Contador tests positive for clenbuterol, blames food contamination
Tour de France test carried out on July 21, Spaniard blames food contamination
Alberto Contador has revealed he has failed an anti-doping test for the banned substance clenbuterol during this year's Tour de France.
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Wow.
This is going to put the UCI anti-doping program on trial.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
yes
as if we needed more doping controversy… after a startled “what?” when I saw the article, my next thought was “not again!”
I just don't see how this turns out well
Either Contador gets punished for accidental exposure for two years like everyone, or the UCI is opened to huge charges of hypocrisy and selective prosecution.
(Or Contador gets punished for doping and he doped. Which, I naively don’t believe)
This sucks.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
To add...
…it goes farther b/c on the off chance that they actually can prove the contamination, what people are saying is that ‘strict liability’ in the WADA code means it wouldn’t matter.
IF (huge if, both in terms of the excuse being the most effective bs they could come up with and in terms of the possibility of proving it if it’s not) the contamination claim turns out to be true, I can’t imagine this ends well for WADA.
Honestly, given how many legit doping cases Spain has suffered...
…and how many more they’ve covered up, I’m about as unsympathetic to them as can possibly be imagined.
And that’s assuming this isn’t another perfectly legit doping case, which is possible, but hardly probable at this juncture.
Yup
the Spanish angle is one I really don’t give a shit about. But given that a couple of women, Marta Bastianelli and Flavia Oliveira, have been busted for what they claimed were dodgy supplements, and given that WADA managed to get Bastianelli’s ban extended to two years at CAS when her federation wanted to treat her more gently, Bert’s only chance of getting less than two years is going to be naming some names. And not Sam Walton.
That or the most unlikely scenario...
…prove the contamination conclusively and then get CAS to tell WADA that strict liability has limits beyond which it’s mindlessly unjust.
I’d actually root for that if someone could promise me the last outcome. Cleaning up the sport should not be done at the cost of indefensible rules.
But it's psychologically very unhelpful to be able to say,
“see, even if we do our best to ride clean, we could still lose two years.”
Clembuterol Food Contamination - BS
His team of people think that the press and average person are idiots. They looked on the wiki page for Clembuterol and saw that it was once found in pork in China and contaminated some Chinese folks. Food production in China is rife with adulteration of livestock – see the melamine controversy a year or two back. Perhaps he was eating Chinese pork during the TDF that was dosed up with high levels of clembuterol, but reasonable person cannot accept this excuse.
This is a brochodilator and thus makes too much sense in terms of a performance enhancing drug that a cyclist would use. He was caught on the rest day in Pau. If the B comese back positive – he gives up the TDF. It will go to Andy, who will be pissed. Bjarne’s new team is chock full of skinny Spanish climbers and without anyone to ride for.
ok . . .
(scratching head)
If Contador’s support staff decided to use Clenbutorol to treat allergy-related breathing problems, why not write an rx and get a TUE?
Clembuterol is a performance enhancer.
It opens the airways thus facilitating O2 transfer.
And...
…why cite the food contamination defense at all if strict liability does what everyone on the twit tells me it does, namely make this entire defense meaningless?
It’s…odd. But the other question is would a TUE have been forthcoming as there are surely other drugs available to treat Athasma related breathing problems.
Even if strict liability means he's banned
he still has to worry about his image and whether he’s viewed as Bert the Cheater or Bert the Unfortunate Victim.
I suspect it would make a difference to sponsors when he’d be ready to come back, and it may help shorten the length of the ban.
Nope, a recurrent problem in spain and italy, and an allowed substance in animal feed in the EU.
When you google something, finish the job properly, please. And if you’re quoting someone else, check their reliability. Heck, even in China, it’s not “once”—there were multiple cases of high dose contamination.
Note that one of the compound’s illegal uses is to create lean and rosy pork, and its legal uses include beef and horsemeat.
Hey, what are you finding for "recurrent problem"?
Contador’s expert doesn’t cite a case in Spain any later than 1992, and when I Google I find that same study over and over. If you already have some links, I don’t want to duplicate the effort.
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see other thread but...
Rev Clin Esp. 1997 Feb;197(2):92-5.
[Clenbuterol poisoning. Clinical and analytical data on an outbreak in Móstoles, Madrid] [Article in Spanish] From eating veal liver, Spain
Vet Hum Toxicol. 1998 Jun;40(3):141-3.
Clenbuterol residues in non-liver containing meat as a cause of collective food poisoning. that one’s August 1996 Caserta (Italy).
Toxicol Lett. 2000 Apr 3;114(1-3):47-53.
Clinical and pharmacological profile in a clenbuterol epidemic poisoning of contaminated beef meat in Italy. also Italy, presuming it would be in 1998 or so, but it could be a rehash of the previous.
Food Addit Contam. 2005 Jun;22(6):563-6.
Food poisoning by clenbuterol in Portugal Four separate cases in Portugal, lamb and beef.
Am J Med. 2004 Sep 1;117(5):362.
Proposed guidelines for clenbuterol food poisoning. (i.e. Common enough to need /get a standard response)
Hair screening protocol for detecting use in calves (Moo cows, not lower legs)
And in the other thread I posted a link to legal use limits in the EU, in beef and horse (but not pork). Much lower than the toxicity limit, but high enough to pop a Contador range positive, depending how much urine you assume is voided over the course of 48 hours by a championship level cyclist. Or not. How much does he pee, how much does he sweat, to what degree does it matter that it was a rest day… Did he eat half a pound or a pound or two pounds of the meat… was it fresh, or was it dried / concentrated…
I think I figured that the stuff was detected at a level that was 1/ 4,000 of the total of what a pound of meat at the legal limit would give him. But the detection amount was per ml. Average urine output for an average adult on an average day is ~1.2 L, so if we kinda sorta deal with the half life by cutting the original amount in half for a day having gone by, then the quoted level fits very nicely in the range of what you’d expect him to be excreting, per ml, a day later—without the meat having gone over the legal limit for sale in the EU, even!
I’ll cross post this in the other thread, seeing that’s where it actually belongs better, but I wanted to answer your question here.
I wonder what Riis is thinking about now.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Where's the shotgun?
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
He is currently screaming into a pillow and rocking back and forth slowly
empire crumbling…and I hate to say it, it’s not his fault at all, nothing worked out well.
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So Contador has asthma issues, tests positive for a performance enhancer used to combat asthma
and claims it was food contamination?
Same drug that Li Fuyu of Radio Shack tested positive for earlier this year, no?
Don’t see why Contador should be treated differently than Li Fuyu. Did anyone believe he was innocent?
Li Fuyu - I don't know.
Though apparently the documented cases of food tainted by clenbuterol are from China, so maybe he should have.
The circumstantials are just so bad with Contador. Had allergy-related breathing problems in the mountains during the season, tests positive for a banned substance used to help with allergenic breathing problems when the Tour is on the line in the Pyrenees. No history of clenbuterol tainting food in Europe.
Maybe I’m reading it wrong. Never been a Contador fan so it doesn’t affect me much. JMy gut reaction is that I hope people don’t go down the Hamilton-Landis “I still believe” route with this guy. No one needs that.
by Mr 60 Percent on Sep 29, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
false, about the no history of clen tainted food in EU.
See other thread. Or google it yourself. Mostly from liver and other organ meats, also from regular meat.
That's whats got me concerned
Li did get a ban, its not like you can just sweep this under the rug, if he did indeed test positive for a banned substance in some fashion. This is just a really wierd incident.
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At the time I recall a number of people saying
the likelihood Li got the drug from contaminated food in China were pretty good.
Contador doped, got caught and now must sit two years
I really don’t see how we can accept any other explanation. Sure it could have been food contamination, but the way more logical explanation is that he doped.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
I can accept other explanation
Unfortunately, I don’t think the UCI and WADA can.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
I should say I find it really temping to agree with this.
Subsequent evidence might change that, but it’s going to have to be some very serious evidence. For the moment, it looks very much as if we now know how he managed to ride into form in the Tour.
But I shall try to withhold judgment at least a little bit. First reports are almost always um, partial.
ok, food contamination...
why didn’t his teammates pop a positive too? All the guys eat the meals together, same foods, same contamination. Doping sucks – excuses are worse.
by JustJoshinYa on Sep 29, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you
I think the rules have been cut and dry for everyone else, I’m sick of him being held up as a morally responsible rider when he has had a checkered past (lets be honest). Time to get the Piti treatment then come back and win some more Tours.
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Bad!
cycling will once again be on the Sportcenter and represented as the dirtiest sport ever. Thanks to whoever fucked up; be it the UCI, the chef or the accountant.
Thank you for returning to my life cross season!
by australopithecine on Sep 29, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
I don't want to wade into this too far
But clenbuterol is used as a treatment to keep meat lean… but only really in developing countries. The EU, I would suspect, likely has even stricter regulations on its non-use in food than the USA does. I don’t think “food contamination” is a likely story.
exactly
If this were the Tour de Langkawi the argument would make more sense.
by Mr 60 Percent on Sep 29, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Contador was tested just about every day during the Tour.
That he tests positive during the second race day is odd.
En nee ik heb niet gezopen!
Ricco was tested almost every day he was in the tour, and only turned in a couple positives
I think we’ve learned that you can test positive one day and negative the next without much explanation
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
by PopUp Rolen on Sep 29, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd.
This is an important point to keep in mind. Negative tests do not invalidate positive tests.
and it seems like this is going to be Contador's defense. Or maybe I should say the "team of experts" his PR team has assembled.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
That or 'he got screwed by some nebulous contamination'...
…I’m willing to accept contamination with proof. I have no doubt that it happens and the food supply is way less reliable than we’d all like to imagine it is (not being tested constantly). But ‘we have a team of experts that say’ is not proof, by a very very long shot.
It didn't work for Zirbel
Why should it work for anyone else?
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
Zirbel didn't prove it...
…and I doubt AC will either.
Garzelli (it was him with the coke laced candies, right?) did prove it. That makes a huge difference. I have no idea whether TZ was bs-ing. I’m not sure whether AC is either, but it’s awfully hard to credit the excuse in the absence of some proof, especially when the innocent use is so much less likely than a guilty one.
Right, I wasn't sure....
…point stands in any case.
Yep. It's really hard to prove contamination
the appropriate comparison case would be Scott Moninger.
cycling is giving PR firms a lot of work these days, sadly.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Clembuterol - has a short half life.
This drug is more like ibuprofen than EPO. Its half life is ~30 hours, so it is out of ones system fast. If he used it in the mountains then it is very likely that detectable levels were present on the rest day.
Exactly wrong. Long half life.
Clenbuterol (often called just "Clen") is used by athletes and bodybuilders for it’s ability as a beta-2 agonist. It therefore stimulates your beta-2 receptors, which in turn help you to lose fat by allowing your body to release and burn more stored fat. Clen has been used for literally decades in the foreign veterinary world, for increasing the lean yield of livestock. It is clearly a very effective agent for this purpose, although its long half life and tendency to stay active in the body for long periods of time mean that vets in the United States aren’t able to use it. This is also the reason why (although it’s an asthma medication) it’s not available to asthmatics in the US of A. Albuterol is Clen’s shorter acting cousin, and that’s the FDA’s drug of choice here. But in the world of athletics, Clenbuterol has a much longer history of use.
En nee ik heb niet gezopen!
Yes, because Contador really needed to slim down and lose that extra fat
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
My son uses albuterol for his asthma.
I’m totally using his nebulizer!
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
Hey C'mon dude...
give up the inhaler for your dad…
Extra allowance!! Just don’t tell your mom, pls.
by ManBicycleThing on Sep 29, 2010 9:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
short or long is entirely relative to whatever you're comparing it to.
Looks more like 20 hours in his body, though, based on the test results.
comment of the thread and it's early
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Hopefully HWNMNBM won't restate it via twitter.
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Didn't get the whole "pay the UCI" part
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by Phil H. on Sep 29, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, plus he must have failed to get the forged post-dated TUE
if he is claiming “contamination”. GD Amateur hour.
i bet the post-dated TUE was attempted, and failed. Plan B was food contamination
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
He could've won seven straight too
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Does anyone have Jens home #?
Because I think we should all conference call him and see what he has to say.
So my first thought after 'oh shit' and 'too big to fail'...
…was “Ladies and Gentlemen, Bjarne Riis has just reaped the karmic whirlwind.”
Andy Shleck smiles
x2 – Down with Conta and down with Riis all in one motion.
just pixels with personality
I don't think Andy wants to back into a TdF win. At least I hope he doesn't
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
I get that to an extent. but andy wants to stand on the top step in Paris
I don’t think he wants to get his jersey shipped to him in the mail
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
I was projecting more towards the future
if Contador is our for two years, it’s Andy vs. time trialists for the next two years.
just pixels with personality
Come to think of it...
…the TdF just got interesting again, didn’t it?
Silver lining, anyone?
isn't it less interesting?
wasn’t AC vs AS the heavyweight match-up we all wanted to see now that they appear more evenly matched than they have ever been?
least appropriate use of term "heavyweight" evah . . .
by R Mc on Sep 29, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, assuming they stayed so evenly matched.
On the other hand, a bunch of guys ganging up on Andy trying to beat him is possible. AC seemed invulnerable to that.
true
I suppose that is the bright side, it just seems hard to make the race (especially in the Tour) in a TT or non-mountain stage, it’s gonna happen no matter what, but Andy can always attack just for giggles in the mountains so it would seem the cards are in his hands
You don't think he put a winning performance in?
I know he didn’t win, but that was one of the best second place performances in a while.
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it's not about what I think or you think about his performance, it's what Andy experienced
Andy stood on the second step of the podium. You can’t go back and give him the elation and joy of what it’s like to win the greatest race in cycling. When he’s declared a winner, I bet he’s more pissed than elated. Nobody wants to win the Tour because the guy above you got popped.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
by PopUp Rolen on Sep 29, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
I wouldnt have a problem calling him the winner, but what will he think? I think it would be weirder if he was cool with it than if he was pissed at the whole scenario.
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I also don't think a Schleck
wants to tempt that particular karma loop.
by Sui Juris on Sep 29, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
Not a conta fan, but THIS is not good for cycling one tiny little bit.
by JustJoshinYa on Sep 29, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 At least when it is an older rider
we can tell ourselves that the sport has changed since whatever year (2005 , 2006, 2007, yesterday… whenever) and that a new generation has come in, and then we get blown back like this. I mean, Conta always had suspicions and ties to Saiz and JB so he is not really a “new” or a very young guy, but crap.
That said, if he did and they run through all the appeals and the test still holds water I hope he serves the full two and not some sweetheart 20 month deal that’d let him do the 2012 Tour (although I suppose there is the Vuelta that year anyway).
I hate this line of reasoning
as long as specifically unrepentant members of previous generations are in charge of harvesting profits from, oops, I meant, ‘mentoring’ the young ones, NOTHING will change.
agreed
how many DSs and team managers or even owners have ties to doping in the past? Is there one credibly clean leadership group in the entire ProTour? How do we move past this, not allow anyone do be involved with cycling as a non-rider if they have doping convictions or have made admissions? Or do we let them in if they willingly confess and repent only but not if they appeal or deny any charges?
There is also the corollary to that line of reasoning: “we can’t bust/investigate him, it would be bad for cycling.” I say line them (dopers) up and knock them down, I just hope we are making progress and not merely treading water while someone puts out decoys.
If professional racing disappeared.
I’d still love riding my bike.
I might even have MORE time to ride my bike.
Those guys need fans like us way more than I need them.
is the 'mentoring' in part meant to be a mini-phinney reference?
because if so the things you just got me thinking about have made me depressed about the entire past week’s events, oh well.
No. If there's any rider I can think of who would be immune to that
it would be Taylor Phinney. Somehow I think mom would go Betsy Andreu if she heard of such stuff.
I was thinking of Ricco, primarily.
mentoring ricco? sounds like a nightmare
don’t know why anyone would even bother.
But Floyd’s allegations against Hincapie and Lelangue coupled with all the talk of Phinney as “the future” and of him being “mentored in the classics” I was feeling a bit pessimistic and had dark thoughts. I do not think he would, but that would certainly be a huge blow in a few years time if he did.
So I guess this explains why Riis has been prickly lately
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Ah SNAP!!!
What’s that sound?
87 VDS teams subtracting 1996 points from the team total!
And THAT is why AC would never be on one of my teams!
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
same here
alright!
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
It's not even the positive that makes me tired
it’s the coming tidal wave of asshattery from . . . us. As in the fans. So not worth the polemica that’s about to take over discussion.
by Sui Juris on Sep 29, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
on the flip side, i look forward to the funny, clever and witty posts and tweets
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Dude, the twit is on fire right now...
Example…
@Cyclocosm Clenbuterol in the tapas is the new testosterone patch on the scrotum.
I'll agree tenfold
Cyclingnews… may not be so visited in the next few days weeks for me.
by Douglas Ansel on Sep 29, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad timing
we were having such a good week of racing going and now its back to doping, police raids, and trials again…yeah… :(
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B sample confirmation, I think.
And not sure if there’s any process in place if it runs out the clock (i.e., B sample confirmation comes after end of season). My personal vote is to attached a scarlet A (or B?) to the winners jersey, in that case.
Hmm, let's just hope...
That the winning team doesn’t have Contador on it.
What else can I say? I'm really happy. --Vincenzo Nibali
Who?
“The experts consulted so far have agreed also that this is a food contamination case, especially considering the number of tests passed by Alberto Contador during the Tour de France, making it possible to define precisely both the time the emergence of the substance as the tiny amount detected, ruling out any other source or intentionality.”
What kind of BS reporting is that?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
It's a quote from Contador's press release
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
So Contador's people are telling us that the experts agree with him?
Sounds good, let’s just forget the whole thing then.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
And then Gav uses KISSING in the title of her thread.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
That's a BS press release...
…experts not identified, since the last thing they want is scrutiny.
Mi hijo no toma los medicamentos
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Nice try
but enough of this denial, I’ve heard too much denial, too many excuses to believe another one. So sick of this bs!
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There, you have been warned.
I will restate what I wrote in Gav's post
fuck…
But I will also add it does not make me “I CAN’T TRUST ANYONE!!!” person. I watch this sport for the love of the competition first and I understand major doping scandals happen, I will still watch the worlds with the same excitement as before. Blows for Riis and all those of us who believed the guy was clean but shit happens.
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But the truth is...
you can’t trust anybody just because they say you should!
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Totally agree, and blows for all of cycling,
once again.
I’m into Worlds, fuck this shit for now, and thanks for the great timing once again powers that be.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
No shit
I know this is important news but sometimes I wish they purposely hold it back for a week so we don’t get shat on during one of cycling’s biggest events. Fucking ASO
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Wonder when they found this out
surely they wouldn’t hold it back during their own Vuelta…
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From CN
“From the time of the first communication from the UCI, August 24, Alberto Contador alleged food contamination as the only possible explanation of what happened and has been turned over to the cyclist authorities since then in the confidence that this very serious problem could be clarified, which now is public.”
There is alot of explaining to do from ASO/UCI/WADA
I’m more pissed at what looks like a cover-up to me, then an actual positive that kind of doesn’t shock me (a cyclist doping? gasp!!!). i won’t jump to conclusions about what happened, but we need some more answers methinks.
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I'm on board with you Phil
I know I should be shocked and saddened for the sport, but i’m not. dopers will always play a prominent role in this sport and i’ve accepted it.
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
Yes. I go with what Christian VandeVelde said during the Rasmussen mess...
“Cycling will always be a beautiful sport no matter how many people disgrace it.”
And I think Fabian proved him right tonight.
What else can I say? I'm really happy. --Vincenzo Nibali
That is why I so look forward to a fresh crop of young riders in the near future.
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When will the "fuck it I actually am an alien and will kill you all if you suspend me" comment come???
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Isn't that roughly what the chicken said...
…but they mistranslated it, as usual?
No one believes that guy has any ability to kill someone
alien on the other hand…
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The man from planet Pinocchio
here’s week two of his Dancing with the Stars effort
the chicken dancing with the stars?
did not think i could lose any more respect…. wow, new base line for douchebaggery!
"Race radios in Cat 4?"
bwahaaaaahaaaaahaaaaaaa.....gasp, gasp....bwaaahhaaaaahhhaaaaahhaaa
"Thanks again, Floyd Landis, Yellow Jersey Wearer: Nuisance Category"
HATER
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I think the laughter
is at this silly notion that the youth of cycling are going to restore honor to the sport.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
HATER
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It's true... I hate that notion.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I'll have to wait and see how this plays out,
but my first thought is that the suspension of the Chinese dude really hurts Contador – now anything less for him will look like a double standard.
Still, could be totally different despite fact that it’s same drug…we’ll see I guess.
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
Wait and see?
We kept samples of all of Contador’s meals, and we will go back and test everything until we find the tainted meat. I assure you we will find this contamination and prove our client’s integrity.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
hehe
don’t you do that with your meals? I keep samples of all of mine for at least 6 mo.s back
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Sep 30, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Do I have to be the one to suggest that "you know who" is behind this?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Leave Brittany alone!
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Dude, I was gonna say we need to get ahead of the conspiracy theories...
…and work out our own.
We have to have something.
The velocity guys already have WWLT. Surely we can outdo anyone else where conspiracy theories are concerned, if we try.
spiked banana?
Wasn’t it conta shaking his banana? I am confused…
by JustJoshinYa on Sep 29, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Andy spiked his power gels while filming the specialized commercial?
or was it the the deep fried turkey that did it?
Oh also
This finally answer’s the ‘why Riis has been so weird?’ question. He’s insanely pissed at everyone who’s leaving him b/c well, he needs them now but can’t say why, not that it’ll matter.
Karma has not been kind to Riis this year.
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
Can we throw Karma off the roof of the PdC Tower?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I do love a great set up.
Of course there’s a Tower You don’t think Gav really writes from a coffee shop do you?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
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