VDS 2011: Time To Come Out And Play!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 10:23 AM EST
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After some weeks of rather cryptic discussion, it is finally that time. The 2011 Podium Cafe Virtual Directeur Sportif starts now! Actually we flipped the switch overnight but we're telling you now, because de Cross gaat door. Anyway...
What Is It?
The Virtual Directeur Sportif (VDS) is our yearlong cycling game reminiscent of fantasy sports, without the creepy name. You pick your own 25-man team, then follow them throughout the season as they accumulate points for your team. If you're like majorly wicked lucky good at picking your team and you finish on the podium at season's end, you're in line for some awesome Podium Cafe swag. [Last year: a full Capo PdC kit. This year: coal? The respect of your peers? A date with Thomas Lofkvist? Who knows. But I bet you'd like to find out.] And if you don't technically win, you'll still have a great time and probably learn a lot about the riders you picked... or wish you picked. [VDS... Now! with more regrets!!]
How does the game work?
You have 150 points to spend on a roster of 25 riders. You don't have to spend all 150 points but you must have exactly 25 riders. Riders cost anywhere from 1 to 28 points. Check out the riders here, where you can peruse prices and get an idea. Once you assemble your team, the work is over. There is no in-season swapping, no setting your lineup every day. Cycling isn't baseball.
Points are scored in a list of races we have designated at the Podium Cafe Race Calendar. How many points? Which riders can I hire? Any other wrinkles? Go read the rules! There aren't very many rules, but if you don't follow them, your team will be rejected. Nobody likes rejection. Also, we do rather strenuously enforce the one team per person rule. Please, keep it fair!
What does it cost?
No money. No portion of your soul. No strings attached. No, I'm not joking.
So I don't have to do anything before getting started?
Well, no, you do have to become a registered member of the Podium Cafe before you can start. If you're not one already, that is.
OK, I can handle that. What Next?
Head on over to the Podium Cafe VDS Website and get started! The first step is to use your Podium Cafe login ID to create a new login at the VDS website... unless you played the VDS 2010 last season, in which case your existing login and password have been saved for you to use again this year. Just sign in and you're good to go.
I'm Indecisive. Should I wait?
Nope. Get started picking your team now. As you are hiring riders your picks are automatically saved to your account, no further action needed. You can log in to the VDS site whenever you want to tinker with your team, hiring and firing riders endlessly, until deadline day... as long as you do not submit your team! Once you hit "SUBMIT", you can't make changes without groveling to an administrator first.
I'm a procrastinator. Is this a problem?
Not yet, but if your team isn't completely filled out, meeting all the requirements, and submitted by Deadline Day, February 25, 2011, then you're out of the competition until 2012.
OK, I'm ready
That's great.
[Uncomfortable silence.]
Can I go now?
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Hint: If you click on "My VDS Team Results"
And then change 2011 to 2010 in the URL, you can get a list of your draft team’s 2010 results.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions
Nevermind, that's my 2010 team
Sorry
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
My team of sprinters, classics guys, and absolutely no Spaniards is so going to rule!
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
in 2010?
For sure.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, the guys I picked can't possibly do any worse than they did last year.
I am confident of that.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Wasn't that CVV's mantra for 2010, (this year can't ba any worse than last!)
and now again for 2011
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Jan 31, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
I'm saying this now, before full-on game madness takes over
Thanks so much for all your hard work putting this together! And for the lovely, simple, easy-to-use game site (thanks ted!) – and for the simple rules. It’s great, & I really appreciate it.
(Saying this now as doubtless I’ll be cursing anyone even vaguely related to the game for weeks months until the end of the season!)
by Sarah Connolly on Jan 30, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions
last seasons VDS
was (hopefully no one is insulted) …. light years better than previous years due to Ted’s site and several people’s willingness to immediately update results
moo
Something tells me
that you are in for a little disappointment later this week
To invest (minimum € 10,000) in team SexyMarmotte please use paypal address sexymarmotte@will.com
moo
Chris
will people be able to see my picks before the entry date ends? I don’t want Jens and his cohorts copying my winning picks
moo
I hacked the VDS program but was unable to identify any so called "winning picks"
SURPRISE SURPRISE! Will picked Jerome Coppel again!
My bags are guaranteed sand-free.
The only ones I'm picking again this year are those that are bound to have SuperSeasons!
and when I go through my 2010 team I realize it’s almost all of them.
My bags are guaranteed sand-free.
Jens - one must pick their VDS
while sober
when I go through my 2010 team I realize it’s almost all of them.
moo
Before Ted switched it off
It said I had 11 of the riders Jens had. Is that good or bad?
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
ah yes
surely Löfkvist, Ballan, Quinziato etc. can’t have a rubbish season again…
"What happened in British Cycling, a lot of people doubted me. I've come back, got this victory, and done it my way." - Adam Blythe after his first pro win at Circuit Franco Belge
owls of protest?
That doesn’t bode well ;)
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jan 30, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine one or two riders
will object rather strongly to being cursed for a second year…
"What happened in British Cycling, a lot of people doubted me. I've come back, got this victory, and done it my way." - Adam Blythe after his first pro win at Circuit Franco Belge
I've had Leenoooos for two years now
and at 6 points I’m still tempted
Is it wrong to take him just because I have a Leenoos Barbie?
I would have to remove someone who might actually make points, though.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Great piece of software, Ted
and whoever took part.
I think I'm going to pick a team of only convicted dopers
kind of an experimental thing to see how the ex-dopers can still ride. I fully expect that I will easily beat my total from last season with this plan too.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Hell, even I beat your team last year
and I can’t say that to a lot of people. I am, however, for the first time putting a convict on my team. But I feel dirty.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Them was the days.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
frightening... a mini mick
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
What's with the appearing/disappearing comments below this photo?
Willj: “Great photographer”, Majope: “(+1)” or something like that. But they aren’t visible now.
It's an accomplishment I am proud of
see I was trying to finish as bad as possible last season.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
I don't think you physically could.
DiLuca and Ricco are the only “bargains”. You have to pay normal prices for everyone else. Unless there’s a lot 1 point ex-dopers out there.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Stefan Schumacher baby
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
There should be a couple teams to benchmark yourself against
Like, the highest efficiency team. Or a team composed of the highest cost jumps from last year.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
My 8 year old daughter did a random team as a math problem last year.
She was holding her own, upper half until May or June and ended up somewhere in the 300s. She’ll do it again, although it might be a geography assignment this year. random enough though
by sebastiandeluded on Jan 30, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Pigeons only asks this
Because we always enter a Random Team for the Grand Tour games, and in one Vuelta (2009?), R2D2 (Team Random’s owner) not only beat all of us in our league, but it ended tenth or so in the entire game (out of 6000ish entrants). R2D2 is a cycling genius (with a particular fondness for Cancellara).
Death before decaf! :D
- gavia
Vuelta 2009...
Oh, the ignominy…. Didn’t R2D2 win an entire stage out of the whole game? Or am I making that bit up… The shame! But very useful to see if we were actually any good at all, or if random picks did just as well (it was not so good in 2010, finishing around halfway in the 3 games, no?
by Sarah Connolly on Jan 30, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
No no, he did.
I think he had Lars Boom and someone else in a monster break.
Death before decaf! :D
- gavia
Majope's son had a Dr Who themed team last year
and an Australian themed one saved me from being Lanterne Rouge the year before
sure
because people don’t feel bad enough, they have to be beaten by a random team. Do you want to see Mr Van P cry?
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
wait
OK, we’re doing this.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
My friend Simon made a team last year
He doesn’t know all that much about cycling: he knows the difference between a sprinter and a climber, but not much more. He finished exactly at the middle of the pack, 223rd out of 446 people.
Anyone who enjoys beer as much as he does
and travels to Flanders to hang out with us on the Muur IS a cycling fan. Even if he doesn’t realise it. :)
And the UCI failed… on all accounts. - tgsgirl
by omnevelnihil on Jan 31, 2011 4:38 AM EST up reply actions
+1
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, SuperTed--if you get a minute, is there a way to change one's password in VDS?
My husband has a weird one, can never remember it, and would like to change it to something easier.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Thanks. For some reason, it won't store in Firefox.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Might have once clicked 'Never for this site'
in response to the ‘Remember password?’ prompt. If so, you need to remove podiumcafevds.com from the list of exceptions in the security tab of the options. Or something like that.
Will look into that...thanks again!
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Well hails...
Glad I checked before posting the same question and getting the same depressing answer. pout
http://podiumcafevds.com/login.php
There’s PW recovery on that page
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks--he actually has it written down, but it's one of those random letter/number sequences that he can't for the life of him commit to memory.
So he was hoping to be able to simplify it.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
FYI
In Firefox you can go to Tools>Options>Security and click the “exceptions” box next to “Remember passwords for sites” then remove the entry for podiumcafevds.com
Assuming that’s the problem…
Um, like Ted said.
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
Thanks! Checked that--it wasn't there.
And no, I can’t get him to give up Firefox for Chrome…
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
I'm with him there
Really trying to make myself like Chrome, but I’m too used to all my add-ons for FF.
Did you try clearing cookies and that crap?
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
He's working on something else on his computer now--but that's a good idea.
Will try it tomorrow.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Also
You can always look in “Saved Passwords” and it will give you a list of passwords per user name that are being stored.
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
It's not there, and Firefox won't save it.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
ugh
that’s just dumb
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
Hey Ted....
the VDS login doesn’t like me – can’t find my ‘public address’ using my PdC username – Marcus in Oz – any hints??
Thanks in advance,
Marcus
Where's the next cafe - is there a bakery there too?
Hey that was quick....
VDS signup now likes me!!
(yes I had read the instructions – probably needs a step – “wait 30 seconds after updating” :-)
Now to sort out a team :-(
Where's the next cafe - is there a bakery there too?
by Marcus in Oz on Jan 30, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe that was it
or some temporary connection problem. The sign-up process needs to read the profile page. If that doesn’t go smoothly, a read or time-out error could follow.
also
it’s Sunday. Strange things happen to the VDS site on Sundays.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
and the excuse the other six days of the week?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Beer?
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
Team Names
Do team names lock when you hit submit or can you change them up until you submit your final roster?
You can change them until you submit your roster
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone heard if Cameron Meyer has planned to win the Allan Davis Award?
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
Provisional team is done
Time to sent voodoo dolls to all those who didn’t make the cut.
Death before decaf! :D
- gavia
well
that pretty much tells us who’s on your team. A bunch of guys you’d never dream of cursing.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
You mean
You’d never dream of cursing…. before they break their collarbones/get busted for doping/turn Disappointing/develop bicycle-specific amnesia & forget how to ride….
by Sarah Connolly on Jan 31, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
Yep, all those boxes have been ticked by riders I’ve picked in other games. Damn Captain Dotty.
Death before decaf! :D
- gavia
I am still never forgiving David Arroyo
for forgetting the reason we hire Spanish climbers is to, well, climb….
by Sarah Connolly on Jan 31, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, the "rider x has been fired from your team" message
is so cruel. It broke my heart. My brain never beats my heart in these kind of games, so best I can do is a compromise (good riders who I like).
Death before decaf! :D
- gavia
I need 9 cheap dopers
get looking people.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Thomas Dekker
2 points, suspension up this year I think (no team yet though)
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Already got him
expecting huge things like a Vuelta win
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
I think I'm going to pick Popo because I can see the obvious
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Wikipedia claims......
The Monaco Cycling Federation, where Dekker holds his racing license, announced on March 3, 2010 that Dekker has been suspended for two years, until July 1, 2011……
Soli Deo Gloria
Yes, that's true.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Must be using the DiLuca model calendar.
The skills really do go away if not practiced, and I don't mean to brag but I was getting very mediocre. - Tejay Van Garderen
Here’s some Polish ex-doper
http://podiumcafevds.com/riders.php?y=2011&id=1966
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh excellent
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Patrik Sinkewitz
http://podiumcafevds.com/riders.php?y=2011&id=1250
Iban Mayo is hireable w/o a team.
http://podiumcafevds.com/riders.php?y=2011&id=1775
Andrey Kashechkin
http://podiumcafevds.com/riders.php?y=2011&id=1373
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
whoops, I confused iban mayo and iban mayoz
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy Casper
http://podiumcafevds.com/riders.php?y=2011&id=1585
Fofonov
http://podiumcafevds.com/riders.php?y=2011&id=1107
The Chicken is you ask the powers that be to add him
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Casper doesn't count.
Use Stefan Van Dijk….he once drove away from his house to evade doping control, in plain view of the doctor, and then said he wasn’t home. Banned for a year.
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 30, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
You're right; Casper doesn't count
I was just going down a list of doping cases and seeing if the riders were still active.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Shit...
I may have inadvertently employed a whole heap of dodgy riders. I have on former doper, a few with question marks, but I didn’t know that about Van Dijk.
"...and that's my two cents"
I have 3 along with one question mark. They did there time so no point in not reaping their VDS points
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 30, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
I tend to go with public opinion actually.
I probably wouldn’t put Vino on in case it were frowned upon. It is pathetic, though. I personally am pro Vino if anything. He was one of the better value GC guys IMO.
"...and that's my two cents"
had vino last year, loved it
not so sure he is worth it this year though. If a doper scores points I cannot see myself regretting it, but picking a doper that rode terribly all year would probably make me mad at myself and him.
I now have 20 riders
I will likely have to email ted to add chicken and schumacher
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Can't confirm Carlos Andres Martinez Montero, but if that's correct, here's a valid 150-point team of ex-dopers:
Alexandre Vinokourov 18
Alessandro Petacchi 16
Michele Scarponi 16
Ivan Basso 16
Riccardo Ricco 16
Danilo Di Luca 12
Bjorn Leukemans 10
Stefano Garzelli 8
David Millar 8
Danilo Hondo 6
Emanuele Sella 4
Patrik Sinkewitz 4
Thomas Dekker 2
Andre Kashechkin 2
Evgeni Petrov 2
Francisco Perez Sanchez 1
Tristan Valentin 1
Francisco Javier (Paxti) Vila Errandonea 1
Iljo Keisse 1
Simone Masciarelli 1
Francesco Di Paolo 1
Alessandro Spezialetti 1
Dmitri Fofonov 1
Rafal Ratajczyk 1
Carlos Andres Martinez Montero 1
150
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Valid?
Could make for some interesting Team Name choices though.
"Does that mean over or resolved?" Arkady Renko
by frans verbiage on Jan 30, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
How 'bout......" It's in the Bag"
Soli Deo Gloria
by LooseHorse on Jan 30, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking
Brooklyn Dodgys.
"Does that mean over or resolved?" Arkady Renko
by frans verbiage on Jan 30, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
My team name is "syringe binge"
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Nice!
Good luck tying off.
"Does that mean over or resolved?" Arkady Renko
by frans verbiage on Jan 30, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
You got to leave room for Rasmussen
How could one build a ex-dopers team and not?
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Remember, Leipheimer served a doping sentence too in the '90s
He’s only 6
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Rasmussen wasn't available when I started putting this together.
Had just 3 spaces left to fill when I went off to make dinner, and they were all 1-pointers.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
The rules state that Alessandro Colo is a doper,
Got to have a place for him.
The skills really do go away if not practiced, and I don't mean to brag but I was getting very mediocre. - Tejay Van Garderen
If you want him, make a case and convince Ted to add him.
Looks like he’ll be back at the end of May. But as far as I can tell, he’s never made a VDS point.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
sad to say...that team might do really well.
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 30, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he likes having the summer off?
I wondered why I couldn’t find anything, but I didn’t look all that hard.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
I think he must of had an agreement with Colombia es Pasion b/c other guys on the team did the same thing
I think so that they can allow other guys a chance to ride every year or something.
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 31, 2011 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
The GC riders look like they'll score high.
Di Luca and then Garzelli down, not so much.
"...and that's my two cents"
Yes must have been
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Throw caution to the wind like I did
Don’t take more than 30 minutes to do your team. With 25 riders, that gives you 5 whole minutes to come up with a clever name.
My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia
I am going to dominate the Giro(only thing I care about)
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
You mean 31...and yeah, they all ready moved Kritskiy down
He was still recovering from a horrific crash from the fall of 2009
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 31, 2011 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
Aren't you allowed 28 + 2 neo-pros?
So DiLuca would have been 29
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 31, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...Kritskiy wasn't a neo-pro. Problem solved.
He was originally on the roster but was moved down to the feeder team again to get his groove back after loosing a whole year.
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 31, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
Plus they have 2 neo-pro's two...Petr Ignatenko and one of the greatest cycling names ever
Arkimedes Arguelyes Rodriges. They have a roster of 30 right now so all good.
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 31, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
Let's see
- Ricco
- Garzelli
- Scarponi
- DiLuca
- Sella
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Team is done. Let's just say I won't threaten the top 100
for the year long competition, but March/April (and Oct) will be fun.
by Peter Fontecchio on Jan 30, 2011 5:55 PM EST reply actions
Alright
my team is in. 25 ex-dopers. I have never felt this good about my team…EVA.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Ricco or Porte
if you had to pick a 16 pointer (and had no morals).
Ricco
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Recall...
…porte is probably the SBS GT leader now.
Being their grand tour leader makes him less likely to score in my mind
He’s a rider for the future, but too much pressure to perform in Grand Tours will hurt him. He should win week long tours for a year and hilly one day races.
For comparison, if neutralize the break away stage, Mollema and Porte did about equally well.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Recall...
Riccardo Ricco has actually won…a lot. And that includes after he returned last season. Now I will gauge out my eyes for supporting Riccardo Ricco.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
And now, he has ProTeam invites
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. I've been thinking that RR is likely the real deal...
…since late last year. I still don’t know if he can TT well enough to win GTs, but he’s likely got everything else.
You don't really have to TT well to win this year's Giro
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
needs to avoid parked cars tho
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jan 30, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Also, just hire another rider for the Giro
So you can cheer for a non-Ricco rider while watching
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Ricco
Porte needs another 13 minute break to go top 10 this year
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 30, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
In imaginary land where Stage 11 didn't exist
He would have been about 10th my imaginary scorecard where every put in an identical performance except Stage11th.
GC would be (roughly)
Basso
Nibali
Scarponi
Evans
Vino
Sastre
Pinotti
Arroyo
Cunego
Porte
Kiserlovski
Mollema
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Man, I can't type. "about 10th ON my imaginary score where EVERYONE"
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ricco!
First, he is way more amusing to watch. Second, Porte will struggle to get as many points, while Ricco has more time to race this year and should be stronger.
My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia
by Douglas Ansel on Jan 30, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Count Christian Prudhomme among the people of power and persuasion who understand the importance of VDS
Why else would he have announced the Tour wildcards so early.
The skills really do go away if not practiced, and I don't mean to brag but I was getting very mediocre. - Tejay Van Garderen
Don't let it talk you into Coppel
10-15th in the Tour does not a 4 point VDS rider make. Especially when you’re team is only invited to French races (not including Paris-Nice!)
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 30, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
He's young, should/might improve.
There is a reason so many people like him, they don’t like to be told “I told you so” at the end of the year. And ranked 69 by CQ while VDS puts him at 125 at best doesn’t hurt.
The skills really do go away if not practiced, and I don't mean to brag but I was getting very mediocre. - Tejay Van Garderen
I think he's a great rider
I just think VDS does not include most of the events in which he will shine. Even a great for him placing in the Tour won’t net that many VDS points.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 31, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I find myself picking a lot of QSers and wanting more
and too may Lampre’s…3! I feel dirty now. If I break 10k, I’ll be happy enough.
I have to talk myself out of some of the Vacansoleil guys
to avoid having too many. I never realized I favored the team or thought as highly of some of the riders until VDS. Strange experience.
Damn You Ted!
Do you know how long it’s going to take to hire and fire everyone just to see how many “special” messages you have made in the confirmation window.
:)
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
If you don't hire a single Rabo-rider, the app asks you:
“Are you sure? Breukink is a great manager. He won that Gavia-stage in the Giro you know.”
My bags are guaranteed sand-free.
As if anyone would submit a team without Lars Boom.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
I find your lack of faith in the Coming Dutch Hegemony disturbing.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
I remember sandbagging about my team this time last year
Well, I thought I was sandbagging, but it was in fact the only tip I got right.
This time I have every excuse for saying that I’m headed for the bottom end. So I put together a team and just submitted it. No agonising. No hand-wringing. What difference would it make?
Looking at what i have so far, you and i might be trading places this year.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What is a public email, what is it good for and why do i need it to sign up? I don’t want my email to be public.
As I understand it,
it’s just to verify that your membership on this site uses the same email address that you’re using on the VDS site. Once it’s verified you can hide it from view.
And the UCI failed… on all accounts. - tgsgirl
by omnevelnihil on Jan 31, 2011 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
Not exactly,
in fact it is just used to send the VDS password, see my reply below. The reason we have to go through this hoopla is that our little sideshow VDS website doesn’t have access to the SBN user account database.
Yet...
you meant to say ‘yet’, right? After all next stop after VDS is world domination. Pretty sure that’s in the rules somewhere.
And the UCI failed… on all accounts. - tgsgirl
by omnevelnihil on Jan 31, 2011 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
"Public email" is a working email address listed on
your SBN profile page. If you click “Edit Profile” on the top right, one of the text boxes is labeled “Public Email.” Enter your email address there and save the profile, then go back to the VDS sign-up. Don’t worry, the profile page encrypts your address so it will NOT be picked up by email harvesting bots for spam. But it is readable by humans, yes. So after you complete the sign-up process and the VDS password is sent to that same email address, you may remove it from your profile again.
I had a "remove this" in mine.
Had to to some opening, closing and waiting for the new one to show up, rather than the “manual remove” version. So plan on a little frustration if you have to update your e-mail after an old or wrong one has already shown up in the VDS “automatic e-mail grab” field.
"dumped for Greipel?!"
I updated the Reset button functionality
Just click Reset and re-enter your username to reload the email from your profile.
Keeping your "real" email address 100% private.
Create a new email address using the public domain stuff:
Gmail
Hotmail
Yahoo
etc.
use that to get your password from VDS.
A Snowball's Chance in Hell has this thing locked up - or not.
Regardless, be afraid, very, very afraid. I actually did about 20 minutes of homework on this yesterday.
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
...and then I ignored all my good sense and just picked guys I like again.
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
oh - and a shout out to Phil - Good luck with the doper's.
I considered doing that this year, but couldn’t get myself there. I do have one “reformed” rider, and it is enough. It took real courage to do what you did (or enormous stupidity). I shall have a lot of fun seeing how your guys perform.
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
Don't like to pick dopers, but finding a good prospect for the Giro without
picking high flying Nibali and past sinners is tough imo.
Anton is doing the Giro
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Jan 31, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure I have irritated dozens and dozens of folks and no one has nasty grammed me yet...
It’s cool…
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
Check your email. :D
The skills really do go away if not practiced, and I don't mean to brag but I was getting very mediocre. - Tejay Van Garderen
Hate mail is like a hug!
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Torture! Poor torture!
I keep hiring and firing guys left and right!
I just found pretty good 2 pointer, was very happy about that, then I saw that his already on my team!
When! How? Maybe I was sleepwalking at night to my computer?
Must Resist To Start All Over Again!
For advise of how NOT to build your team call (800) VDS – ADDICT
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Just hire all riders from vacansoleil like we know you want to do and call it a day...
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Did that already in my draft #16!
But then I and White Capricorn had long discussion… and to make long story short, I am currently on the draft #22. He he!
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
See that's your problem...the white capricorn isn't nearly as smart as the white unicorn ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Holm's is so easy to love with his English gaffs!
:)
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
oh, and here's my advice (foolproof):
Print out the list of riders. Get a dart and dart board. Toss dart at list. Repeat till team is picked.
If you only need a rider of a certain value – toss dart solely at list of that value. (it’s genius, I know).
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Hey! How did you know?
That was my draft #2
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Did I say Capricorn? See I loosing it!
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Breathe holmovka!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
The Pressure!
The pressure to win! Does anyone knows PED dealer?
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
I think we could find a PDE dealer (Performance De-Enhancing)...maybe this would be more helpful for you right now.
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Or just do the opposite of whatever I do, and your team will be fine.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Can’t do opposite of what you do.
Cause Barbie, Barbie is prominent player on my team, also!
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Performance De Enhancing? I think I know one…
Ops! I am in the wrong State.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Thanks Ted....Great lotta phun ya got going here
need to talk at ya ’bout doing a similar VDS thing with my local coffee shop ( on the route of QPC) during Tdf.
May I use your riders list, format, et.al.? Will probably use a chalk board at the shop – maybe 20 folks involved.
Soli Deo Gloria
Technically,
the format is owned by Sports Blogs Inc. (aka. SBN). Or at least, that is what they like to think ;) Ask Chris via mail how to proceed. I can’t imagine using the public rider list for your own entertainment to be any problem at all.
All rights reserved!
But I can’t imagine what would stop you from making up your own game with the same names and numbers.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, since it's cycling season
did you see that the US is shutting down its atom smasher for lack of funds? [politics omitted…]
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions
You've won this round, LHC...
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
It's not doing anything important anyway
All that money just to smash stuff. I’ll do it with a hammer for half the cost.
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
Is it ok that my wife and nephew join the fun?
Or is this like those sweepstakes where only one member per household can play? :)
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Multiple household members
can play. But a) we DO rely on the honor system here, and b) you might get some emails from us when we see multiple teams from the same IP address.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
After the way they both trounced me last year
I insist you forbid my husband and son from playing ever again.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Done
For added effect I am wagging my finger in an easterly direction.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Beer of your choice, next time we meet.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Chris, on a completely unrelated note
Is it ok if I enter teams for my two friends “Professor Indiana” and “SweDalek” ? They are having problems with their computer.
My bags are guaranteed sand-free.
And on a completely, completely unrelated note
It’s been an extremely long time since the last Cabin Boy adventure, hasn’t it?
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Sounds great!
Cabin Boy Skip meets his hero Cabin Boy Jens and they both learn some valuable lessons.
And the UCI failed… on all accounts. - tgsgirl
by omnevelnihil on Jan 31, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
"Not safe for wallet" again?
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jan 31, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
That's right--all donations to the usual account.
Jens, I’ll send you the buyout figure soon.
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
Hey
if you need five different ways to lose, I won’t stop you.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ok thanks for letting me know. I'm sure I will think about my team too much and my wife
will some how design a team that destroys mine. Maybe I should just them them they can’t play. hahaha
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Conclusion from past years--
Cute butts contain lots of good muscle, and are therefore not a totally silly way to pick a team.
Plus, team-picking on that basis will likely put wife in a good mood and increase her rider interest. That’s a win-win.
"dumped for Greipel?!"
let me guess cqbuttranking.com is the "cute butt" authority - similar to Cycling Quotient?
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
ranking was not possible
due to a certain swiss guy skewing the curve. So to speak.
"dumped for Greipel?!"
He crushes rankings between his cheeks?
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
How about my houseplant?
(It probably has a better chance of picking a winning team than I do)
by Sarah Connolly on Jan 31, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
We'll need a urine test from the houseplant first. Have to be sure it's not on Miracle Gro.
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
adding, seriously
don’t try to have more than one team, anyone. Trust me, it’s totally dissatisfying. With one team, you care who wins each race, which is something like 98% of the reason to play (don’t ask about the other 2%). With more than one team, you have riders competing against your other riders and it’s pretty hard to care for more than like 10 minutes.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
What about the other 2%?
Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
-Orwell, Politics and the English Language
www.battleredblog.com
by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 31, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well
it varies from person to person, but a few items include vanity, greed, spite, boredom, and a handful of personality disorders.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I vote for personality disorders.
Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
-Orwell, Politics and the English Language
www.battleredblog.com
by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 31, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry. They are already spoken for.
The skills really do go away if not practiced, and I don't mean to brag but I was getting very mediocre. - Tejay Van Garderen
but having more than one team isn't against the rules, is it?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
silly rule
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i'm sure there is some convoluted reason for it
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
well
like I said above it kills the joy some (or a lot) to have multiple teams, IMHO. But if you allow it, then people will do it, and it becomes like the old hematocrit limit — if everyone has multiple teams, then you can’t compete unless you do too. So it basically destroys the game.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
piffle
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Really?
A lot of the fun of picking a team is having to decide who to keep and who not to keep. If I could make as many teams as I wanted and keep everyone, the whole experience would be less enjoyable. But of course, everyone has different tastes.
btw- had to look up piffle, never heard it before.
"It was getting colder and colder as we went up. About halfway up, I started to go a little backwards and as I passed Thor he looked at me and said, "If you lose my wheel I will smash you." I took his wheel and found an extra gear." João Correia
piffle to your piffle
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
It's ludicrous
that ONE person gets ONE team? That’s the challenge of the game, to make the best picks on your one attempt to try to get the best results. Or in my case to pick dopers to beat my score of the last year.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
If you want to make more than one team, do it on your own time and own resources
Just don’t complain about it since there isn’t anything to complain about. I could make 20 teams and I would feel stupid and taking it way too seriously…I would have no personal connection to my team otherwise.
Is this where we beat up on umwolverine?
I had to look up piffle too, btw.
That is all. You’re entitled to your opinion. As for me, if I even tried to pick another team, I would waste away another work day and get nothing accomplished at all.
Wait a minute – picking another team sounds like a brilliant idea!
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
I thought it was so that we convince other people to play.
I’m betting several people have gotten involved because they were tired of hearing the agonizing over “I can only pick one rider from this top bunch, and I really want two of them.”
"dumped for Greipel?!"
Am I reading the rules correctly
Winning the Points Jersey gets more VDS points than winning the Polka Dot (or KOM) jerseys???
I don’t mean to be a baby, but this is flat-lander elitism
moo
You look so cute in that picture!
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
That's some serious bow leggedness there...How do you ride a bike like that?
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
by JustJoshinYa on Jan 31, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
laying off
the patches?
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
baby
Oh, and the green and spots are worth more $$ in real life than the white. I wonder, do they think the kids won’t be able to handle the money as well?
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
no
In the TdF they are 25,000 € for the winner of bothe the dots and the points — Green has more checkpoints so in total more green EUROS
moo
yep
On the serious side, I could go into a long diatribe as to why I’ve lost the love for the KOM, but it is still the coolest-looking jersey in sports.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Sminer: I blame KARMA for everything.
Jens: I've heard it's a bitch
Water Girl: I heard it ran over your dogma
Just about to pull the trigger.
And in VDS, like all things in my life, mediocrity will be mine.
Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
-Orwell, Politics and the English Language
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jan 31, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions
What are the exact rules when a rider gets (temporary) suspended for doping usage?
Can these rules be explained again, preferably on the rules pages of podiumcafevds?
This in order to avoid (new) discussions afterwards like at the end of last year’s season when AC got suspended.
the points stand
until the rider’s federation has taken an action.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 31, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
And once a rider get officially suspended by his federation...
… will all of his points disappear?
… or only the ones earned in / since the race in which he got a positive control?
I think it follow the federation's lead
VDS wipes out whatever the federation wipes out.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by lieutenantmudd on Feb 1, 2011 7:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think Frank's picking the likes of Ricco, Diluca, et all...
:)
"I briefly played on a soccer team where we took great joy yelling 'come on fuschia'" by Willj
and
typically it’s only from the positive test forward. A positive on x day doesn’t serve as evidence of earlier doping.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 1, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Except in stage races, right?
It definitely got played into the ground. Even I was flinching after a while--Tyler Farrar, on that Transitions ad.
as in,
does it nullify the whole stage race? I think we can go with yes. In real life that might not be so, but we do have discretion here.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 6, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Done!
Have to ask my daughter to press the submit button, before I can start changing something again!
Done! Submitted! Confirmed!
Now it is time to pat myself on the head, and eat celebratory donut!
By the way I am regretting half of the picks already. Ha Ha!
Oh well, it is too late!
Now bring on some Racing! And lets kick some but! Mine?
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Injuries? What injuries?
My guys made from steel! Or in case of the Cycling team,probably
from carbon.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Well, that was a big mistake
Can you please name your riders so we can give them and their collarbones fair warning before the Tour of Qatar? Those jinxed bastards are so screwed.
My bags are guaranteed sand-free.
No way!
I have a secret agreement with Ted, my team will remain hidden till the end of the competition, or maybe even longer! He He!
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
So your team's name doesn't give anything away?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ok! You got me there.
Now you know one of 25.And I can name at least 3 of yours, I think.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
More like ten, but I'm struggling to make room for Klodi!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Maybe in the Team’s names competition.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
Can you go and watch some legs of the Giro?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ha! What social life, from February till October?
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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Can I still look at my last year's team anywhere?
I don’t think I’ve kept it and I want to see what proportion of people worth certain numbers of points I had before…. The first draft I just drew up isn’t as good I’m sure :-/
De cross gaat door!
I pushed the button
and immediately had chest tightness knowing that I messed up some how and will be relegated to the bottom 10% of the standings.
Let the pain and suffering begin, and may my dopers not get caught this season.
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
well, my team is pretty set. but, i'm waiting to see who gets injured prior to omloop.
and, whether RCS will be nice and annouce the giro invites before march 7th. ha!
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
OMG, what have I done!!!
I hit submit…. why did I hit submit already? Oh noooos, this is all a horrible mistake. What if… what if…
Oh well, too late now. Nothing to do but keep my fingers crossed.
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