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Winter is here...! What to wear for a ride?



No sorry ladies is not a fashion show, wait it could be one too..!!! What to wear during winter rides is and is not a fashion design contest, but certainly is a problem..! For the ones that live in cold to freezing places at least....

As I went for my weekend ride today (Sunday) I realized it was a bit colder then usual but I also thought it will go away as I hit the first climb, (here was the first mistake) Well it never got very warm but as I was climbing one of my local hills I broke in sweat (trying to beat the best time) Yes I was warmer..!!! Guess what? That was to me the second mistake..!

As I started to come down I noticed that all that sweat started to get really cold, not ice cube but crap it was cold....! It should go away when I reach the flat and start working again,... It made sense at that point... Nop it wasn't any warmer in the flat... Is ok..! A few more Km/miles and I hit the second climb..!

Second climb yeaaahhhh...! (finally I will get over this cold in my back and chest) I did it...!!! For about 10 minutes that is how long the climb lasted. Again I was sweating... Not good when is time to start coming down... Ok now there is another problem... Where are my feet? Can't feel them..! Story short end up walking for a few block until I got feeling back in my toes..! It really stunk..!

So I want you to share your wisdom with those like me on that way we don't have to read about someone like me anymore... So according to your experience....

What should someone wear during a cold ride? Suggestion? Opinions? Thanks..!

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It was cold today - 17 here when I went out...

I wear one of these:

(Gore Phantom jacket – the sleeves zip off, but not in the Winter…)

And on a cold day like today, a wicking long sleeve shirt (and sometimes an additional short sleeve under that). When it’s 20-30 degrees, a single layer under it is fine. Insulated tights (I have a relatively cheap Nashbar pair that does the job); wool socks, my mountain bike shoes, and covers (a must to keep toes warm). Cold day like today, my gloves didn’t cut it and my fingers froze (time for new ones). Neck warmer, pulled up over chin – let the nose peek out – cap under my helmet…I stayed warm after I got moving, but hands froze – I don’t like big gloves, but 17 degrees is cold for soft shells…

by JustJoshinYa on Dec 18, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

I'm proud of you too.

Jens! would be too I imagine.

Flahutes: Harden the F--k Up!

by bobgade on Dec 19, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks JJY..!

You should be proud.. Not easy to get out there and ride anything…

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 19, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Pieter's liking these (moose mitt drop bar version) in IA.

here, scroll down. Not as snuggly as full pogies, but a big help. For a commuter bike with non-drop bars, go for the regular pogies if you’ll be biking into the negative digits farenheit. (You’ll still want some glove if you leave the pogies parked on the bike outside, though!)

"It is unfortunate that the Wall is not plugged in correctly."

by JFS_PGH on Dec 28, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's as cold and as windy as on a ski slope (or if you go fast enough)

ski goggles work. Pieter commutes in them.

Head: there’s a limit to how much you can fit under a helmet, so consider a) taping over some vents if it’s an older helmet b) getting a multi-sport hemet that meets standards for cycling, with far fewer vents and built in padding or c) you’ll sometimes find either a stand-alone parka hood or a parka that’s shot, but the hood is still good, which a bit of cutting, sewing, and new velcro can turn into an over-helmet hood.

"It is unfortunate that the Wall is not plugged in correctly."

by JFS_PGH on Dec 28, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

This ones look soo nice...!

Know someone that uses them and say is a must have during winter..!

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 28, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Best trick I've learned for keeping your toes warm

Remove the soles of your shoes. Gives your feet more room to wiggle, hence staying warm. I used to put on thick wool socks, then heavy gore-tex slip overs and my feet still froze. Once I took out the soles and didn’t tighten my shoes so tight, my feet stayed warm.

PopUp – we need your orange asterisk thingy back.

by PopUp Rolen on Dec 18, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

+1, on not tightening shoes as much

I won’t take insoles out, they have anatomical features that would hurt my feet more than frozen toes would if I removed them! But, wiggle room = easier to keep warm.

I NEED MOAR MUD

by Douglas Ansel on Dec 18, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Easy enough to try..!! And cheap too..!

Won’t cost much to try so… Thanks for it..!

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 19, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Only tried it a couple of times,

but some shoe covers will work over birkenstocks with two layers of thick wool socks. That’s the ultimate in “loft” (and the cork in the soles insulates pretty well, too) but of course the covers have to be good enough to stop all the wind. You can’t clip in, obv, unless you want to get mighty creative on the soles of a pair of birks, but if you still have platform pedals somewhere… try it.

"It is unfortunate that the Wall is not plugged in correctly."

by JFS_PGH on Dec 28, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple of thoughts

I’ve been riding in the midwestern winters for 2 years now and have a hard time keeping a tall/thin frame warm. So here’s what I’ve learned.

1) Your extremeties will never stay warm unless your core is warm. Not bearable or just comfortable, but WARM.

2) Wind-proof outer layer is a must. Venting areas (armpits, usually) are a plus, but not entirely necessary. Unzip to keep from overheating if climbing or working harder, zip up when not working as hard.

3) Layers layers layers. This applies to gloves too. My favorite cold weather gloves all have ample room inside to put a pair of liners inside without cramming them full. If hands start to get sweaty, remove liners. Sweaty = cold in a very short while.

4) Cover those shoes! If not too cold, an old sock w/ cleat hole cut in the bottom works okay. Below 40-45 degrees and you will want real booties. Lot of good stuff on the market, and cheap stuff from Nashbar, etc, will work 95-100% as well as anything expensive.

Beyond that, experiment with different types / weights base layers and other layers to find what works for you. Everyone’s a bit different.

I NEED MOAR MUD

by Douglas Ansel on Dec 18, 2011 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Amen

As long as it’s dry, you can stay warm. Just stay out of the rain. And remember to unzip every single time you stop.

by broerie on Dec 19, 2011 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Layers!

Most def.

From another thread, we talked about spending $$$ on toes & hands, but there’s definitely some tricks I’ve picked up over the years.
1) Army surplus stores sell 100% wool gloves (to be used as liners, if you’ve got large gloves to wear over) or double up some older gloves. They’re about $6.00 a pair!
2) The latest pair of road shoes I use (Specialized Comp. from 2010) are about 1/2 size too big (w/ultra thin socks), so I can comfortably wear a larger pair of socks with them. Kinda goes along with what PopUp said upthread…more wiggle room. This has been a game changer, seriously. Again, Army surplus wool socks are less than $10/ pair. Coupled with some worn out, bottom of the line, Pearl Izumu minimalist shoe covers and my dogs are good down to 25-30 deg F. or so.
3) Sleeveless wool undershirt (bought in Scotland at a dept. store) is my secret weapon. I like having minimal number of stuff with sleeves on, so if I can keep my core warm with only one layer of sleeves and use my sleeveless wool, maybe a medium weight thermal top (dept. store long johns) and an old, large SS jersey, I’m good for the lower 40’s.

by swells on Dec 19, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Defeet woolie-bullie socks

Everyone differs, but I can ride withou booties or oversocks into the 30s with a pair.

Good advice here.

Brand might be less important than fabric and fit, but tights, knickers, or in roubaix fabric also help. And a good winter cycling jacket or thermal vest. (look for ones without the heavy fabric on the back). I’ve got verge.

by R Mc on Dec 19, 2011 8:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yes

even a lightish wind vest is a very good extra layer addition that helps keep the core warm

moo

by Willj on Dec 19, 2011 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 on Woolie Bullies

I don’t use the booties until temps drop below 30 deg F (-1ish C). My shoes have little air vents on the front of the soles which I cover with duct tape for winter.

"..In Belgium for sure they would try to stop the train."
Peter Van Petegem

by Mr Van P on Dec 20, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It was about 29 or so Sunday here in NJ.... Brrrr.....!

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 20, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

just tried some Pearl woolies today

thinner, but higher cuff.

Stayed plenty warm until the norther really kicked in for the last half-hour of the ride. At which point I noticed that the cool mesh vents on the uppers of the S-works shoes might not be the best winter feature . . .

by R Mc on Dec 22, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

All wise words

I’ll add my 2 cents worth too…

Gloves – I’ve recently been using Pearl Izumi PRO Lobster gloves and am impressed. The gloves themselves are great, but I am equally impressed with the lobster glove concept. Can still shift and brake just fine, and by keeping more fingers together I’m sure they are staying warmer. Caveat: I am yet to test them down into the teens, but they’ve been mighty toasty into the low 20’s so….

Head. I’m a big fan of a neck tunnel plus wool cap combo, versus a balaclava. The former gives you a bunch more options. I would recommend a wool cap with a visor if you plan to ride in snow/rainy conditions. It’s helpful to have the extra protection for your eyes.

Circulation – when it comes to your extremities it really is all about good blood flow. So +10 on allowing more room for your feet within the shoes. Makes a big difference.

Other tidbits.
On really cold rides don’t carry your banana in your back pocket. Frozen banana not so easy to eat while wearing lobster gloves – I’m just saying…..

If you are riding in poor conditions, think heavily about how well lit you are. A good set of lights, and that includes good tail lights are a necessity, especially if you are riding around dawn/dusk and there is snow falling……

Don’t be afraid to “vent”; I’ll often half open the zip on my outer shell to let some cold air in while climbing, just remember to zip up as you summit. That or just climb a little within yourself to avoid sweating up..

Now if only I could shake this cold that is dogging me so that I can get out on my bike!

"Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill" - Fausto Coppi

by muk on Dec 18, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

But chilled banana

Is like banana-split, especially if accompanied by nutella-jelly sandwich.

by R Mc on Dec 19, 2011 8:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

To go along with zip/unzip strategy...

I have a thin shell rain jacket from the “usta team” that I’ll start off in. I can leave it zipped and unzip my jersey underneath for a while, that helps regulate heat.

by swells on Dec 19, 2011 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

AMEN on food tips

When it’s really cold, I tuck cliff bars, etc either in pockets of LS jersey under my jacket, or actually just under the front of my jacket, so they’ll stay thawed. Cliff bars frozen solid are also not so tasty. Nor are any other snacks you may enjoy.

I NEED MOAR MUD

by Douglas Ansel on Dec 19, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Will try to follow your advice

And every ones else too… But I still can’t eat and ride. Well not a big deal I can stop, eat and then keep riding..! Thanks for the tips..!

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 19, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I look like this on my way to work every morning...

Or similar… But I believe is way too heavy to go riding… If it gets too bad I might do it anyways. Now that I think of it, last friday I looked a bit like that.Ride after work.

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 19, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So far I am impressed...!

I knew I hit a gold mine of knowledge… Now by accident I will leave this open on the kitchen table with the pic of the jacket right there… To give ideas to my wife…

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 AM EST reply actions  

Sometimes when it gets really cold here

I’ll wear a short sleeve jersey under my long sleeve jersey.

Yeah, yeah, I’ll do it myself… Shut The Fuck Up Omne!

I'm not just a smartarse. Other parts of me are sometimes clever as well.

by omnevelnihil on Dec 19, 2011 7:48 AM EST reply actions  

I rode for a few years here with an Ozzie. His idea of cold was my idea of fairly warm.

But being an ozzie he knew where all the good coffee shops were …..

moo

by Willj on Dec 19, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

We're not entirely without benefit.

;)

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by omnevelnihil on Dec 19, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ski gloves

A cheap solution is skiing gloves, since I had them lying around already. Only good for sub-zero temps on a long ride, or up to about 5 degrees (centigrade!) on a commute, otherwise they get sweaty and horrible. But really snug and warm when dry.

I will try to use some of the tips here for the feet, mine keep freezing. Especially the left foot (why?)

by papyrus on Dec 19, 2011 8:19 AM EST reply actions  

pff, how cold can it be at sea level?

moo

by Willj on Dec 19, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

ooooh

I’d wear TWO pairs of swim trunks :)

moo

by Willj on Dec 19, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's really cold...

Then you can go the chemically-assisted route. Any department store will have hand/toe warmers in their outdoors/hunting section. I get those and put them over shoes but under booties to keep the toes warm. Also, if it’s really nasty I’ll throw them inside the lobster gloves between liners and lobster shell.

One more thing – when buying winter gloves, bigger is better. More room for air to circulate, heat up, act as an insulating layer, etc.

I NEED MOAR MUD

by Douglas Ansel on Dec 19, 2011 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

chemically assisted route.

I vote for when it’s seriously cold but if you have tight fitting shoes like my sidi’s it maybe counter productive in that you lose circulation. A tip from the Downing brothers which I thought was a wind up until I tried it is this;

socks, aluminium foil, cling film to keep in place. top results.

otherwise I’ve followed the “buy less, buy better” maxim. I’ve found the castelli diluvio overshoes to be brilliant as is the castell espresso jacket. I use adidas techfit for a baselayer and that’s really good too.

by Maratsafin on Dec 19, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

What I meant was put warming packets on outside of shoes

I get the ones with an adhesive backing. I can’t put mine under my shoes either, plus it’d just feel really weird and awkward.

I NEED MOAR MUD

by Douglas Ansel on Dec 19, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Old news paper wrapped feet trick was always working for me.

Shoes of course has to be size or two bigger.

We even stuffed news papers in between of layers of closings on particularly cold days.

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JJY 10/20/11


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by holmovka on Dec 19, 2011 1:47 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Sorry but I can't help it...

Was this like a risk back in the USRR? I mean they very well could think you were trying to infiltrate some new ideas or a secret message…

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 19, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

wool base layer

it doesn’t get all that cold in georgia, but when the temps drop, i reach for the wool.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

old cashmere sweater with holes works well too

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Dec 19, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

neck

I have an obsession with keeping my neck warm, anyone know of any base layer turtlenecks? Maybe I’m not looking hard enough but I can’t find one, I have a very old one that is basically falling apart, when it’s cold I generally wear that with a balaclava to have 2 thin layers on my neck (when it’s really cold I’ll throw a scarf on too). More than one salesperson has told me that no one makes turtlenecks anymore, wonder why.

Re: head: I have a Rapha winter cap, works great. Rapha is ridiculously expensive (I only bought the cap because it was cheap on ebay), but if you can find a similar cap made by someone else, I’d highly recommend it. For really cold days I put a balaclava under the cap, and my head is always warm.

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 21, 2011 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

Patagonia, Helly Hansen and Odlo

I just checked and all of them have a couple of high-neck (not exactly turtle) baselayer shirts, mostly with zipper.

"Beer helps." -- Ant1.

by tedvdw on Dec 21, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah the problem with those is I like the neck that goes right up to the chin, not crazy about these mock turtlenecks, long neck fetish I guess. Thanks for looking though! I’ll definitely check them out. You are a wizard, dude ;)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 21, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ski gear

loads of options if you look at ski clothing. especially if you look at XC gear. castelli do baselayers with a slightly raised neck but might not be high enough.

craft that makes the lay-o-pard gear makes great XC ski stuff, top quality.

by Maratsafin on Dec 21, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a great idea

don’t know why I didn’t think of that, I’m an x-c ski freak (sadly currently living in a place with next to no x-c skiing), and come to think of it the ancient turtleneck I currently own is ski gear. thanks.

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 21, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

every once in a while you'll see a turtleneck dickie in an outdoor catalog

or totally randomly. Unless you’ve got a thick neck, a turtleneck silk dickie ought to be a pretty unisex item, and good for covering the lower neck area where a neck gaiter (the other obvious solution) often leaves a gap.

"It is unfortunate that the Wall is not plugged in correctly."

by JFS_PGH on Dec 28, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

already got plenty of those! hehehe

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 22, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Two thing for my neck

I bought a really cheap Polartec baselayer from REI that zips up at the neck. It’s not cycling specific but works great.I bought it a little big so when fully zipped it comes all the way up my neck. Very comfortable and warm.
For the back of my neck, I just bought one of those thin Craft beanies. That’s a bit big too, so it comes down over my ears and down the back of my neck. Of course, I’m in California so cold for me is not quite the same, on the hand I’m a total wuss about cold, so balance those out

by bdr on Dec 22, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

good tips, thanks mate

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 22, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Back home we have this things....

They are called “necks” is like a scarf but without the hanging parts…

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by pablo777 on Dec 22, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

just make sure it's not this one! ;)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 23, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey ...!!!! You lucky I am not one of those crazy fans...!!

Believe me the way they go against each other is scary (fans I mean)

Strava...? Mission accomplished.TOP 10..? I am not pushing it.. But....

by pablo777 on Dec 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, guess we’re all pining for the southern hemisphere during winter! ;)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Dec 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

How come you know about CABJ??

And not about the all mighty king of cups??

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by pablo777 on Dec 26, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions  

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