Giro d'Italia 2012 Presentation LIVE
by Jens on Oct 16, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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Barely did we put the 2011 season to bed with Il Lombardia before it's time to mock look forward to 2012. The presentation of the 2012 Giro route will no doubt be packed with glitz, glamour, scantily clad models and hairgel. Lots of hairgel. Don't miss it.
Live video: 15:00 CEST (09:00 US EDT, 00:00 AUS EDT)
Video: Livestreaming worldwide via the excellent GazzettaTV
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right on time i see
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Morning! Is this it, with the deaf translation?
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
no. that was the news
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Yeah, this is it now.
Starting with a tribute to Wouter Weylandt.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
All those shots were taken a couple of days ago at the spot where he crashed
it’s turned into a little shrine
punctuality not a strong point
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I'm so sick of Di Stefano as a studio host
get her back to interviews where a motormouth is an asset
ai yi yi yi yi ... nieve. fail.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Guardini. Bah. I expected better than 50 points.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
yes. he needs to practice going up those inclines... not quite as bad as quaranta
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i don't know. considering what they're wearing...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Very shiny suit, that, JVDB...
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
stands to reason
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
hoogerland a no-show?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Hoogerland: "The Rambo of the bicycle"
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
Edvald!
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
hey, eddie, slide down to the other end of the bench there
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Saving room for Thor?
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
everyone else entered and then went to the far left, you know, so the next one wouldn't have to cross in front of the person
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no seat for conta?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Cav!
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
el matador? oh-kay. why not.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Judging by the twitpics from @giroditalia
he and Nibali were backstage, still arguing about who should pull on the Zoncolan
ha
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
come on dudes, let's hurry this along. i have to go out to the grocery store.
well, at least this is killing time to let it warm up a bit more outside.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
giro route presentation rates lower than leopard trek team presentation
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Not enough acrobats.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
oh, seriously, conta's not in there is he?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
oy vey
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
LOL
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
well, more a cylinder than a ball
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
he'll ride tirreno instead
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
so, three stages in denmark? ITT and two flat
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4-6 aren't much to speak of either
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
finally, an uphill
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Wow. Stage 5 looks like the most boring stage ever
Imagine having to stay awake while riding that!
I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.
Dang, did Will recon the "new" Mortirolo route they are using?
Do we need to send him on a new recon? And more importantly, will he give me a rikshaw ride up the new route?
Sterrato is an understatement
The first 8km are “tarmaced” then at you get to this point
Or seen from the close up
And that continues for 3km, with patches also reaching 20%. The one promise they made was that all descents are on proper roads. Well apart from the promise that a bit further on it will be in slightly better condition than it is now come Giro time
looks fun!
I have descended the side they will descend and it’s generally a fair bit wider than the ascent, or the tradiotinal lower Mortirolo ascent. But still pretty crazy for a race at times
moo
And does Flanders have a synth playing Becco?
thought not
Some say they used to...
…but he disappeared, oh, about the time of the great PdC meetup of 2010.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Maybe this would be more interesting if I understood Italian.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Wait...was that Girobecco on guitar?
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
If I were RCS
he would be the MC
De cross gaat out that door.
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 16, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The final three days are epic but the rest of course... meh
Guess they didn’t want a repeat of last year with Contador crushing everyone by stage 9… That Lecco uphill finish looks like the Plancher des Belles Filles in the Tour and they don’t have anything as good as the Grand Colombier or the Glandon in the middle of the race. But yeah, the last three days should bring more fireworks than Toulouse-Brive, Brive TT and Champs Elysées…
Looks more like a typical Tour route than Giro
oh but it’s so much more “humane”. Gah give me back Zome instead of this sprinter lover.
/rant over
"Weltmeister!!" Zwei mal: 2010-2011...und weiter gehts
meh meh meh
The course has two epic stages, six other stages that end uphill in some fashion and a few more lumpy stages. Plus it has stages for those that like sprints.
I refuse to think this won’t make for every bit as exciting racing as other years. It will just include more riders than the pure climbers is all. And since that tends to be a pretty suspect group I can’t say that is an entirely bad idea either.
This is why I was a bit concerned at the presentation
They really had all the focus and publicity aimed at that stage. That seems totally crazy (with the Ventoux 2009 in mind) to make everything a buildup to one single HUGE stage. Especially when it may all get snow-cancelled.
In the restaurant at the top of Gavia they have a gallery of photos celebrating some of the crazy Gavia snow stages. But it’s hard to image that THESE DAYS they would allow a stage in weather like this:
moo
I suppose it might be an advantage that it's a MTF = no descent?
They may accept a little worse conditions then. Let’s hope it never becomes an issue though.
yeah, that's a very good point.
They might ban fans if too slippery so you and I will need to camp over nite at the top. #amundsenstyle
moo
I bet you don't want to hear me say the line:
“Beccos…… and I thought they smelled bad…….on the outside”
They can always do a blockhaus and cut off 10km or so of the finish
"Weltmeister!!" Zwei mal: 2010-2011...und weiter gehts
Breukink?
Why are they talking about him?
De cross gaat out that door.
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 17, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I can out meh you Jens
I can also pretty much guarantee the first two uphill finishes will see no significance whatsoever. What has made the Giro so exciting(for me at least) are the fun mid mountain days littered in between big mountain days. They have completely negated Montelupone by, in typical Tour style, putting it 40km out and except for that there is one other intermediate day. There are way too many days without some type of challenge which could shake things up within the stage. Yes the last 5 mountain stages look epic, but two weeks of a sleeper to get to them is not what the Giro is about. And yes I realize the GC race is often back loaded in the Giro, I’m not annoyed by that, it’s the excitement of individual stages that I’m not seeing here. They should have at least put in another long ITT somewhere.
"Weltmeister!!" Zwei mal: 2010-2011...und weiter gehts
I dunno how this differs?
After the flat start in Denmark which is bound to be dull except for the big crowds and the enthusiasm you have the TTT where the favs will need to make a bit of a mark. Then a sprint followed by a lumpy breakaway stage. After that you get a pedalibile MTF on stage 7 just like Montevergine last year, a stage 8 with a short but steep section in the climb near the finish which will be a great launchpad.
Sure there is no Etna equivalent but there is still challenging terrain at the Cinque Terre before all hell breaks lose on st 14 to Cervinia. I just don’t see the huge problem. Nothing is fucked here dude.
There are too many predictable stages
even those with little uphill kicks at the end are dead flat otherwise. I don’t care for that, I can make up my mind about how I like the Giro by myself thank you.
"Weltmeister!!" Zwei mal: 2010-2011...und weiter gehts
What one person sees someone else does not
fwiw I find the last week to be exquisite and I bet the route will be better than the Tour and Vuelta.
"Weltmeister!!" Zwei mal: 2010-2011...und weiter gehts
The only reason
Cipo and Alejet are still on the same page as Cavendish when discussing who is the best recent sprinter is sprint friendly giro stages
Where are the fashion screenshots?! Bah!
So what were my boys wearing? Was it really bad? :O
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Guardini was there? Nice! I've seen him look dapper in a suit before.
Please tell me about Nieve…
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
no. you really really don't want to know. anton was barely better.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I feel like I NEED to see. And then apply for a job as their style advisor.
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Cav was appallingly dressed.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
no. not really. a bit monochromatic, that's all.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Eye of the beholder um...appalling in my eyes ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Some stages look HARDER than this past year
The final week looks MUCH harder than this past year’s. Also, once again we have a gazillion summit finishes, though not all are on the hardest of climbs
summit finishes or near summit finishes
stage 7
stage 8
stage 10
stage 14
stage 15
stage 16
stage 19
stage 20
a couple are “hilltop”, but this should still be a climbers tour. Nothing like 19 or 20 in last year’s giro. Would have been had Crostis not have been cancelled
Definitely lots of hilltops
As Phil said, Montelupone looks wasted.
Stage 7, big ring all along as it’s a steady 5%. Stage 8 is somewhat interesting as it has 2km at 10% but followed by almost 5 km of flat run-in to the finish. 10 they don’t even give you a profile, it looks like 280 m in 8 km, so probably nothing over 5% max.
The Cinque Terre stage (12) actually looks really good with probably a lot of small roads and a nice downhill finish.
Stage 14 (Cervinia) has a rolling col de Joux and then Cervinia has a 5.5% average with about 1.5 km at 8% in the middle…
So before the Il Lombardi stage (15), you should still have a LOT of riders within a minute or so of each other, which I guess could provide very exciting racing but everybody will just wait the real mountains as they will all believe they can be a contender…
The Tour route looks a lot more balanced and is just missing a tough HC MTF in the Pyrénées IMO…
by FrenchKheldar on Oct 16, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If Contador would ride
He’d take quite a bit of time on those smaller mountain stages as he did on the initial mountain stages this year
the problem is, those who likely will race the giro tend to be Schleck to the extreme in that they won’t attack until the final km of a major mountain stage
OK a few fashion shots
Jose Rujano ready not to be dazzled by all those lights
did Mikel Nieve spill something on his lap?
Dan Martin clearly has been shopping with Brad Wiggins. Just say no to V-necks, please
did Oscar Gatto knit this jacket himself?
Is the Little Prince heading off next to audition for Grease?
If you're going to do this to your champions
then why not go the whole hog and dangle them upside down from a pole and wearing a lycra thong
Although what I was really hoping was that the mechanism would jam and leave him stuck up there. Until he summoned his magic cow to fly down, I guess
Ha! Great shots and commentary.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Well said, although I think Cav was marginally more tragic. Contador looked lovely!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Did Thor borrow his taller brother's trousers?
Or did he just shrink in stature after losing the rainbow?
(note to self: if Thor really has a taller brother, GO FIND PICTURES)
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Holy family resemblance, Batman!
Ronny Hushovd:
(and may I just say to their parents…naming one kid “Thor” and another one “Ronny”? That’s just cruel.)
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Well Thor will be in no doubt about how he'll look years from now. (I wonder how many years.)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
3.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Ouch...big ouch actually.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That's hilarious.
I was just thinking this
vs. this
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
Good God, did we really export the Two Ronnies to the rest of the world
I had thought that the Worm that Turned, The Phantom Raspberry Blower of Old London Town and Manhattan Transfer singing Chanson d’Amour (rat-ta-ta-tat-tat) were our own personal embarassments.
Well, to Canada, anyway.
Vermont gets several Canadian TV stations—not sure if the states further south had the privilege.
It would be better to get the important stuff out of the way first. Such as: will your riders still wear scarves next year?--Gerard Vroomen
master thesis as a pdf-file
Here.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Oct 17, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
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