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Offseason Capsule: Is Liquigas becoming the new HTC?

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Where is Liquigas-Cannondale heading these days? Long thought of as a grand-tour oriented team, their identity is becoming increasingly associated with their younger riders who have a prodigious appetite for sprint victories. Sound familiar? The same thing happened (albeit in a different mode) to the former T-Mobile / Highroad squad. In fact, Liquigas was second only to HTC this year in absolute number of victories...

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Built around dual grand tour leaders Ivan Basso and Vincenzo Nibali, Liquigas fell from 2nd in the 2010 UCI Team Rankings to a middling 8th this year. What happened? Well, for one, they went from winning two Grand Tours last year to garnering a 3rd, 7th, and 7th this year. That's a rather dramatic drop for a team with two riders who are serious podium contenders in any three-week stage race. Also, the neon green squad lost Roman Kreuzinger and his UCI points from various placings, including a 3rd in Paris Nice. So, what did they do to cope? In short, try more of the same on a reduced squad and get a nice haul of points from their up-and-coming sprinters.

What We Thought Coming In

We didn't have an offseason team capsule on Liquigas last year, but I believe I speak for the masses when I say we expected a good showing from Nibali and Basso in the grand tours. Many thought Basso would finish top 5 at the Tour and similarly expected Nibali to get podium at either the Giro or the Vuelta - or, more realistically, both. As for the rest, Sagan bore the brunt of the attention directed at Liquigas to see how he could handle the big boy cobbled races in April.

What We Got

The stage race consistency just wasn't there this year. Nibali and Basso did little in terms of the 5-8 day stage races in the earlier part of the season (they went 4th and 5th at Romandie, but that was all), though it's not hard to conceive of either of them doing well in Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico, the Dauphine, etc. That, paired with a notable drop in Grand Tour placings thanks to a failure to score big in the Giro and the Vuelta, made it a disappointing year compared to expectations.

Sagan performed as well as expected, racking up a total of 14 victories over the course of the season, including overall wins at the Giro di Sardegna and Tour of Poland. He also won the points classifications in California, Poland, Sardegna, and the Tour de Suisse. He pulled out victories in outright sprints as well as tough uphill finishes and a mountain stage that ended in a daring descent in Suisse. The one area where Sagan offered potential disappointment was in the spring classics. After stating he wanted to Target Milan-San Remo, he missed the front group when the race split on the descent of La Manie. In the cobbled races, he fared even worse, not even finishing in Flanders and displaying an allergy-like avoidance of the business end of the Paris-Roubaix peleton, even before the 200km mark. This came as a surprise after Sagan was one of the key animators of the finale of Gent-Wevelgem over several cobbled climbs.

Viviani picked up a fair number of sprint wins, which were added to by Guanieri and Oss. The team got a few wins in minor Italian one-day races thanks to Basso and Simone Ponzi and a stage win in the Giro from Eros Capecci, but nothing really in terms of other notable results.

Top Three Highlights

  1. Peter Sagan. His whole season, period, end of discussion. But if forced to choose, I'd say Sagan's performance at the Vuelta a Espana was the team's true highlight. Sagan won stages 6, 12, and 21 in his first ever Grand Tour. Pause for a second and think about that last result. It is regarded as an accomplishment when a rider merely finishes his first grand tour, and finishing well is a hallmark of potential greatness. So, for Sagan to have the sprinting legs to not only win but also to scalp Daniele Bennati, Alessandro Petacchi... You can see where I'm going with this.
  2. Nibali's podium at the Giro. He came in to win, but with Alberto Contador racing for as many wins as he could get before a potential suspension in June, he was always going to be hard pressed to win. Instead, we got an enthralling battle between Nibali and Scarponi for 2nd, with the Shark of Messina ultimately finishing 3rd. I was tempted to rank this first because Liquigas is an Italian sponsor and this team LIVES for the Giro, but Sagan was just too good.
  3. It would be easy to pick one of Elia Viviani's wins, as he racked up more than all but Sagan... but I'm going with Jacopo Guarnieri's win on stage 3a of the Three Days of De Panne. A promising sprinting talent at the young age of 24, Guarnieri already had several professional victories under his belt in prior seasons, but the caliber of riders he beat this year in De Panne was higher than most of Viviani's wins. Putting Galimzyanov and Ciolek behind you is no easy feat.

Bottom Three Lowlights

  1. The Tour de France. After winning the Giro last year, Basso set his sights high on the Tour, where he has twice come in second (prior to serving a suspension for implication in the Operation Puerto Scandal). Last year Basso came to le Tour after winning the Giro and suffered from the same dead legs that seemed to plague almost every rider ill advised brave enough to do the double. Coming in fresh and targeting the Tour specifically was supposed to rectify this, but Ivan would have no such luck this year. He was always near the lead group... but never quite there, and definitely not riding aggressively at the front. He finished a disappointing (for expectations) 7th. Additionally, nobody else on the squad featured prominently in sprints or breaks.
  2. Nibali at the Vuelta. Coming off the back of an inaugural grand tour win in Spain the year before, Nibali followed largely the same race program but simply did not have the same legs he did last year, finishing 4'31" behind Juan Jose Cobo in 7th.
  3. Pretty much every other stage race. Basso and Nibali hardly featured in the top-ten of any other stage race they did this year, and aside from Sagan's overall victories in the sprinter-friendly races in Poland and Sardegna, Liquigas was pretty invisible aside from some sprinting stage wins against B-list lineups.

Where Do They Go From Here?

Should the team focus on grand tours or bringing up its emerging sprinting talents? It may seem like a tough choice, but in reality both can be pursued. Basso may have a year or two more of top-5 placings in grand tours left in his legs, but he can't be counted on to lead the team for much longer. Not that he's getting too much slower, but the younger kids aren't waiting around for him. Instead, Nibali offers the chance to take a few more grand tour wins, though it is hard to see him winning the Tour in his career. He held promise at first, but there are too many guys near his age who seem more capable (the Schlecks, Contador, Van den Broeck). If he focuses a bit more on them, Nibali could also feature prominently in a few of the spring Classics - he is a constant animator on the Poggio in Milan-San Remo and finished a promising 8th at Liege after "not going into the red" to follow the move by the Schlecks and Gilbert.

While Nibali is definitely talented, the team's best prospect seems to be to hold onto Peter Sagan and let him develop naturally. It remains to be seen if he will steer more towards pure sprinting or towards the Philippe Gilbert model, but either way he is guaranteed some success. Indeed, he could even gravitate towards the Thor Hushovd model, winning sprints based off pure power alone but gravitating towards the classics later. Really, with this dude, the possibilities are almost endless.

Liquigas also has retained the core of its team - and its sprinting talent - over the transfer season. So, for the most part, expect a large degree of continuity with last year. If they start to focus more on providing some support for Guardieri, Sagan, and Viviani - and maybe even Oss - in the sprints, they can improve here. When they've dedicated riders to helping their sprinters (see Oss and Viviani at the USA Pro Cycling Challenge), they have had good results. What they lack is depth in stage racing talent - without replacing Kreuzinger and Kiserlovski and without palpable improvement in Agnoli, they are becoming overly reliant on two riders to pull in results in their area of traditional strength. Could we see them morph more into the HTC model of developing talented young sprinters? I'm doubtful they'll embrace this wholeheartedly, but they have some of the pieces in place and their results from this year indicate they might be able to achieve some success there.

Finally, I would be remiss if I did not mention Sylwester Smyzd in a discussion of Liquigas. Can he PLEASE have a shot at a stage race on his own? The world would love to see what the climbing demon could do if he were truly unleashed.

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Great review/analyses!
Except for Ponzi, as he’s with Astana in 2012 :-) Still curious to see him develop

by Renner on Dec 30, 2011 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

+1

Another Sagan highlight for me was his (climb and) insane descent of the super steep Grosse Scheidegg in the Tour de Suisse. We voted it one of the stages of the year and that was mainly for Sagan’s racing.

moo

by Willj on Dec 30, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

If Szmyd ever gets to be a squad leader

I would hope Przemysław Niemiec would as well at the same race. It would only be fitting.

by Aly Edge on Dec 30, 2011 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

I am not even sure if he ( Szmyd ) has an aspirations to be a team leader.

I think he found his perfect niche and with that respect and maybe even fear of entire Peloton.

" I like that Cav got his wins…"
JJY 10/20/11


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by holmovka on Dec 30, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

For me, Szmyd will always be the “vomit comet” for his Ventoux stage win in the Dauphiné

moo

by Willj on Dec 30, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

None of the sprinters are yet at the level where they are going to impinge on the GT riders’ goals. Continue to blood them as they are doing for another year or so, after all, Sagan can help both sets out, Oss can work on the classics after good showings in 2010. Basso especially is not explosive enough for the hilly classics against the top pros (the domestic calendar races may be a different story). They’ve already streamlined the GT contenders down from 4 in 2009 and originally in 2010 (obviously the Pellizotti biopassport case got in the way there), so I can’t see them abandoning ship on their GT aspirations any further until they can guarantee comparable returns out of the sprinting team. Don’t Viviani and Guarnieri and others still take time out of their road schedules now and then for track?

by UrlaubinPolen on Dec 30, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

You right.

I think Viviani and Guarnieri will deffenetely spend lots of time on the truck this year, Olympics and what not.

" I like that Cav got his wins…"
JJY 10/20/11


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by holmovka on Dec 30, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What???

The NASCAR Truck series now has Liquigas sponsorship and drivers AND the NASCAR trucks are now an olympic sport? WOW!!!!!

;)

(Like I should poke fun of anyone for a typo.)

by ursula on Dec 30, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

In Europe

Truck racing means this:

I can just see Liquigas sponsorship on the front one, no?

by UrlaubinPolen on Dec 30, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice preview. I think Leaky might be my favorite team.

Lots of climbing power, they’re Italian, and they seem to work together well (e.g. Nibali & Basso in the 2010 Giro). And of course Sagan is such an exciting rider. It could be that he’s not cut out for the spring classics, but I believe he has an excuse this year as he was still hurting from his crash in Paris-Nice. He didn’t really get back on track til the Tour of California.

Start fast, finish fast, and hope you're fast enough-- Cadel Evans

by tgartner on Dec 30, 2011 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Looks like a very balanced team with some firepower in all departments.
Having said that, perhaps Liquigas should go all in GC wise at the Giro and take a much more opportunistic approach in the other GT’s, chasing stages with aggressive riding rather than an invisible top 10 GC placement.

Sagan on his own will keep the team relevant in almost all other races.

by Uphill on Dec 31, 2011 5:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Concentrating on the Giro makes sense to me.

And then, if someone has something left in the tank, go for the Vuelta. It worked in 2010.

What I am really curious about is how Liquigas sees the 2011 Vuelta—as some sort of fluke result, or as a true measure of Nibali’s ability. I think that will have a lot to do with how they plan their 2012 campaign. If they figure he was just undertrained, or overtrained, or couldn’t take the heat, or whatever, they might be more inclined to tackle the Tour. Especially if Conta doesn’t go.

Start fast, finish fast, and hope you're fast enough-- Cadel Evans

by tgartner on Dec 31, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree Sagan looks like he could excel at almost anything

but I’m going out on a limb saying he will never podium in a cobbled monument.

by Jens on Dec 31, 2011 4:20 AM EST reply actions  

That's a risky bet... the guy is 21.

And a very good bike handler. I don’t see why he couldn’t make the podium, certainly in Flanders. Maybe not this year or the next, but who knows where he’ll be in five years.

by blackswangreen on Jan 1, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take that bet.

He’ll be 22 next year, 184cm, & 73kg

He’s got great tactical sense for his age, and an engine that hasn’t yet hit total potential.

I’d say in about 3 years he’ll be competitive in many of them.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Jan 2, 2012 4:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I know odds are I'm wrong

I just think he looks to lack that intangible quality that makes certain riders love and do well on the cobbles and therefore I think he will focus on different objectives.

by Jens on Jan 2, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Leaky-gas should fare better this season.

Am I the only one who noticed that the 2011 Giro absolutely wrecked everyone that competed in it? Lo Squalo wasn’t himself at the Vuelta, and Scarponi was even worse. Saxo Bank was MIA for Bertie at the Le Tour. I don’t think that the 2012 Giro will be nearly as grueling and expect Leaky-gas to fare much better in their grand tour ambitions in 2012.

by Nawls on Jan 8, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

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