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Iris Slappendel, Rabobank videos, and the horrible position the Garmin-Cervélo women are in

So, this starts as a light-hearted story, but it has a serious message. And of course, it's all my opinion, nothing to do with the Podium Café editors or Podium Café as a whole.

Rabobank have been putting out some fun videos of their 2012 women's team on their training camps. The videos are sweet and fun - interviews & footage from some team-building exercises (I grinned when I saw Marianne Vos blindfolded, and thought "bet she could still win races like that!") and checking out the 2012 World Champs course, - but eagle-eyed Bart Hazen, who writes & publishes his pics over at the Daily Peloton, spotted a familiar face we didn't expect to see there - Garmin-Cervélo's Iris Slappendel.

Slappendel is a superb rider, who loves the attacks, cobbles and all things Classics, but has also been part of Cervélo and Garvélo's lead-out train. She had an unfortunate 2011 all round, getting injured early on, and getting caught up in crashes, and of course, now stuck in the unfortunate Garmin-Cervélo situation, where the women riders only found out last week that Garmin-Cervélo is planning to save money by not racing the team in 2012. On the one hand, I'm really happy for Slappendel, if she ends up at Rabo - she's used to riding with Vos and Van Vleuten through her stints on the Dutch National Team - and I'd love to see her take over the Loes Gunnewijk role, of attacking like a loon and stealing the wins in my favourite Classics races. And I know the riders on the team respect her as a formidable rider - one of my favourite things about getting to see an hour of each stage of the Giro Donne was watching how the peloton responds to different riders, and there was one flat stage where Nederland Bloeit were being happy to let HTC-Highroad chase down any attacks..... until Slappendel jumped off the front, and suddenly Marianne Vos popped out of the side of the peloton, and it looked like every member of the Bloesems was on the front, until Slappendel was safely caught. Yeah, that must have been annoying for Iris, but it's one hell of a sign that she's seen as a threat!

Anyway, as I said, I would be happy for Slappendel, but Ben Atkins of Velonation had also spotted it, and did some digging. Here's what he found (head over and read the full article)

"Very clever of you!" Slappendel joked to VeloNation when we told her that we’d seen her in the Rabobank videos. "Unfortunately I can't say anything about it, there is nothing official yet. We are all still waiting on an official something from [Jonathan Vaughters].

"But I can say I am also very disappointed about the way things go," she added. "If Garmin really stops the women's team it's a big loss for womens cycling and a great team gone.

"I let you know more when I know more!"

So it looks like the riders at Garmin are STILL completely in the dark. And it gets worse...

With 2012 fast approaching, most of the team also still seem to be in the dark about their immediate future and that of the team. VeloNation has been in contact with a number of riders, but most are still unwilling, or unable, to comment on the situation.

"We still have not had 100 percent confirmation that the team will be folding," one rider told us, "so really I can't tell you much except that really none of us really have much of a clue as to what is going on."

Some, or all of the team’s nine riders contracted for 2012 – which include former World time trial champion Emma Pooley, and reigning British, Australian and Italian champions Lizzie Armitstead, Alex Rhodes and Noemi Cantele – are actively seeking new teams but, with the new year approaching are finding that most of the best ones are already full.


Read the full article here.
It seems like the riders (and presumably staff) are stuck in a no-win situation. They have heard the same news we have - that Garmin-Cervélo missed the deadline to register for 2012 in the UK (where they have to, given their team make-up), and all signs point to the team being dropped like a hot potato - but they haven't actually been told one way or another what's going on. And as time passes, the situation gets worse and worse for them. And if some riders DO leave, and the team is saved for 2012, it leaves the other riders in a terrible situation, as there won't be enough riders to actually race (well, unless they start adding Pooley to the sprint train/Armitstead to the climbing domestiques...)
It's all a really, really crap situation all round. And the bottom line still stands - while we know women's teams can be precarious, when riders have been signed to a 2-year contract, and the men's team has been signing new riders for 2012, the women had every right to expect to be supported for 2012.

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Blackswangren has also pointed us to

the news that Emma Pooley might be close to signing with AA Drink

The crazy thing from THAT story? Bear in mind the google gnomes have told me this, but..

What follows is a complicated game in which Pooley and Slappendel first all matters to deal with their current employer – possibly including some money – before they can sign a new team. Therefore can not officially too much brought out at this time.

The idea that riders would have to pay to get out of a contract, when they’ve heard they won’t actually be sent to races if they DON’T, is crazy!

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 2, 2011 6:53 AM EST reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere that JV said he will cover any salary differences if they sign to a new team?

So it wouldn’t be the riders paying to get out of their contracts, it would be Garmin making up the difference between their current contract and their new one, which most likely will be less. Again, I have no source and maybe it was JV’s twitter account, but i’m pretty sure that was the stated goal.

PopUp – we need your orange asterisk thingy back.

by PopUp Rolen on Dec 2, 2011 7:22 AM EST up reply actions  

The original text doesn't hint who would be paying whom

It could be a contract buy-out either way, or what you said.

"Beer helps." -- Ant1.

by tedvdw on Dec 2, 2011 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope what happens is that Garmin-Cervélo pay the riders their salaries

and let them ride wherever they want

(Of course, the riders with biggest problems are the domestiques. I bet Cantele and Pooley and Armitstead can find new homes, and I can imagine Sharon Laws finding a spot, but it’s Carla Ryan (Greenedge could sign her!) and Lucy Martin who are really at risk… Here’s hoping all of them are ok)

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 2, 2011 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Presumably

Even if Slipstream do make good on the promise to cover any income loss from whatever new contracts the riders find I would assume they will do all the haggling they can to make sure other teams don’t take advantage and sign riders to 0 salary contracts expecting Garmin to pay in full.

by Jens on Dec 2, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

That would serve Garmin right, though

I hope the other teams are all over that idea!

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Well it's good to keep in mind at the same time

that perhaps a good many of those other teams could keep the team racing on the same money that Garmin will spend on the wages simply because they don’t pay any of their riders any salary in the first place.
If Garmin did what so many others do perhaps they wouldn’t have to fold the team but could keep racing while their riders worked for free. That is also one perspective on this.

by Jens on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Well yes, if it was a struggling small team

But when it’s a great, big, multi-faceted organisation, that apparently spends more on it’s men’s team hospitality budget than on the entire women’s team (which apparently costs £400k IN TOTAL to run), then i’m less sympathetic to that PoV…

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 2, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

This is just truly horrible. I feel awful for them all.

Being left in limbo now of all times, when it’s possibly too late to find a ride elsewhere just sucks, and it’s ridiculous that they’re not being kept fully in the loop as to what the deal is. Bah.

It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"

by Albertina on Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

This whole situation sucks

about the only thing I can give JV credit for is that he is willing to come forward and talk about it rather than just going to ground. Has anyone watched the whole of this TourChats video? It’s just a bit long for me at an hour and forty minutes. There are a highlights of earlier shows on You Tube (including this bit from Evie Stevens from her new home in Boulder – I wonder if she ever sees Mara riding around?), but nothing from JV yet.

by Monty. on Dec 5, 2011 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

So far, JV has only been willing to deflect responsibility.

As if, it was totally ‘ok’ not to tell an entire team months ago that he effectively intends to use their 2012 budget on the men’s WT & U23 squads.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, agree 100%

And as British Cycling mysteriously and simultaneously settled a very public spat over money with their star men’s sprinter and sacked theri women’s performance director, I’m not sure there’s even someone to stand up for the rest of the girls.

by Monty. on Dec 6, 2011 4:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Especially given that Garmin were a British team

Does anyone know what the Feds’ responsibilities are?

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 6, 2011 5:40 AM EST up reply actions  

To adjudicate on whether an application put in front of it for a licence

meeting the relevant requirements – that’s about it really.
And decision only down to the GB fed as it falls to the Nat Fed where the majority of riders in the team are from, and Garmin team had (seems to be the correct tense of the verb) a lot of GB riders.

by andrewp on Dec 6, 2011 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

He said on twitter yesterday

that he assumed Big Mat would sign – so he registered all the World Tour riders on 1st October (they had to register min. 12 then) – and that meant he was obligated to give rides to all those blokes, so when Big Mat didn’t sign, he couldn’t cut the men’s team at all (what, not even the mahoosive hospitality/fun budgets, JV?). He also tweeted that it would be unfair to give a contract to a rider, but not register them for WT, so they couldn’t race… even though the women’s team are all under contract, & told they won’t be able to race.

I, too, am gobsmacked that the riders didn’t know until the date to register the women’s team in the UK passed – I mean, it was only a few weeks ago that Gav was chatting to Theo Maucher about them thinking about signing 2 new riders…

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 6, 2011 5:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

re Tour Chats

the womens cycling specific part – start 15 minutes in, lasts about ten minutes.

by andrewp on Dec 6, 2011 7:32 AM EST up reply actions  

That's one big one rescued

but the others? So sucks.

"It is unfortunate that the Wall is not plugged in correctly."

by JFS_PGH on Dec 6, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm especially worried about the domestiques

I’m hopeful for Sharon Laws & Lucy Martin, because of the wielerland article, but what if Emma P signs elsewhere? Would they still take those riders without Emma? I imagine an Italian team would bail out Noemi Cantele, but the worker bees, they’re in dire straits

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 6, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Who's left after that

Iris to Rabo, the 4 GB girls to AA Drink, Noemi to one of the Italian teams, Jessie Daams to Topsport Vlaanderen or Kleo, and Carla Ryan and Alexis Rhodes to Greenedge?

by Monty. on Dec 6, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice plan!

Do we know about the spare Diadoras yet? Who are we waiting to hear about?

Mara Abbott, Rachel Neylan, Eleonora Patuzzo?

Aka Pigeons!

by Sarah Connolly on Dec 7, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Patuzzo's Be Pink, so she'll be with Noemi

Rasch Neylan went on an AIS bootcamp a couple of weeks ago.

I hope Mara’s OK, particularly because she had that nasty injury just before the Giro.

by Monty. on Dec 11, 2011 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

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