiser (Manibal) pulled the plug out half way through the year, and the races were then cancelled as no one else could step in.

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't had the time to look for it

but I seem to recall that one of the issues was that the authorities were not prepared to close the roads for both sets of races. The UCI therefore would be culpable (in my view) as they should have investigated a possible knock-on before approving the new men’s races.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The loss of the races was discussed

in this thread here at the cafe. The culpability of the UCI seems at best tenuous. The links mention that two regions had already removed the races from their budgets (my knowledge of local canadian local govt is less than sketchy but these regions seem to be part of the wider tour and not specifically part of the cities of Montreal or Quebec – the venues of the one day races being staged) and sponsorship issues in general. The articles also seem to concur that with the retirement of one man – three races bite the dust.

It seems presumptuous to assume no due dilliegence was followed by the UCI or indeed lay the blame for the races disappearance solely, or indeed primarily at the UCI’s door.

The race sites from last year (click presentations) feature glowing reports from ministers and local mayors. It is equally valid, based on these, to asssume the UCI was assured of continued support would be forthcoming at the time whichever UCI licencing committee approved the mens races in Aug/Sep 09, and due dilligence was indeed carried out.

I am continually reading that the UCI doesn’t care about women’s racing (above it says the UCI owe for destroying these races) but the more you read down into the stories the less and less that seems to add up – and the UCI are becoming a convenient peg on which to hang the blame for everything that displeases people -whether it is merited or not. (Not my words, but the words of the people doing the most vocal criticism)

UCI perfect in every way – no. But an omnipotent power and force for evil re womens racing – no also.

by andrewp on Aug 23, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

in which case, what is the Federation's problem?

The races are currently France’s chief contribution to women’s cycling. The commentators desperately searching for the first French rider home yesterday was pretty pitiful. What is it? We don’t have any riders who can win these races, therefore we’d better not have the races so we don’t look so bad??

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

they seem to have the development capabilities

for the men’s track side – I mean they’re a major world power in all things sprinty, so what stops them using that like Aus/Netherlands/GB do to also bring the women through?

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like some internal political struggle

Pierre Boue (ex organiser of the Grande Boucle) said something about how he several times thought that he had found a sponsor, only for a mysterious man in a grey suit to have a quiet word in ear of said potential sponsor.

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Monty translate

that the Plouay organisers wanted another WC round in Cholet as well?

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

(The fact that Monty didn’t mention the end of l’Aude made me think I’d heard it wrong!)

They said that they just needed the tv to confirm because they needed tv to make it viable. Good for them, I think their commitment to women’s racing is fantastic & shows what can be done. But with the best will in theo world another one day race won’t compensate for the lost of two major stage races.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

not after losing all the other stage races....

how many have we lost now? I really thought we’d reached the bottom, and it wouldn’t be possible to get worse… craziness as the racing keeps getting sronter

It would also mean just the Trofée d’Or as the only stage race in France – and that’s the most invisible race in the world…

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I half heard that too

but I assumed that if it really were the case then I would have read something elsewhere. They weren’t that concrete on the details. The real killer for all these races is the lack of TV time. That’s why I appreciate more and more RAI Sports which show lots of those little sports that probably have compaable numbers viewing as taking part.

Actually I’ve recorded the whole stream from yesterday but (technical alert) it was broadcast using WMV2, a Microsoft tningy that doesn’t add timestamps, so you can’t go forward or back but have to watch it all from the start every time. And being Microsoft, they’ve stamped down on companies producing software that would let you do that, or would translate it to some other format. If anyone knows of anything ….

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry Monty

I have so little faith in ability to understand French that I was relying on someone else for confirmation!

Can’t help with the irritating video issue, alas. But still, I was glad they did it.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to concentrate to understand it

Anyway, I’ve left it running and got to the spot again (it’s about 23km to go). They interview one of the organisers (not sure if he’s a Plouay organiser too) of the Cholet-Pays de Loire Féminin, the opening round of the women’s Coupe de France (itself a pretty slim competition with just 6 races this year). He says they have lodged a preliminary application with the UCI to make their race part of the World Cup. It would be the opening round actually, held on Sunday 20th March, one week before the Trofeo Alfredo Binda, and would be held on the same day as the Cholet-Pays de Loire Masculin. The Men’s race would start at about 11:30, the Women’s at 12:00, both would loop out into the countryside then return to the same finishing circuit. The race has already been running that way since 2004, but they would need a bit more money and some TV coverage to step up.

Now the possible downside is that that particular date is the Sunday after the Trofeo Costa Etrusca ends on the Saturday. That was cancelled this year, and a new race competing for the top riders wouldn’t help its chances of coming back. We shall see, I guess. The Cholet-Pays de Loire Masculin is part of the Men’s Coupe de France which I think French Eurosport has been showing this year, so there’s another possibility of TV coverage.

Now moving on to Aude and the Route de France, the French commentator, Emilie Menard, seemed pretty definite that both had been cancelled for next year, but I can’t see anyone else saying that. Yes, the organisers of Aude were saying during this year’s race that they needed a bit more money to be sure of continuing (things like the podium lorry needed replacing), and the Route really needs to work on getting publicity, but Aude’s website has a scrolling “see you next year” banner on it, and the Route is probably still tying up the ends of this year’s race. It’s around the 22km to go point if anyone can find the footage.

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF.

Ceci n'est pas une signature.

by tedvdw on Aug 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where was it Emma Pooley said that

all the races she wins fold the next year? Maybe her curse is real? Yikes!

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

10k

25"

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Hm

Peloton at 16". Attack weakening?

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I love these roads

really pretty little course.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

7km

9". Unlikely.

Where’s the remote commentator? Sounds like he’s in a blender.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

4k to go

right? That should decide things.

Woops, here we go

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gerro?

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Sky now, remember?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

oy

ignore me

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Appollonio

not a very convincing attack

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Garmen everywheree!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

by Triki on Aug 22, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Aussies everywhere! YAY :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peloton flying

this isn’t over yet.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Big sprint coming

result will be misleading, the action has been roaring for 20 minutes.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Goss!

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Sprint. HTC wins! Goss wins!

Farrar pulled a Sky – started way too early.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

You mean

Garmin are back to their 2009 form ;-)

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

(I am nostalgic

for all those races where Garmin lead out HTC so beautifully last year)

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Farrar was here?

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Australia year more like it.

Though they’re still only fourth in CQ.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we've quite learnt to win the very big races :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should have added consistently... taking nothing away from Evans. He's been fantastic all year :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Water off a duck's back..say what you like ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Belgian team were so good to him too ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's working fine for VDB :p

And they can’t help it that Cuddles’ Curse turns everyone into dopers, or they all start to suck once they’re away from the hog.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL...whateves, it's worked out well for everyone, which is good.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he is why McEwen didn't make the WC team..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

so many choices

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yet still we don't really have a favourite for the race..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the big question isn't it?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see him win

maybe he can improve before then? Maybe??

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The selectors seem to think so..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it up to him or Cervelo to make that decision?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or some sneaky anti-German plot

that was foiled in the most unexpected way?

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Giving up his passport was a surprise – esp as it makes getting to races round Europe 100000 times more annoying

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

having gone through that whole passport rigmarole

I wonder whether the Aussie squad doesn’t feel obliged to pick him…

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...

by TheFigurehead on Aug 22, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I very much doubt it. If they didn't pick McEwen, they'll have few qualms leaving GHH out

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

not at all sure about that

to finally make the switch I would expect HH to have had an assurance or two

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read fanshot re. McEwen...Haussler doesn't think it's a sure thing at all.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad form to say otherwise, surely.

Unless he’s properly injured he’ll be there. Neil Stephens’s reading of the race (in the same thread) suggests as much.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't believe there were assurances given...

call me naive =)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 23, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the unexpected that you have to worry about

Though perhaps there’s a sneaky German-Australian axis of evil.

by ursula on Aug 22, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or do the Australians just send him to Italy to work with their guys there?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Says back to racing at tour of britain

them some euro one day races according to his pisspoor blog at CN

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't believe farrar got that so wrong

well done goss, he is making a strong case that he deserves a worlds spot

by Nomer on Aug 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

How short the French memory is

this is apparently the first win by an Australian rider here

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad Gossy knew the answer..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Goss just corrected the interviewer in his post-race interviewer… “simon gerrans, last year”… and he just asked him if “you were very afraid, {of} pierrick fedrigo?” I love it when the French media or fans do things like that.

by Nomer on Aug 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Farrar

found himself on the front at 300 meters, whether he wanted to be there or not I dunno.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Doubt he really expected it until the last km

Such a tough last 5 km does not lend itself to bunch sprints.

by ursula on Aug 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

It wasn’t shaping up to a sprint, and he was on his own. I think learning to sprint in the bunch and learning to sprint at the end of a classic (i.e. with no mates) are different matters.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

murilo fischer was there. I saw the brazilian jersey

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top 10

GP Plouay: 1.Goss (HTC-Columbia) 2.Farrar 3.Offredo 4.Duque 5.Santambroggio 6.Sagan 7.Gavazzi 8.Marcato 9.Feillu 10.Appolonio

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Duque!

Lovely Leonardo! Should I have him in my Vuelta team again?

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tour Champion

Is the only race I care about – except for the cycling Fever Worlds race…. I want to win the women’s race…

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not the men's version? You break my heart girl.

Duque’s got no indiv score either, so he’ll be chea-eap.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Worlds team would go

Óscar, Barbie, Fab (repeat until full) – all heart over head! I am vaguely better at choosing the women based on actual real-life chances – and I DID win the Giro Donne stage race (thanks to Monty’s pick of Olga Z)

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oscar's gonna cost ya.

30/75 points. Fab 17, Barbie Barbie 15. That’s 13 points left for seven riders, if I can count correctly :)

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

to be honest

I’m better off picking them out of a hat…. although my TdF team was uncharacteristically good (helped by fact I did’t have Mick Rogers for GC again – facepalm!)

by Sarah Connolly on Aug 22, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finally!

Cazzo, it's going to be a bloodbath! The Mortirolo is a horror, absolutely interminable. -- Michele Scarponi

by tgartner on Aug 22, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

good weekend for my vds

tyler, sagan and that guy in the other race (no spoiler)

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

All power to the TDU I say :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 22, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many places get points in Plouay?

I have Farrar, Duque and Sagan.

My Eneco team is a disaster.

by afx237vi on Aug 22, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

top 15 places get points

Eneco, by definition since it’s a cat 5 race, cannot be a disaster.

by ursula on Aug 22, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top 20

1 123 AUS19861105 GOSS Matthew Harley THR AUS 6:37:53.
2 131 USA19840602 FARRAR Tyler GRM USA
3 86 FRA19861112 OFFREDO Yoann FDJ FRA
4 71 COL19800410 DUQUE Leonardo Fabio COF COL
5 66 ESP19850608 ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin GCE ESP
6 205 ITA19841007 SANTAMBROGIO Mauro BMC ITA
7 146 SVK19900126 SAGAN Peter LIQ SVK
8 33 ITA19840801 GAVAZZI Francesco LAM ITA
9 236 ITA19840211 MARCATO Marco VAC ITA
10 233 FRA19840416 FEILLU Romain VAC FRA
11 211 ITA19890602 APPOLLONIO Davide CTT ITA
12 188 DEN19850430 MORKOV Michael SAX DEN
13 85 FRA19800911 LE MEVEL Christophe FDJ FRA
14 32 SLO19850813 BOLE Grega LAM SLO
15 97 RUS19800707 KLIMOV Serguei KAT RUS
16 156 FRA19800102 PINEAU Jérôme QST FRA
17 118 BEL19801215 SENTJENS Roy MRM BEL
18 35 ITA19800809 MORI Manuele LAM ITA
19 201 ITA19791106 BALLAN Alessandro BMC ITA
20 6 BEL19831121 PAUWELS Serge SKY BEL

Full results

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Some facinating reading in these results

First, as we could tell, that bunch sprint just wasn’t organized at all since none of the teams were very organized or even had multiple riders in the leading group.

Then you go way down to the back of that bunch and you see guys like Gilbert, Hesjedal, and P Velits, riders who you might have thought would have tried for the win on that last hill but didn’t. Instead they were content to basically coast in on the tail end of the bunch. Guess they are saving their form for later races.

Then there’s the defending champ, Gerrans. In the group at 1’40: down, in 101st place. He’s having a miserable year.

by ursula on Aug 22, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last 5km now up on you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbpg6IvfjAw

On second look Garmin and HTC looked a little more organised in the last k than it first appeared.
Well done to Offredo also – he got the right wheel when he followed Goss and was strong enough to take advantage.

by andrewp on Aug 22, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truly miserable indeed.

A twentieth place for Serge Pauwels must be about the best spot he’s gotten this year. So that’s a little comfort for Sky.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was vaguely hoping Pauwels might do something or other.

A handful of places higher & I would have only had one VDS doughnut left! (Congrats to mpw5, btw.)

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes

mpw5 is the first to reach zero doughnuts! Currently, all other teams still have 2 or more.

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by tedvdw on Aug 22, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

The fact that we both had Mauro Santambrogio meant I had no chance of beating him/her (I think it’s him?).

Funny it’s two Sky riders who are letting me down. Still hopeful that Kennaugh might do something in the Vuelta but I fear today may have been Pauwels’s last best chance.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who knew

that Kevin Seeldraeyers, Marzio Bruseghin, Julien El Fares and Mikael Cherel would prove to be such flops. Well the last was always a bit of a long shot, but whatever happened to the BCS and to Donkey Man?

by Monty. on Aug 22, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know who BCS is.

But Donkeyman only really likes the month of may – so I’ve discovered by adding him to my 2009 TdF team.

Seeldraeyers was wrongfully diagnosed with a cardiac deficiency (the right word escapes me) in the winter months. He was ordered to stay off the bike for three weeks or so while he got a second opinion. He says that for weeks afterwards, he was scared to train really hard, to really go into the red zone, as he was afraid he was just going to drop dead on the spot. It’s not an excuse for his entire season, but missing the winter build up seriously influences a rider’s shape for the rest of the year.

by tgsgirl on Aug 22, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

(BCS = Belgian Climbing Sensation, normally Kevin Seeldraeyers, otherwise either JVDB or any other Belgian kid having a good day in the mountains.)

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by tedvdw on Aug 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think after the tour we need to stick

to VDB as the real BCS

"Last time I had a broken chain nobody waited for me. I had to chase all the freaking way to the finish. It is race!!" Alexandre Perez

by perezbike on Aug 22, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive

Dunno why but I have been tracking my no-hopers rather obsessively… no chance to get to zero donuts since I have Mattia Gavazzi and Oscar Pereiro, but if Mauro Santambrogio can score points surely my other underachievers (Cardoso, Pauriol, and Cam Meyer) can too.

Cazzo, it's going to be a bloodbath! The Mortirolo is a horror, absolutely interminable. -- Michele Scarponi

by tgartner on Aug 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking at the league table

I’m not sure you have quite the need for points that I do… ;-) I’ve been clinging to the doughnut league for some vague sense of VDS achievement.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

In celebration (& also in admission of defeat)

I’ve made a doughtnut thread. Yum!

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Aug 22, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woot!

I knew I only had one rider left to score, didn’t really think Santambrogio was going to be able to do it though.

Typically I missed today’s race, which appears likely to be the highlight of my VDS year…

Mark

by mpw5 on Aug 22, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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