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La Vuelta::Los Puntos -- Rainbow Arch From Sevilla to Geelong

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Once again, I leave the larger GC matters to my colleagues, señor Ursula in this case, and focus on the points. And here, the story is 100% Geelong. Never mind that we've all officially convinced ourselves that the World Championships course in Australia is not really for sprinters; it's too long and difficult. The sprinters themselves aren't giving up hope, and they're coming to Spain to make good on whatever promise actually does lie ahead. And there is no shortage of national federations building around the likes of Cavendish for the worlds, regardless of whatever speculation is being whipped up by IFPs. So nearly every sprinter you can think of is on his way south to Sevilla to take the start in the 2010 Vuelta a España, kicking off Saturday. The question though is whether Geelong will taketh away what it giveth, and dissuade the fastmen from spending themselves over the Cantabrian peaks en route to Madrid.

Star-divide

First, a few words about the route. The Vuelta has adopted ASO-speak regarding classifying stages, and has labeled no fewer than eleven of them as "plain". But in Spain this designation can be a bit comical at times. For example, stage 4 to Jaen is up and down for a while before culminating in a 15% grade to the line in the last km. Stage 10 ascends Lo Rat Penat, maxing out at 23% (not a typo), four km of punishment that should splinter the field 30km from the line. The Toledo stage will be tricky in the closing km. And some of the earlier ones just go up and down a lot... you never know.

A threshold question then: will a sprinter even win the points? Probably. No non-sprinter has won las puntas at the Vuelta since 2001, so unlike the Giro the GC guys tend not to be in play. And there aren't enough uphill finishes to upend the usual order of things in this year's race. The only reason it's a possibility is the prospect of the sprinters going home before Madrid and taking all their points with them. Then there's the crafty Hushovdian types, and if you're reading this sentence there's a 99% chance you were around when we belabored endlessly the point in July about the classification not being purely about sprinters... only to see Alessandro Petacchi and Mark Cavendish go 1-2. Anyway, the Vuelta has been the most sprinter-friendly of the grand tour points competitions, with Petacchi, Bennati, Hushovd, Van Avermaet and Greipel the post-Zabel-Era winners.

So let's do this in groups...

Group 1: The Rainbow Warriors

Members: Allan Davis, Mark Cavendish, Tyler Farrar, Alessandro Petacchi, Greg Van Avermaet, Wouter Weylandt, Oscar Freire, Baden Cooke, Matt Goss, William Bonnet, Julian Dean, Robert Forster. [adding:] And Thor Hushovd, who I somehow missed before.

Obviously I don't know the identity of every rider selected for the Worlds at this time, but this is my guess. With Tom Boonen sidelined* both Weylandt and the more versatile Van Avermaet are no doubt fancying their chances in Geelong, so they'll be here to do whatever is necessary to get on top of their game. Freire's condition is unknown (to me) and his chances in Geelong aren't great after a quiet season, but some Vuelta success would be good tonic. Forster, Bonnet and Petacchi have to be realistic about Geelong, and shouldn't hold back in Spain (assuming Petacchi even gets to take the start). Goss will probably be working for Cavendish, and anyway both he and Davis would likely have trouble focusing on the Vuelta as anything more than training. Ditto for Dean.

As for the Big Two Three, while all of them will have an eye on the worlds, I can't see Farrar and Cavendish not going all out to beat each other in Spain. It's in the DNA and the legs as well, and neither one of them wants to go into Geelong with a losing streak next to their name. Also, neither one of them has a points jersey in his closet yet... shocking considering their pedigree. These are the two most likely riders to pull out in Week Three, though with two weeks between Madrid and the WC road race, why not finish? They have nothing else to do. [Adding:] Hushovd will do his usual thing, though to win the points he'll need Cav and Farrar to let him slip from their grasp. Won't be as easy in Spain.

I can't help taking a moment to point out how Andre Greipel and Gerald Ciolek aren't here. The Gorilla is off to the Tour of Britain, conveniently nudged out of Spain and its superior Worlds training in favor of his "teammate" Cavendish... though in fairness Britain and Eneco together make up a decent plan B. Ciolek, meanwhile, needs to be here.

Group 2: The Vacation Club

Members: Koldo Fernandez, Theo Bos, Yahueni Hutarovich, Grega Bole.

Actually, Bole and Hooter could be in Geelong, don't ask me. But if they get there it'll be on microscopic squads, so let's just park them with the sprinters like Bos who have little to worry about after Madrid. And who have everything to gain from the idea that worlds sprinters should pull out in week three. Look for each of these guys to furiously retweet every message suggesting that people should get to Australia good and early.

Bole is an intriguing prospect -- he was consistently fast in Poland and got a decent result in Ouest France, so he's on top form. Bos isn't making much of an impression these days, and Hooter hangs around the top 5-10 everyday, nothing more. Koldo could easily get on a lower step in Madrid, with a few Vueltas and some decent results under his belt. Not particularly on form though.

Group 3: Philippe Gilbert

Members: Philippe Gilbert

Just sayin. He may guard his form in case the worlds looks more like a long, arid Gent-Wevelgem than whatever else. But Gilbert could be around at the end. Since he's my mortal lock to become the next world champion, a strong Vuelta is a good pathway there.

The Pick: Cavendish. I bet he and Farrar duke it out to the finish, but until Tyler comes around the Manx Missile, all bets start here.

[*Off topic: when does "Gazet van Antwerpen" translate to "Washington Post"? When google translate is involved. Try it for yourself. Hey, think this is weird? Not as weird as Sporza lifting Patrick Lefevre quotes from the Post.]

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Actually Forster isn't going to Worlds...not that its relevant because he is not even a darkhorse for Worlds.

I think it will probably go to somebody who like gilbert who is around on the finishes and can get points in other stages. Maybe not him since he will probably leave but somebody.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 25, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Forster out?

OK, fine, but that’s a surprise to me. I guess Germany have a lot of choices, despite their hatred of cycling.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 25, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually they have a pretty strong team for Worlds...

Marcus Burghardt, Bert Grabsch, André Greipel, Danilo Hondo, Christian Knees, Sebastian Lang, Tony Martin, Marcel Sieberg et Fabian Wegmann.
Forster would of actually had to show form to get into that team. Hondo is going to work his butt off for Greipel and I’m guessing Burghardt and Wegmann have a bit of a free role. They aren’t going to be driving the race by any means.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 25, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that case

maybe Hondo belongs in this preview as a dark horse. Bah!

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 25, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if Peta doesn't take the start

Hondo will be the Lampre Man. We can keep it at that.

by ursula on Aug 25, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

An American saying another country hates cycling

is a bit hypocritical no? Not that it isn’t true(although I’d say it’s more media driven hatred) but just thought I’d point that out.

"Until you shoot me off my bike I'll keep looking for a contract" - Jens!
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by Phil H. on Aug 25, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely media driven

The paths around Rheinland-Pfalz are full when the weather is good and the roads are full of fully kitted riders.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Aug 26, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see a Tour-stage in Germany next year

just to see the size of the crowds. Besides the dutch stages this year I have never seen as many (or enthusiastic) people by the road as on the stages in Germany. (This was after the fall of Ullrich too)

by Jens on Aug 26, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see the D-Tour back

but it would require love from the media so not likely. I was quite giddy about the crowds at Vattenfall.

"Until you shoot me off my bike I'll keep looking for a contract" - Jens!
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by Phil H. on Aug 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I mean, big crowds

Women’s Thuringen also had lots of spectators. I think the fan-base is still there.

by Jens on Aug 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's sad really

they would completely ignore if any Bayern player was caught for doping but when it is a cyclist is then it should be talked about more than the race itself.

"Until you shoot me off my bike I'll keep looking for a contract" - Jens!
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by Phil H. on Aug 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

May I also mention:

Big Torrr, Pippo Pozzato, JJ Haedo. The first two may be looking for their sprinting legs ahead of the WC, the latter is (not always) really fast. But if Cav and Farrar are the ones going at it, and Cav still has the upper hand, then yes you’d expect him to take the jersey.

Is there a piece on the KOM on the way?

by Triki on Aug 25, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Thor

duh! Fixing now…

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 25, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torrr, sounds even better! More godlike.

I used to be a big fan of the Racer Formerly Known as Bert! But then again, I used to believe in Santa ,Tooth Fairy and innocence of Floyd!

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by holmovka on Aug 25, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ale-Jet? Thor? Cav? Nah I'm going with GC guy this time

“And there aren’t enough uphill finishes to upend the usual order of things in this year’s race” Umm there are 6 of them(and that isn’t including the nasty uphill kicks), how many more does one need to please you sir?

"Until you shoot me off my bike I'll keep looking for a contract" - Jens!
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by Phil H. on Aug 25, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

6 < 9

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 25, 2010 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vuelta 2010 rulebook

Ceci n'est pas une signature.

by tedvdw on Aug 26, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

… sez no:

All stages, places 1 to 15: 25-20-16-14-12-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 points
Intermediate sprints: 4-2-1

Stage classification only used for time limit.

Ceci n'est pas une signature.

by tedvdw on Aug 26, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now, if 6 turned up to be 9,
I don’t mind, I don’t mind.
If all the hippies cut off their hair,
I don’t care, I don’t care.

"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia

by jsallee00 on Aug 26, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

In re: your Gazet van Antwerpen query...

…the only thing I can think of is someone suggested this as a translation for the phrase. Otherwise shit maketh no sense.

by Ed K on Aug 25, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get this statement
And there is no shortage of national federations building around the likes of Cavendish for the worlds, regardless of whatever speculation is being whipped up by IFPs.

Which countries are aiming for a sprint. Of the 9-men teams we know Australia, Kazachstan, Italy and Holland don’t want it to end in a bunch sprint. I don’t expect Russia, Switzerland to go for it either. That leaves only Spain and Belgium to help the US and Germany but I expect both countries will fancy the chances of their attackers a lot more than those of their sprinters.
Will the US and Germany really work that hard to tow Cavendish to the line?

Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"

by Lopex on Aug 26, 2010 3:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Gotta agree with ya here, Lopex.

Seems that with every team getting announced, the teams are leaning more and more away from the possibility of a sprint finish because of the hills.

by ursula on Aug 26, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

US, GB

Maybe Germany. Obviously everyone else hopes for a non-Cavendish finale.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

GB is 2 domestiques

The US will include some attackers too I reckon? That leaves how many to work for Farrar? 4-6? Add in a handful of Germans and you have about a dozen guys working for a mass sprint. They are up against the worlds best classic studs and attackers. Imagine you’ve just managed to neutralise an attack by Gilbert and than Cance goes, after that Boom and next a group of Italian and Spanish riders…

Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"

by Lopex on Aug 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baden Cooke is not at the Vuelta, but JJ Haedo is

Mørkøv replaces Baden Cooke who is injured, and JJ have been on the Vuelta team from the start.

by LittleOldLady on Aug 26, 2010 3:59 AM EDT reply actions  

That's interesting. Porte may yet make the Australian RR team...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 26, 2010 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Mörköv couldn't ride either

probably not entered on Saxo’s shortlist. Same problem as QS had with Weylandt at the TdF. How do these big pro-teams not know these things?

by Jens on Aug 26, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Article at CN says they knew, but hoped for a waiver.

I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)

by majope on Aug 26, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very likely in the current climate......

It’s two months since we had this exact case and still they don’t get that this rule is there for a reason?

Apparently, according to feltet, Kim Andersen had submitted the list before leaving and McGee was not aware of it (or what it meant)

by Jens on Aug 26, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contrarian view

i think Farrar might be better off going with the right break than waiting for the sprint. I mean, he does say he’s a classics rider, doesn’t he? I don’t know where the U.S. is going to find a team capable of controlling the race, and the other big sprinter – Cavendish – hasn’t a big team either. I can’t see Bettini running the Azurris as a sprint team. For the race to come down to a sprint, a number of people have to want it to, or the attacking riders have to be too weak to make something happen. Sprints are either tactical accidents – where the breakaways didn’t cooperate – or intended outcomes created by strong teams. I’m not really seeing the strong teams looking for a sprint in this race. Hmm, I suppose Spain might want to set up Freire, that’s one…

by Jen See on Aug 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Farrar would like to be a classician, but I am not sure he’s allowed in any breaks without scaring the shit out of his breakmates. UNLESS! A break of Farrar, Gilbert and Cunego… i.e. he and some other guys who can finish fast. That could happen.

For Tyler, I wonder if he has the confidence to make this kind of bold attack. He hasn’t had to much outside of Gent-Wevelgem. It’s a work in progress.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 26, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Oscarcito: "his chances in Geelong aren't great after a quiet season"

Isn’t that Freire’s ideal prep? Do nothing for a whole while and then kabam, rainbow jersey. Or MSR.

by tgsgirl on Aug 26, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

indeed

It’s impossible to write anything about him right now, but as you say, he probably likes it that way.

"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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