Transfers Part 2
by Frinking on Aug 30, 2010 11:25 AM EDT
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PrintOk.. I admit.. I missed it.. So here is part 2. Please add and commentate about the transfer stories and correct...
AG2R
In:
Steve Houanard < Skill
Mathieu Perget < Caisse d'Epargne
Romain Lemarchand < BigMat
Sebastien Minard < Cofidis
Michael Cherel < Francaise des Jeux
Matteo Montaguti < De Rosa-Stac Plastic
Out:
Tadelj Valjevec > Dope
Vladimir Efimkin > Personal Quits
Rene Mandri > Endura
Jose Luis Arrieta > Quits
Astana:
In:
Robert Kiserlovski < Liquigas
Tanel Kangert <
Roman Kreuziger < Liquigas
Fransesco Masciarelli < Acqua et Sapone
Evgueny Petrov < Katushya
Remy Di Gregorio < Francaise des Jeux
Simon Clarke <
Out:
Oscar Pereiro > Quits
Alberto Contador > Team Saxo
Daniel Navarro > Team Saxo
Jesus Hernandez > Team Saxo
Benjamin Noval > Team Saxo
Euskaltel
In:
Mikel Landa Meana < Orbea
Jon Izagirre Insausti < Orbea
Out:
Sergio de Lis > Quits
Benat Intxausti > Team Movistar
Aitor Hernandez >
Francaise des Jeux:
William Bonnet < Bbox
Steve Chainel < Bbox
Arnold Jeanessen < Caisse
Cedric Pineau < Roubaix-Lille Metropole
Arnoud Courteille < UC Nantes Atlantique
Mickael Delage < Omega
Remi Pauriol < Cofidis
Geoffrey Soupe <
Out:
Christophe le Mevel > Garmin??
Jussi Veikannen > Omega
Mickael Cherel > AG2R
Remy Di Gregorio > Astana
Garmin-Transistions
In
Christophe le Mevel < Francaise des Jeux??
Andrew Talansky < California Giant-Specialised??
Alex Howes < Team Holowesko Partners??
Ramanus Navardauskus < VC La Pomme??
Caleb Fairly < Holowesko??
Thor Hushovd < Cervelo Test Team
Heinrich Haussler < Cervelo Test Team
Andreas Klier < Cervelo Test Team
Roger Hammond < Cervelo Test Team
Gabriel Rasch < Cervelo Test Team
Brett Lancaster < Cervelo Test Team
Daniel Lloyd < Cervelo Test Team
Out:
Ricardo van der Velde >
Svein Tuft > Fly V Australia
Christian Meier > UnitHealthcare Presented by maxxis
Footon-Servetto > Geox
In:
Fabio Duarte < Café de Colombia - Colombia es Pasion
David Blanco <
Carlos Sastre < Cervelo
Denis Menchov < Rabobank
Dimitry Kozontschuck < Rabobank
Maurico Ardilla < Rabobank
Marko Kump < Adria Mobil
Matte Pelucchi <
Daniele Ratto < Carmiooro - NGC
Sergio Pardilla < CamiOoro
Marcel Wyss < CTT
Out:
Eros Capecchi > Liquigas
Manuel Cardoso > RadioShack
Lampre-ISD
In:
Andrey Kasechkin < Ex doper
Michele Scarponi < Androni blabla
Leonardo Bertagnolli < Androni
Luca Celli < Ceramica
Denis Kostyuk < ISD
Matteo Rabottini <
Vitaly Kondrut < ISD
Alexander Kvachuk < ISD
Przemmyslaw Niemiec < Miche
Out:
Liquigas
In:
Damiano Caruso < De Rosa
Juraj Sagan (brother) <
Eros Capecchi < Footon-Servetto
Paolo Borghini Longho < ISD
Cristiano Salerno < De Rosa
Alan Maragoni <
Cameron Wurf <
Out:
Frederik Willems > Omega
Robert Kiserlovski> Astana
Fransesco Chicchi > Quick - Step
Alexander Kuchinsky > Katushya
Manuel Quinziato > BMC
Ivan Santamorito < BMC
Roman Kreuziger > Astana
Brian Vandborg < Saxo
Daniele Bennati < Team Luxemburg
Omega Pharma
In:
Andre Greipel < Team HTC
Frederik Willems < Liguigas
Jurgen van de Walle < Quick -Step
Jussi Veikannen < Francaise des Jeux
Klaas Lodewijck < Topsport
Sven Vandousselare < Jong Vlaanderen
Jens Debusschere < PWS Eijssen Cycling Team
Gert Dockx < Team HTC
David Boucher < Landbouwkrediet
Vincent Reynes < Team HTC
Bart de Clerq < Davo-Lotto
Maarten Neyens < Topsport Vlaanderen
Out:
Greg van Avermaet > BMC
Mickael Delage > Francaise des Jeux
Glenn D'Hollander > Quits
Leif Hoste > Katushya
Dani Moreno > Katushya
Michel Elijzen >
Gerben Lowik >
Quick-Step
In:
Fransesco Chicchi < Liquigas
Marc de Maar < United Healthcare
Guillaume van Keirsbulck < Beveren 2000
Jan Tratnik < Zheroquardo
Julien Vermote < Beveren-2000
Frèdèrique Robert < PWS-Eijssen Cycling Team
Andy Cappelle < Veranda-Willems
Niki Terpstra < Milram
Rob Goris <????
Kristoff Vandewalle <
Out:
Stijn Devolder > VacansOleil
Jurgen van de Walle > Omega
Carlos Barredo > Rabobank??
Branislau Samailov > Movistar
Mauro Facci > Ceramica Flaminia
Rabobank:
In:
Coen Vemelfoort < Rabo CT
Tom Jelte Slagter < Rabo CT
Matti Breschel < Team Saxo
Carlos Barredo < Quick -Step??
Luis Leon Sanchez < Caisse d'Epargne/Team Mobistar
Maarten Wynants < Quick-Step
Theo Bos < Rabobank
Out:
Koos Moerenhout > Quits
Denis Menchov > Geox
Nick Nuyens >
Dimitry Kozontschuck > Geox
Maurico Ardilla > Geox
Joost Posthuma > Team Luxemburg
Tom Stamsnijders > Team Luxemburg
Kai Reus > Quits
Sky:
In:
Out:
Team HTC:
In:
John Degenkolb < Thüringer Energie Team
Out:
Andre Greipel > Omega
Gert Dockx > Omega
Vincent Reynes > Omega
Adam Hansen > Omega
Maxime Monfort > Team Luxemburg
Team Katushya:
In:
Giampola Caruso < Ceramica
Vladimir Gusev <
Alexander Kuchinsky < Liquigas
Yuriy Trofimov < Bbox
Leif Hoste < Omega
Daniel Moreno < Omega
Out
Evgueny Petrov > Astana
Robbie McEwen > Pegasus
Team Milram
In:
Out:
Servais Knaven > Quits
Roger Kluge > Skill-Shimano
Robert Forster > United Healthcare
Frohlinger > Skill-Shimano
Niki Terptra > Quick-Step
Linus Gerdemann > Team Luxemburg
Fabian Wegmann > Team Luxemburg
Team Movistar
In:
Branislau Samailau < Quick-Step
Michael Kwiatowski <
Jose Ventoso < CamiroOro????
Daniel Diaz < Footon
Ignates Konovalovas < Cervelo
Luciano Pagliarini < Scott
Xavier Tondo < Cervelo Test Team
Benat Intxausti < Euskaltel
Out:
Cristophe Moreau > Quits
Mathieu Perget > AG2R
Arnold Jeanessen > Francaise des Jeux
Arnaud Coyot > Saur-Sojasun
Mathieu Drujon > Big Mat
Luis Leon Sanchez > Rabobank
Team RadioShack
In:
Tailor Phinney < Trek-Livestrong???
Jesse Sergent < Trek-Livestrong
Michael Kwiatkowski < Caja Rural Continental Squad
Manuel Cardoso < Footon
Out:
Fuyu Li > Dopage
Saxo Bank:
In:
Alberto Contador < Team Saxo
Daniel Navarro < Team Saxo
Jesus Hernandez < Team Saxo
Benjamin Noval < Team Saxo
Brian Vandborg < Liquigas
David Tanner < Fly V Australia
Out:
Frank Schleck > Team Luxemburg
Andy Schleck > Team Luxemburg
Stuart O'Grady > Team Luxemburg
Jakob Fuglsang > Team Luxemburg
Matti Breschel > Rabobank
Anders Lund > Team Luxemburg
Dominic Klemme > Team Luxemburg
Jens Voigt > Team Luxemburg
Team Luxemburg
In:
Frank Schleck < Team Luxemburg
Andy Schleck < Team Luxemburg
Stuart O'Grady < Team Luxemburg
Maxime Montfort < Team HTC
Jakob Fuglsang < Saxo
Jens Voigt < Saxo
Daniele Bennati < Liquigas
Brice Feillu < Vacansoleil
Joost Posthuma < Rabobank
Tom Stamsnijder < Rabobank
Robert Wagner < Skill-Shimano
Anders Lund < Saxo?
Laurent Didier < Saxo?
Special Thanks to Vlaanderen
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Cervelo Test Team
In:
Out:
Carlos Sastre > Geox
Thor Hushovd > Garmin
Theo Bos > Rabobank
Roger Hammond > Garmin
Andreas Klier > Garmin
Heinrich Hausler > Garmin
Brett Lancaster > Garmin
Daniel Lloyd > Garmin
Gabriel Rasch > Garmin
Xavier Tondo > Team Movistar
Oscar Pujol > Team Movistar
Davide Appollonio >
Joao Correia >
Philip Deignan >
Stefan Denifl >
Volodymir Gustov >
Edward King >
Ignates Konovalovas > Movistar
Joaquin Novoa >
Daniel Teklehaimanot >
Alexander Wetterhall >
Marcel Wyss > Geoz
Bbox - BouguesTelecom
In:
Out:
William Bonnet > La Française des Jeux
Steve Chainel > La Française des Jeux
Yury Trofimov > Team Katusha
Johan Tschopp > BMC
BMC
in:
Johan Tschopp < Bbox
Yannick Eyssen <
Greg van Avermaet < Omega
Manuel Quinziatio < Liquigas
Ivan Santaromita < Liquigas
Out:
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The very nice Wielerland.nl transfer overview
Has Alex-Dowsett coming over from the Trek-Livestrong team.
All transfers can be found here
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
From Alex's twitter...
As much as I’d like to spill, nothing is certain for next year yet, as soon as I know, you’ll all know. 12:10 PM Aug 23rd via ÜberTwitter
http://twitter.com/alexdowsett
I just noticed that.
Surprising for a team with a troubled season. I would assume their big names were signed for at least a year, so I wouldn’t expect a ton of activity. But they have plenty of plugs to fill
Also, Sky, please resign Russell Downing and let him into some bigger races this year.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 12, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If they don't re-sign Russ
they’re fools. But as for bigger races, well. I thought they might ride for him & not Henderson in the ToB but no.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Were i him, I'd think twice I suspect..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Because I'd ream of riding more big races and not being Plan D
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thanks for this
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Theo Bos
You missed him on CTT. Probably going to Rabobank if what I read in the paper is right (like that’ll ever happen…).
Jaoa Correia will retire I guess. It was great of CTT to give him a chance (promising results at youth level, quit cycling later, grew very fat, started to work as a representative for a cycling firm and got into shape again). His results this year were mediocre at best so I think it is game over there. His story is one of the reasons I’ll miss the Cervelo team!
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
He rode for US teams for a year or two before CTT picked him up. He could go back to that...
And he was a helper through and through. So I don’t think pointing to his CQ Ranking is really fair. His job wasn’t results. He was job to help others.
(I don’t know if he was good at that job or not.)
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 30, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to tell indeed
CQ is just an indication. The amount of DNS’s and DNF’s were not a good sign imho. But I could of course be wrong. Still, at 35 there must be younger domestiques on the market…
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
Apparently Huzarski isn't going to Lampre...CCC is in negotiations with him, Niemic from Miche and Golas from Vacansoleil
They are actually doing some good things and applying for the passport program and signed Rutkiewicz too
Also the other 2 Masciarelli bros. from Acqua e Sapone are going to be leaving the team at the end of the year and joining a “big european team” but its probably going to be Astana from what I have seen.
J-Rod is trying to get his training partner from Caisse, Alberto Losado, to Katusha…Landbouwkrediet signed 2 Lithuanians, Aidis Kruopis and Edijidius Juodvalskis and Amorison might be leaving to Verandas Willems who are looking to go Pro. Conti.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Just one thing..
AAMOOORISSOON. Which team doesn’t want such a King! for a new Pro. Conti
And you could be right about the Masciarelli’s.. Altho their results are not that hot
Big news.
Especially for Farrar…
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
Yeah...I still don't know what to think of this.
I mean come TdF time what the hell is going to happen.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hushovd says he went to Garmin because they could give him the best support in the classics.
Maybe that’s the tradeoff: Hushovd #1 for classics, Farrar #1 for Tour? Don’t know, though. Thor was still very competitive for green this year, and won it just a year ago. But almost inconceivable to think of Farrar not being the top sprinter for the Tour.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
In the video interview from the same site
he says that he will be the main man “in the big races” and “we’ll see about the sprints” . Then when asked specifically about sprints he says he hasn’t signed to be a leadout-man and then he repeats the phrase " I’m going to be the main man in the big races and that’s what’s most important for me"
So I think the tradeoff you mention is there
Thanks!
When is Google Translate going to work on audio, anyway?
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
That site usually transcribes most of the quotes from the video up top
but in this case the most telling is how you can see Thor mumbling and looking in all directions but the interviewer when asked about the sprints.
Garmin looking good for Classics next year
Thor, Maaskaant, Van Summeren, Farrar, Millar
If they also get Klier and Hammond, that is one hell of a squad for April.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Yeaaah, about Farrar. I don't think he will be riding Roubaix next year.
If the rumors are true, then I can see the team being Hushovd, Hammond, Klier, Lancaster, Hunt, Maaskant, Van Summeren and Millar. Farrar can have the Scheldeprijs and G-W but Hushovd might demand sole leadership for MSR, De Ronde and Roubaix.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Farrar for Roubaix, no. He can do RVV and win the sprint after the leaders.
And I think Thor has the palmares to demand sole leadership.
P-R okay
but if they don’t use Farrar in De Ronde they are certifiable. He was 5:th this year for chrissakes. Thor was 57:th and DNF in 2009.
He's never going to win it though. He can make it over the hills to finish first behind the main contenders.
But it’ll always be behind the main contenders.
I don't buy that
If you are on a team like he will be and you get a year that gets tactical, leaders staring each other down he could totally win it. Plus I think he is getting stronger.
Do you think Thor can win RVV though?
2004: 38th
2005: 31st
2006: 14th
2007: 60th
2008: 27th
2009: DNF (sprinting for 3rd)
2010: 57th
In RVV, I like my odds much better with Farrar. Sure, if Thor focused solely on RVV, he can maybe do better than his results, but he is always going to put all of his efforts into Roubaix.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
So what makes Farrar a better pick?
Your going to have to wait for a bunch sprint for him to be successful and even then it is a crapshoot if you have EBH or whoever else in there. Farrar should learn how to attack first before we start tipping him for RVV.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
But can't the exact same thing be said about Thor?
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 30, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True but Thor has followed the lead groups and followed key moves before
just his bike handling skills have failed him. He has just never had much luck or good fortune at RVV
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
But we know Thor can ride the sprint classics, we know he can climb fairly well, and we know he can handle the cobbles.
The fact that he doesn’t rule RVV is a bit odd.
Listen to his interviews
He doesn’t give a shit about RVV, his focus is 99% Roubaix and i do’t believe he will approach Flanders as anything other than warmup until he has won P-R.
No, I don't think Thor is the man for RVV. But neither is Tyler, as far as I can see.
He’s never battled for the hills yet.
You don't put stock into last year's fifth place?
I agree, that most years Tyler (and thor) will be battling for scraps in RVV, but I still think Tyler is the better option.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
No, I don't. Because he never featured in the race.
He never made the race, he never attacked. He survived and won the bunch sprint, and I don’t remember the last time the race was won in the bunch sprint. Someone is always going to attack and break the bunch up. I put more stock into Millar’s 2010 performance than I do Tyler’s (not that Millar is ever going to win it, imho).
Not that I think arrar isn’t good (he is), or that his Dutch isn’t absolutely adorable (it is), but I don’t think RVV is the race for him. Not on the basis of what he’s shown so far.
Mario Cipollini once won a bunch sprint in RVV (2002), about 2'35 back of the winner...
He also was competitive in G-W . Seems similar to Farrar.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair...
He DNFed after crashing in the sprint for third place
by quarantanamo on Aug 30, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay but your taking that DNF out of context because he was in the sprint for 3rd but was crashed into the barriers.
Yeah that is racing but at worst he would have been around 5th or 6th, just like Farrar. So if he has a proper build-up and doesn’t have problems again like this year, I can see it as him as leader and Farrar as the dark hose
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, I forgot
but the fact remains that as long as he hasn’t won P-R he is always going into RVV halfheartedly. You don’t win RVV halfheartedly.
Though you don't have to be the strongest on the day to win RVV, sometimes just the luckiest and have the best tactics
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really know why I'm arguing this
because I don’t believe in the basic premise that you need (or should have) 1 outright leader in RVV or P-R. Hushovd, Farrar, Maaskant could very well go into the race with equal status.
The one I think has most issues with this concept is Thor who is brought up as a sprinter where the hierarchy matters more, and also he’s from my westerly neighbor-country “The Home of the Daft”
Well Maaskant is the weak link there btw...Hasn't done much since '08.
Hushovd and Haussler worked well together so if he and Farrar can do the same thing then kudos but they might be too similar to be a good 1-2 punch in the classics.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He sorta got run over by his own teamcar this year.
That can’t help.
Also:
5/04/2009 1.PT1 [Bel] 4 Ronde van Vlaanderen
Right, the "400 year night" is over
(thank you wikipedia for teaching me what 12 years in school could not)
Hushovd and Haussler shared races just fine
Hushovd was the captain. Haussler was the wild card with a free hand. And both ended up with great results.
It’s not like Farrar has to kill himself for Hushovd. Play the 1-2 punch
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 30, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Help!
Quote from Thor:
Får med meg 6 andre fra Cervélo Test Team
Six others from Cervelo coming with him?
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
It is changed now
But to “many”.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 30, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That is what it means yes
but where is it from? The Figurehead’s link only says “I get to take many supportriders I have on Cervélo with me”
The statement Thor sent to his fanpage
Varm dag igjen, gjør løpet mer slitsomt! Satt greit med frem til siste fjell, så tok jeg det med ro i bussen. Ny hard dag i morra! Vil samtidig bekrefte at jeg nå har signert for Garmin. Det laget jeg tror kan gi meg best støtte under klassikerene. Får med meg 6 andre fra Cervélo Test Team. Glad for avgjørelsen ser frem til å sykle på kanskje det beste laget neste år…
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
Google Translate gives:
Warm days ahead, make the course more tiring! Set smoothly with up to the mountains, so I took it easy in the bus. New hard day tomorrow! Will also confirm that I have now signed for Garmin. The team I think can give me the best support during the classics. Get me six others from the Cervélo Test Team. Glad decision look forward to cycling on perhaps the best team next year …
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
If he gets 6 others then the team will be totally filled up for next year along with Le Mevel and 4 neo-pro's.
And if CQ has it right, the following wouldn’t be coming back: Cozza, Hunter, Meier, Cam Meyer, Pate, Peterson, Tuft and Wilson.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well his two year neo-pro contract is up and I am just going by what the Hushovd statement said
Because I am having a hard time seeing them giving up him, Pate and Tuft.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ricardo Van der Velde is't coming back for sure--he said so on Twitter.
And Trent Lowe signed with Pegasus.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
So what do we think this tweet from van der Velde means?
Some ‘people’ should be treaten beter than they do before they start a ‘thing’ togheter! At least have faith in what you once believed in
He got cut weeks ago--tweeted about it in mid-August
so he may be upset on someone else’s behalf?
Officially looking for a new team!
4:50 PM Aug 15th via UberTwitter
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
Pretty sure it's about himself
(and maybe someone else in the same position as himself?)
Hard to tell if it was deserved or not. He’s had a shocker of a season results-wise and he has DNFd a lot too. Unless he has a very valid reason it’s hard to see from the outside why he should be assured of contract for next year but granted, there is a lot you can’t tell from the outside. He might have a legitimate gripe.
So has Lowe, although his health has been the cause.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Then I wonder what sparked it now?
He didn’t seem terribly happy back when he first found out he wasn’t coming back, but he also tweeted some nice stuff about the team.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
maybe he could handle just him leaving
but he’s peeved by the larger firings/non-renewals that are necessary to accomodate the large number of CTT riders.
That's quite a list if true
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 30, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
There was also a report the other day that the Le Mevel contract hadn't been signed yet
VeloNation, but they aren’t always on the money:
right now, that spot is tentatively in the hands of FdJ’s Christophe le Mevel, who was supposed to have signed already, but hasn’t
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
I doubt they'd sign him
knowing they have such little space
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
It was supposedly done a while ago, so goes the rumors, and was supposed to be the first signing they had
but maybe that never happened.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the neo-pros had been put on hold?
(as well as Le Mevel)
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Gabriel Rasch is one of them
I’m pretty sure of it, Hushovd said the other day that he really wanted to take Rasch with him. OK, that was after a direct question about Gabriel, but still.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 30, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Haussler is not
Thor keeps saying “supportriders” (hjelperyttere) about the ones he “brings with him” and I doubt he would put HH in that category?
I agree
And it’s too bad that they add Johan Kaggestad’s speculations to the article.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 30, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, HH was trying to lead Thor out in the 2009 MSR...
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
And that's where HH earned his right not to be a support rider
Haussler has said half the reason he started giving a shit is the chance to work for riders like Hushovd. Little did he know that once he started giving a shit that he would be too good to be a support rider.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to go with the first 4, Lloyd and Rollin...maybe Reimer though
I’m going off startlists from the classics
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Lancaster definitely
Hunt and Hammond are solid but both getting up there. Garmin dropping lots of young talent to take on a ton of oldies? And Thor is only signed for one year…..
That Velonation article up top mentioned something about some of the neo-pros who signed
might be bumped down to the amateur team for next year though I don’t know if that is going to happen because then another team might try to snap them up. I have a feeling that there won’t be 6 guys going…and I didn’t say Lancaster because of Fly-V/Pegasus.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing new there.
30 riders means at least 2 neo-pros, but that’s the way the rules have been for at least a few years.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
Right, but it means probably at least 1 of the Holewskos should go Garmin
Joe Lindsey has a good rundown
Or Navardauskas, who has had amazing results, and both the Holowesko's are shafted
though I think Fairly is probably safe since that signing was announced in the press, unlike Howes.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not rocket science--it's simple arithmetic.
CQ has the best rundown there, with lists of who is currently under contract at Garmin and whose contract expires this year. But I haven’t attempted to verify their info, so I can’t swear by it.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
Question - Are Garmin and Cervelo
officially “merging”, or is cervelo “closing down” and going across as a sponsor? Haven’t seen anything that tells me one way or the other for sure (but have been on limited internet access since the news broke). It would certainly be the cheapest way out of the gig for cervelo to merge – no redundancies etc.
Only ask (and I accept I could be talking out of the wrong hole here) but if they are merging then what we call in UK the TUPE regulations may apply (UK name for a EC wide directive and similar laws apply in switzerland also) and it could end up being a case of having to take certain riders want them or not, and certain garmen would end up having to make way for some cervelo riders.
Closing down I assume
Legally that is the only option that makes sense. Judging by the reactions from Deignan for instance , I think it’s safe to assume they close down the company behind CTT.
All things being equal
One would have to give the Tour nod to the stage and Maillot Vert winner and perennial contender.
This is one for the lower levels which might interest no one but me.
But Jasper Stuyven has signed for PWS Eijssen.
Seems like that is a good progression for him
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Fabian. Please stay, or go to a team I like.
I’d absolutely hate it if he ended up at HTC, the Shack, BMC or Sky. Gah!
I'm pulling for Team Lux, so he gets to stay with the Schlecks, Jens!, and Stuey
and whoever else they’re bringing with them.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
I don't get why Fabian would want to go with the Schlecks or stay with Riis
He has to be a bit tired of playing the domestique roll every July. Other than prologues and TTs, he never really gets to go for stage wins or ride for himself . I would love to see him go to a team with no real GC threat, so Fabian can unleash his powers throughout the tour, not just the opening stage and final time trial.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Had Sunderland stayed with Sky
I would have put every penny I owned that he would end up there but now I don’t know. I think FC is pretty appreciative of the professional support at Saxo and won’t go unless he knows the new team is on the same level, not just in terms of riders.
Eh?
They always spend energy in order to defend his inevitable yellow jersey rather than just giving it away.
exactly. works best for both parties if the Schlecks and Fabian stay divorced in my opinion
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
I was just replying to this bit:
Other than prologues and TTs, he never really gets to go for stage wins or ride for himself
It’s not like he’s being full on domestique in the first week. Just after he loses the yellow jersey.
It's a good point
but I like the marriage anyway… bah divorse here.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
did you miss the 2007 tdf and cance's romp in the 1st week? the win in compiegne? another late attack a few stages later also?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Yes, and I want to see that every year
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
I think he's just as likely doing it for personal fulfillment
I think he has an unually finely tuned sense of his own potential. I think he’s incredibly hungry for anything he decides really can win, but he’s totally uninterested in the ones that he can’t reasonably win. Secondly, he’s very into the give-and-take; he actually takes pride in being a superdomestique for those who will return the favor on “his” days and stages. Whether he forsees that sort of rapport and engagement with the new guys can’t be known, of course.
I'm another vote for Team Lux
Like others have mentioned (esp. Seahorse) Fabian working for Contador just doesn’t sit well with me. Not sure why, but there it is.
I think BMC would be a good option
Classics support and he could do his usual at the tour.
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Aug 31, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree and I'm a fan of both..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Let's take up a collection, and he can be the headliner for Team Podium Cafe.
I mean, we already have jerseys and everything.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
And support?
I know I would probably not make it through Arenberg in the front group, Drew would just switch into crossmode and go off-road at the first sight of mud, Chris and Mr Van P won’t make it past the first frites and mayo stand by the roadside, crashdan will be otherwise engaged, tedvdw and Lopex will stop for cakes, and the list goes on…
This leaves the female contingent and let’s face it, as strong as it is there is a limit to how useful they will be jockeying for position behind him to get the best view of his rear end.
by Jens on Sep 2, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't be silly. Some of us will be waiting patiently at the finish line
with a massage table and bottle of oil.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
last i checked
frank wouldn’t make it through their either, so you’d be a perfect replacement…heck, probably even better assuming you could start the next day!
for sure we are heavier than fat schleck
ergo…built for the cobbles.
If I win the lottery this weekend I will donate 3 million to chris to sign Fabian.
"Bah Gerrans"
Added
Jess Sergent to RadioShack..
Oscar Pujol to Movistar??
What to do with Cunego. Geox? Really.. Why leave Lampre.. He hans’t got riders like Menchov for him..
Cunego signed on with Lampre again, 2 years
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 30, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, this is the last year
that I’m going to put him on my VDS. I had him last year and he scored well throughout the season. This year, he’s not done well.
Of course, I’ll change my mind again if he wins Lombardia!
Two more too Movistar: Daniel Diaz and Luciano Pagliarini
Diaz is a stagiaire at Footon now and has had decent results…Pagliarini was part of the failed Teltek H20 team and then went back to Brazil to join the Scott team that ended up not paying their riders so its good he is getting back to Europe
Also Vannieuwkerke, the sporza announcer among other things, mentioned something about Weylandt going to Rabobank which might make sense if Nuyens was headed for Quick Step…one underachieving rider for another with both being pretty damn good when they show up.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Also, Nico Eeckhout might be retiring at the end of the year
from when he totally wrecked his back in a fall at GP Cerami and then proceeded to start 2 races after that. He fractured some vertebrae and was on the mend and has been back racing but has been in pain. If this ends up being true, expect a long post about him from me…one of the last of a dying breed.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 31, 2010 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Already looking forward to it!
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
Brett Lancaster has said he has a new contract to the end of 2012,
but he hasn’t yet said with whom. Do you think it’s likely he’s gone with Thor?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That was my feeling too.. although I know Porte is keen to work with him too...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What would Richie Porte want with a leadout man?
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 31, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not about lead-out men, it's about comfort...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think they are called baby sitters
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is, Porte is not even that young
He’s 25. He’s older than Andy Schleck.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 31, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
well played
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 31, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is, Porte is much further from home than Andy
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Lancaster can't make a living as a good buddy though
To get new good contracts he has to prove himself valuable in his field of expertise. Porte is not (yet?) a big enough star to ensure golden contracts for an entourage.
I have no idea... I'd like him to go to Saxo, but so long as he's okay, that's the main thing..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Not much use to each other on the road are they?
Lancaster a sprint train-man / Porte GC. Maybe on a personal level…. but not much compatibility riding-wise.
Lancaster was very friendly to Porte when he was making the hop over to Italy last year
and Lancaster invited him to his house in dinner and the was a sort of mentor thing going on there and was able to help with some of the hard things. I think the reason that he would want to work with him is to have a good personal friend that might make him have a more comfortable environment. If anything, Lancaster can get a domestique for him in some races…just sayin.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 31, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions
That's even more the case with Stuey leaving...
Porte acknowledges that’s a big loss to him personally.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Riis definitely has some work to do
He has lost a good chunk of the core of his team. He still has plenty of great riders, but he needs to rebuilt the center with experienced riders to support Contador and his other developing talents.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 31, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You prefer *Lotto over QS?
Is it possible to be a belgian and like both or is it a Real vs. Barcelona thing?
I like both. I like certain riders more than certain teams, honestly. Though I hate it if my loved riders are on teams I hate.
Like Ben Hermans at RadioShack.
Seriously though, how could I not be a fan of Gilbert?
And for all the crap they get, Lotto seems to be better at team management and stuff than Quick-Step lately. If QST had bought Ricco my fandom would’ve gotten a serious dent.
Phinney to BMC?
Third-hand rumor here—Bici is reporting that cyclismag sez Taylor Phinney is close to a deal with BMC, not Radio Shack as expected. Nothing signed yet, nothing official.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
well... isn't that... interesting
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
to say the least
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What are RadioShack's rights with regards to Trek-Livestrong riders?
I remember reading that they had some contractual rights to the TL riders.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They do have first refusal rights, at least according to CN
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Aug 31, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
HEre
Also at Velonation
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Wow. I was not expecting Haussler to make the jump.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
It will be nice to see Garmin-Cervelo (Team GC) race to win every spring classic.
Why would they all have to be leaders at only the big races? Why should a few chosen riders spread themselves out so thinly for the whole classics season. Give them all different targets and begin the assault on the classics. If they all stay healthy they can have at least three riders ready to win at RVV and PR.
Who said they were going to do that?
I really don’t think the spring is going to be a problem for team harmony.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 1, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll assume that you are talking about
…all have to be the leaders at only the big races.
Up thread the conversation was trying to figure out how Thor and Tyler were going to survive on the same team. Now they have at least five guys who could be leaders on different teams for the big races, I think they all know enough that they increase their own chances of winning if they are riding on the strongest team.
Haussler Quote
"There are no problems expected with Tyler, not at all. He’s an easy guy to get along with. At this stage in my life, I realise that I’m not really one for the sprints. I might go for the green jersey at the Tour, but the classics are really my main goal."
He’s saying a lot in not a lot of words.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 1, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Tyler lives in Belgium for other reasons than he wants to be a sprinter.
He may have made a mistake if he assumes Tyler is a sprinter first. But at the same time Tyler has a tattoo on his forearm written in Sanskrit, “May all be happy” is the translation I’m fairly sure. So he is probably accurate that Tyler is easy to get along with.
My guess is that Thor will be the only one guaranteed leadership for PR while the rest will have the opportunity to earn their leadership through performance and other factors. Hopefully no one ends up feeling like they got screwed.
Wasn't Tyler Farrar's breakout season largely due to realizing he is more a sprinter than a classics man?
I think he’s a great prospect for the classics too, but I think his #1 focus should be sprinting
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 1, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
"I might go for the green jersey" could be a problem.
Farrar might be easy to get along with, but I don’t think he’d shrug at being challenged for his Tour spot.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
He may not even make the team ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
you may be right
If Garmin make the green jersey a goal, where does Tyler fit in with the TdF team? Unlike the classics where you can have multiple leaders, the green jersey has to have a singular leader. Tyler can’t be stealing points from Thor or HH by finishing ahead of them in a sprint.
Garmin is in a tough spot now with their TdF team. If they keep focusing on sprint wins, and as long as Cav is racing, it’s going to be hard for Garmin to ever win a stage. And with just 5-10th place GC talent, they are never going to climb for a stage win. Their only hope for a stage win is to race in breaks, but they don’t really do that anymore because of Tyler and the team wants to pull everything back for a bunch sprint finish they haven’t proven they can win.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
I suspect that Farrar will end up on a European team sooner rather than later...
Garmin is suddenly a much stronger team, but some of the casualties will be unexpected.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Do you think that it's a better fit for HH than Tyler.
There is talk of another Aussie organization going for ProTour next year, maybe Tyler fits better there for 2012 despite the fact that the contract for HH may be for only one year and definitely just one for Thor.
Resistance is futile, drink the kool-aid.
I hate HH being at Garmin... and Lancaster, but they have jobs, so that's excellent...
At this rate, with the Meyers and Bobridge etc., perhaps it will become the de facto Australian team anyway…although until recently that honour would have gone to HTC.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'm sorry, what makes Hushovd and HH better green jersey competitors than Farrar long term?
I think Garmin needs more discipline and experience in the final KM. I think Farrar is plenty fast enough to win TdF stages and the green jersey one day.
Sure, Cavendish is faster. But faster doesn’t win every time.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we'll have to wait and see, but it's going to be difficult dealing with so many talented riders...
Garmin sure is lucky that Cervelo folded. I think Thor will do a Stuey at Garmin and become more of a Classics man and some time sprinter..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I see this also.
I see Thor next year focusing in the classics, just as he says he will, and then in next years tour guiding Tyler into the Green Jersey.
This makes total sense.
I love it when i make sense...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Garmin still need that elusive first TdF stage win.
If HH or Thor get it first it will be cool for the organization, I don’t think there is a lot of ego on Garmin today, we’ll see if that remains the case next year.
I can't wait for that one
If he gets through passport control
I think getting into Lampre is a bit like traveling within the EU
Nobody really wants to look at your passport.
would whatshername pay Rasmussen's salary if he went to Lampre?
I’m amazed they haven’t signed him, actually…
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
That's my recollection
She will pay his wage regardless of where he goes. Though I have a hunch that it was only for 6 months. And I have to say that it’s amusing that the press release makes a point about Rasmussen riding in black, even if they mean black as in “black sheep”.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 3, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hoping to make you feel better
I suggest that we should like Rabo despite any negative press in the recent years, if nothing else, because they have been a sponsor for so long that not only tries hard to perennially field good men’s teams, but also funds a female team and a feeder team.
How about that for a run-on sentence?
And an off-road team too. And a hockey team. And an equestrian team. And some skaters too, I think.
That bank likes sports.
No female team I'm afraid
THey do sponsor the national cycling federation. As such, on the WC the women ride with Rabo sponsoring.
Plus, it’s a coöperative bank, not in it for the money…
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
I think they sponsor a development squad somewhere.
But I’m not sure on the details (or the truth of that statement, for that matter).
Michael Kwiatkowski is actually headed to the Shack and not Movistar now
according to bici.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Tom Stamsnijder is leaving Rabo for unknown pastures.
Hello people! Got some news, i will not be riding in rabobank-jersey next year! I had 2 great years at rabo but its time for something new
Awww...
but he and Lars were such cute teammates.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
And yet he appears to be made redundant...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
'have been'... bugger
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Four staying put at Katusha
Team Katusha has renewed four cyclists, Mikhail Ignatyev, Pavel Brutt, Nikolai Trusov and Denis Galimzyanov, for one more season until the end of 2011.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
According to the WM of this month
De Gendt to Vacansoleil
Danilo di Luca to Farnese Vini – McCipollini (starting 22 July)
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
Di Luca:
That would avoid difficulties with him getting into Protour races, but could potentially keep Visconti out of the Giro again.
Actually that's bollocks about the Protour races,
But Lampre (-ISD) could still ride races that wouldn’t take Di Luca.
well that took a while to become official
it seemed like they had that wrapped up a month ago only for it to get dicey again. Frinking will be relieved.
Yeah, FdJ was tired of waiting for the promise to work out and didn't want him back
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Navardauskus will most likely not be at Garmin next year; Talansky probably will be.
The U-23 team is going continental so their might be some funny moves going on with that like guys being sent down if they plan on signing any more riders.
Mauro Facci should be going to Ceramica Flaminia from Quick Step….Also, Bouygues Telecom isn’t out of the woods yet in regards to seeking a sponsor. Fedrigo is still unhappy so he is looking to jump ship but that isn’t new.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
David Tanner from Fly V Australia to Saxo.
Says Cyclismastu.
They’ve also got Paxti Vila, Claudio Corioni and Giuseppe De Maria at Ceramica Flaminia.
Thor and Barbie Barbie without a choice?
According to an interview in a Belgian newspaper, when Cervélo folded Lefèvre informed about possibly buying Haussler or Hushovd (Tombo and Thor in one team would’ve kicked ass), but, he says, “for a reason I don’t understand they were still under contract and HAD TO go along to Garmin.”
That makes a sick sort of sense...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Or convenient excuse?
“I would love to sign on as loyal understudy to Boonen but I have this paper that says I HAVE to go to another team you see. Otherwise I would totally sign with you.”
Or Lefevre is full of shit?
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 7, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Gah. Been trying to figure out what the UCI rules say.
On the one hand, this is what it says in the Pro Conti section of the rules:
1. The Rider may terminate the present contract, without notice nor liability:
…
c) if the Employer or a principal partner withdraws from the professional continental team and the continuity of the professional continental team is not guaranteed or else if the professional continental team announces its dissolution, the winding up of its activities or its inability to meet its commitments; should the announcement be made for a given date, the Rider shall continue to perform the contract until that date.
BUT, there is this about mergers in the ProTour section…then again, since it’s in the PT section shouldn’t it apply just to the PT riders?
In no case may a rider move to another team before the expiry of the term with his current paying agent as stipulated in the contract – even if that contract does not run its full term – unless he has prior authorisation from the president of the UCI ProTour council.
In the case of a merger between UCI ProTeams or between a UCI ProTeam and a professional continental team, the present provision shall apply to riders of the merged entity who have changed paying agent.
They don’t cover PT/ProConti mergers in the ProConti contract section, at least that I can find. But the UCI stuff gives me headaches if I stare at it too long.
The Muur is my bitch--Albertina
Or just general labour law?
Wasn’t that suggested earlier around here, with the caveat that it would probably be more complicated than that because of CTT being Swiss-registered?
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
If any of that is to be viewed as having any substance though
then the future of Davide Appollonio will be relevant – Cervelo neo pro with a two year contract. Whither?
Personal contract makes sense
they have to promote Cervelo next year, and that leaves their hands completely tied.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
According to Wielerland.nl
Svein Tuft has signed for Fly V Australia, while Christian Meier is downgrading to UnitedHealthcare Presented by Maxxis. So far, Fly V’s excellent superb signings are fairly unimpressive. Like Sky last year.
Don't you think that might be because achieving their dreams by 2011 wasn't going to happen?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Can't blame them for trying...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
They didn't resign him if that's anything to go by...
They still have to announce 10 more signings because they are only at 6 riders so far
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sergio Pardilla shall be going to Movistar from CamiOoro...He was only a little under the level of Sella and Ricco at Tour of Austria this year
hopefully without the products
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Kai Reus will perhaps quit racing
Says CN. Sad, but understandable given all the troubles.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
He'll take a break next season
Doesn’t know if he’ll be back. Great video over at rabosport.nl with him talking about it. It’s in Dutch but you’ll understand his mood anyway.
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
Good luck to the lad, whatever he does.
It was a real privilege to be in Gateshead last year to see him win his ToB stage, just – just – ahead of the peloton after a somewhat improbable escape along the coast road.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Alan Maragoni and Cameron Wurf to Liquigas, so says Gazzetta della Sporta
Marcel Wyss to Geox
Konovalovas to Movistar
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Millar extends one more year at Garmin.
Source: VeloNation.
I've nothing against Zabriskie, but to be honest, I think I'm a little bit better looking--Filippo Pozzato
Baden Cooke is staying at Saxo for another year...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Robbie McEwen confirmed to Pegasus. (thanks to tgsgirl for posting the news in the live thread)
I've seen more and more riders shaving their arms these days. I don't know why, really, I'm not tempted--the legs are already too much. It seems to come from Australia. All the Australians have shaved arms.--Matti Breschel, Oct. Cycle Sport
funny CN Headline: McEwen signs with Australian super team
“super” team? Who else do they have?
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Who else?
Sky’s PR guy by the sounds of it.
by Jens on Sep 9, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Tuft
That’s about it.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 9, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I know of at least one more Aussie Pro-Tour rider who will most likely be joining the team, presumably they are talking to many more riders though as they don’t have anywhere near enough yet….
You're not going to get a license with an aging Robbie Mac and whatever other pro you can get.
Especially because it won’t be Cuddles.
They are pretty realistic, if they miss out for 2011 they will try again for 2012 and the program is in place for next season regardless of the Pro Tour decision.
I love that they're sanguine about their status...they'll make it eventually...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
This makes me feel better
than the earlier bombastic statements that made it sound like it was doomed to fail. If they have the sense and patience to build gradually it could work out.
Interestingly, I think eventually it has to... 'growing a market'... expanding into the Southern Hemisphere...
Personally I’m ambivalent about an Australian team, but…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Michael Matthews to Rabo for two years.
Good signing. Very good signing policy by Rabo this year.
Blow for Fly V.
Wow, that is kind of a shock. Very good signing for them...hopefully they don't blow it and mismanage his talent
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Gesink, Mollema, Boom, Kruijswijk (just some current youngsters who they've not exactly "mismanaged").
If he goes to HTC he ends up in a sprint train, if he goes to Sky he’ll fade into oblivion. I think it’s a clever decision on his part.
by blackswangreen on Sep 10, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
There can be a lot said about that...it's more about not letting him become a Rabo and have a slew of
results but not having any wins. That’s what I mean by mismanagement. Gesink…he has been on the PT for 4 years now. He has exactly 1 podium finish in a stage race, which should be his forte based on his pedigree. I can see an argument for progression but after 4 years he should of at least had a race, besides ‘07 Poland, where he could bust out for a podium.
Boom hasn’t been as sharp in his 2nd full year…It might have been better for him to go to HTC because at least he could learn how to become a winner in the PT peloton but that’s left to be seen.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 10, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He's now regularly getting his ass kicked by Degenkolb, so Rabo will be just the team for him ;)
But I see what you mean. I was watching a video lately of Gesink winning the Settimana Lombarda at 19 years old, and I have to admit that I thought: wait, this guy really is a winner, why don’t we get to see any of that? But he’s been so awfully close a few times… eventually it will have to pan out.
by blackswangreen on Sep 10, 2010 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions
That's excellent news!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Cameron Wurf... an Australian youngster is going to Liqui. Great news..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Seems like a very good workhorse...CN highlighted something about him dropping back from the big Giro break, most likely waiting on the side of the road, and then driving the peloton for 100km
to bring down the gap. Glad to see him on a bigger squad
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 10, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It's exciting... and you're right I think. He's a workhorse... Oz seems to be good at those..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
A mere child Brad!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So Matthews is a baby I take it? ;)
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 10, 2010 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions
More a man child :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ruslan Pidgornyy and Maxim Belkovsky to Vacansoleil.
I've seen more and more riders shaving their arms these days. I don't know why, really, I'm not tempted--the legs are already too much. It seems to come from Australia. All the Australians have shaved arms.--Matti Breschel, Oct. Cycle Sport
If that doesn't give them a Tour invite, I don't know what does
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 10, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
No Lampre-ISD for Pidgornyy?
I applaud it anyway, he’s good enough to ride anywhere.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
van Poppel
Is 22 years old. Bit of a strange step for him but it could be a good move. Away from the stress of the Euro peloton/
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
Has JP still got a job there?
what with his wife due to sprog any day
He won a sprint in Cali a couple of years back
but I don’t remember seeing his name much since
I'm not saying they should take him.
I know virtually nothing about the kid, except that I think naming your boy Boy is stupid.
Don't be so Anglocentric
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 11, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh?
I speak the same language as Boy Van Poppel. It’s not a “normal” Dutch name, and it doesn’t mean anything except for boy.
I was joking anyways
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 12, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Won a stage in Tour of Missouri in 2008
But that’s the only result that springs to mind
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 11, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Missouri, Cali, same difference
it’s all Britney country, isn’t it.
He's been riding cross
Now seems to go 100% for the road.
Robert Gesink on the difference between football and cycling: "For us it's a lot harder to get yellow"
Tim Gudsell to leave FdJ
From his twitter
Though my head was far from in the race after the DS told me 15min before the start I don’t have a job for next year. Great motivator…
And Gudsell have had two horrible years
More injured than not.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 12, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't he start to suspect he didn't have a contract for next year since it's mid-September and he didn't have a contract yet?
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 12, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
There are obviously a lot of things going on that we don’t have a clue about. I found a post from late october 2008 on his blog, where he said that he had signed for a new year with FdJ.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 13, 2010 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of the riders I want for next year's VDS are going to Rabobank
I didn’t have a single Rabobank rider this year. Now I want to pick like 5 of them.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
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