Phinney takes phlight?
by sminer on Sep 1, 2010 9:31 PM EDT
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Don't say this boy isn't a forward thinker. Taylor Phinney knows that Radio Shack only has a contract to the end of 2011 and he's got suspicions that they may not continue sponsorship at the end of that contract. What on earth could have created such paranoia in this young man? Seems other teams out there like Team Good Lux and BMC are aware of the same rumors causing these suspicions and are tempting Phinney out of his current situation. Will he or won't he go, and if he goes, where will it be? Here's my dream scenario.
All the cool people are leaving Riis and going to Team Good Lux, "You want job security and great on the job training young Phinney?", look no further. Do we really need to even speculate where Spartacus is going since he's talking about leaving now? Oh how I would love for Cance to get back with the rest of his cool mates, and then hear the news that T. Phinney was heading to ride for the Schleck brothers and under the "classic" guidance of the great Cancellara. Wait a minute please, I'm having a moment of spiritual communion... "Heavenly cycling gods... please make it so."
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Even Trek is going to Team Lux
Can I be the only one wondering if there is a Radio Shack / Team Lux connection?
The writing seems to be on the wall
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
wasn't there some talk
about Lance and the Schleck bros way back??
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There was talk about Lance and EVERYONE last year
Any rider who did at all well, or looked popular, was linked to RS…. helped by LA & Bruyneel saying how much they liked eg Brice Feillu, or whoever man-of-the-moment was at the day of the week
by Sarah Connolly on Sep 2, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he heads to BMC...get some classics schooling from Hincapie and Ballan wouldn't hurt.
Use Van Avermaet as a nice lead-out (yeah, I’m sure Greg wouldn’t mind at all…)
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
BMC in the classics?
Meh . . .
I can think of many other places that would be much more constructive.
Team Lux is more constructive I think
That is if Cance does get over there as I suspect he will. If Taylor could land Cancellara as a tutor… game over.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Well it's not exactly performance at this point as gaining knowledge...we might knock Hincapie all the time for
having the worst luck ever but he knows his stuff.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Ballan and Quinziato are not exactly appalling choices as mentors either..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ballan? Some personal matter aside, a former Ronde Champion isn't a good mentor? Phinney is fluent in Italian btw
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 2, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was adding to the list of useful mentors, not dissing Hincapie...geez
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Wow...vocabulary fail on my part. Apparently I don't read the words not exactly. Very sorry =[
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
His parents have been around
since the advent of Americans on the International scene.He will have the best career advice[as well as the advantage of the best gene pool outside of that Eddy M /Jeannie L love child fantasy]. If the drool buckets aren’t out in the Waterloo Wis Trek Design Facility around the Taylor Phinney Team Schleck Trek 2013 model, something in Cycling God Heaven ain’t right.
"Waar is die Idioot?" R. McEwen to F Dostoyevsky-Post Stage 6 2010
That tie, and if his talent continues to grow,
makes him a very hot commodity.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Did you just say Cance is going to Team Lux? and Phinney may join him?
Wowsers…that would be fun!
Yes, I will have an Ultra Liberal MoCo Latte please.
Well, I put my prayer in anyway.
And the dots are starting to connect in such a way.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I've been awol a lot...but just read up in the transfers thread. This is the exciting rumor to me. I'd love cance to be at Lux.
Phinney would just be cool…Those two together could tear up PR and Flanders (and Cance can do that himself)…
Boonen’s gotta be saying, “shit, shit, shit”.
Yes, I will have an Ultra Liberal MoCo Latte please.
by JustJoshinYa on Sep 1, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Followed by snort, snort, snort.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
nice
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by JustJoshinYa on Sep 1, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Garmin is going to F up team Lux and Quickstep anyway
"Until you shoot me off my bike I'll keep looking for a contract" - Jens!
Quitter's People United member # 42
Garmin vs this Lux sounds interesting...
QS = yawn
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by JustJoshinYa on Sep 1, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if it was next year those two would tear up Northern Europe...except Cancellara would be doing all the tearing up
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 2, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
So. Much. Fun
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
RadioShack has the right to match any other offer that Phinney gets though
I believe they have first refusal rights. So if they want him, they can get him.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Following his twitter a little
And this over at CN, which he also posted, makes it sound like he’s free to fly.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
RadioShack in 2011
Do we even know if Team RadioShack will be around next year? If you were on the ground in Utah, there were some pretty loud whispers that corporate might be pulling the plug this year.
by Chief Commissaire on Sep 2, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, it just seems like one has to connect the dots.
Trek going to Team Lux puts a megaphone to the loud whisper.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
RSH has gone from outperforming the market and its peers
for much of Jan. to April or May, and for June to early Aug., to a slump since early August. Not sure how much to read into that—could be random fluctuations, could be the price of their widget suppliers in China (Best Buy is also hurting). But if they are making financial decisions now, presumably they’re looking at budget conditions, they’re wondering if RS (the team) is worth it, if they’re losing market share…
ticker site with comparisons here.
Well . . . say you're an RS marketing type
how do you justify the lack of results in races that count against the negative exposure that has already occurred and is likely to continue occurring?
I don’t know how to account for this, but remember the collective “meh” that erupted when Armstrong and Bruyneel announced . . . Radio Shack . . . as the sponsor of their team. Compared to the companies buzzed about before the announcement, Radio Shack is an e-list entity. (And I say that as a native Fort Worther who ought to be proud a hometown company got some publicity).
So . . . what interests me is the behind the scenes “tick-tock” of how Armstrong’s supposed marketing mojo wound up tied to . . . an inconsequential company even within Texas. Is this lack of marketing pull attributable to cycling in general or is it more related to the questions surrounding Armstrong and co?
good questions, in my view
I was surprised by how that particular story ended. I expected a much more prominent corporation to sponsor the team, really.
I'm sure it's both
but I have no idea which one you could attribute it to more. But if Radio Shack bails early, it’s certainly attributable to the shit that’s hitting the fan.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Or supporting a team because of a single rider who is likely to retire in one year is a stupid idea.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 2, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But if that one year had been a success...
and Landis had dropped off the face of the earth… who knows
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Just the money, right? Not the intangibles.
Like access to certain races, e.g., which RS can’t promise…
He should leave the Shack
and go to a team that knows what classics are. .
"Until you shoot me off my bike I'll keep looking for a contract" - Jens!
Quitter's People United member # 42
I'm thinking he's got to that conclusion.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I believe that the number of teams
where one can discuss Plato, Sophocles and Sappho is somewhat limited.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 2, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
This post made me laugh. But I like the ending as much as anyone. Hmm, I think I’d prefer the BMC route, but the Cancellara-Phinney pairing would be quite remarkable.
Cancellara-Phinney would be good times indeed.
but 3 million euro to buy out Cance’s contract seems, er, prohibitively steep. A girl can dream
Maybe a private sponsor could put up the buyout money?
It’s not totally outside the realm of possibility. Just sort of unlikely.
I really do not understand the truth.--Riccardo Ricco (per Google Translate)
Yeah I could only see BMC trying to get Cance now b/c it would make no sense for the Schlecks to give Riis 3 million euro
I mean, with all ready having Contador and everything. Rihs is a pretty rich man though…
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
IDK
I think this Saxo crew is a pretty tight squad, Cance seems to want to go, why?, Riis seems willing to let him go, why? Cance wants to go with his buds.
I have no idea how tight these cats are, but they seem to really get along. Cance has always seemed to want to give help to the Schlecks (esp. Andy) as oppossed to just doig it as a job description. And then he also enjoys quite a bit of success of his own. I can see how they would jump on the opportunity to keep together even at this price.
But BMC is more than a tolerable option. The Sky talk however, let’s just hope there is no chance of that happening.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Friendship really seems like a factor
but I can also imagine the very real fear that any team that has Contador will be very one-man-focused, even for a man with Cance’s palmarés and status.
That's certainly my fear... and we can see other teams buying up Classics riders...
so far Saxo hasn’t.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well, Cance may be trying for L-B-L and Giro d'Lombardia next year...
Still, point taken.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Sep 2, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the Lux. team hasn't really done that either...
other than O’Grady and to a lesser extent Klemme, no big classics names have been linked there so his help would he lacking there as well at this point
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Sep 3, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
O'Grady is there for other reasons
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Fränk's airbag
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 3, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Bluffy descends much faster than Fränk
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Sep 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking Schecks' nanny... but airbag is good
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Does he ever get phed up with
people trying to be phunny by phucking around with his name?
i'm sure he pheels that pholks are phree to do as the see phit.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Gosh, how insensitive of me, I never considered that.
I’ll send some money to his therapy phund.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
It's interesting now to remember this::
L’Equipe, July 29, 2009: http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2009/20090729_093501_les-schleck-toujours-chez-saxo.html
July 30, 2009 – Schleck brothers’ agent refutes transfer rumor
Frank and Andy Schleck’s agent has stated that there is no contact to further a deal between the brothers and Team RadioShack, the new team being formed by Lance Armstrong.
Giovanni Lombardi, the former CSC rider who now serves as personal agent to the brothers, attributed the rumors of a possible deal to a strategy of the Texan’s for upsetting Alberto Contador.
"There’s no chance of that happening. I’ve had no contact with Bruyneel. It’s only a strategy to make Contador lose next year," said Lombardi to the French sports daily L’Equipe.
Lombardi’s statement quashed rumors that Andy Schleck, who finished second in the Tour last Sunday, was going to sign with Armstrong’s team.
"Andy has clearly seen everything that Alberto Contador went through at the Tour this year, and nobody can imagine that he’s going to get involved in that, with the ambitions he has for next year," said Lombardi.
The brothers’ agent indicated that they will fulfill the one year they have remaining on their contracts with Saxo Bank.
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