"I read some of it. It got boring half-way through. I'll read the rest on a plane some time. I got about a third of the way in. It was just boring, the detail he was going into about Landis his background and his philosophy about life."
He also invited us to spend a day at the UCI with him to see they're not corrupt. Who's game?
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Just found it interesting that he has so many comments on how it's all the same old "Landis story" and lies...
but he didn’t actually read it all.
He “likes his word” too…
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It doesn't add up!
I couldn’t get past the fact that he says it got boring halfway through, but then says he got about a third of the way in. If he only got a third of the way in, how does he know it gets boring halfway through? Or is he saying he got bored halfway through the first third?
You're either on the bike or off the bike.
Yeah, I noticed it too.
Pretty funny for the head of the whole shebang not to even be able to tell the truthe about whether he read the transcript or not.
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Maybe his math skills are lacking
Lance offered him 1/4 of his winnings to cover up any positive tests. Pat insisted he wouldn’t do it for anything less than 1/5.
My bags are guaranteed sand-free.
And your point is?
That bargaining position is known as an Irish auction :)
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
this is sad,
says something about his intellectual curiosity – in his job he should be reading everything he can get his hands on. A dialogue between a former Tour winner and one of the most important cycling journalists should be at the top of his reading list. If not, he’s just burying his head in the sand.
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Feb 2, 2011 9:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He must be lying...
I believe he read it and he’s lying. How could he ignore it – just as you said. He has to have read it.
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See, no sand.
Oh, you were talking about Phat Pat, my bad.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I agree, hardly intellectually curious
but hardly professional, either. He’s (effectively) the CEO of a large, multi-branch, public facing organisation. He has a responsibility to read this (and be seen to have read and responded to it) whether he is interested or not.
I’m an accountant. If I stopped doing my job whenever the content is boring, I would have had a three week career.
Suck it up, you dickhead.
by EdredonBrowny on Feb 3, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
Three weeks? Optimist.
He’s (effectively) the CEO of a large, multi-branch, public facing organisation.
So’s the Pope. They both love The Nile.
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 4:00 AM EST up reply actions
The Nile or De Nile?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
(same pronunciation in Irish ;)
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Feb 3, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
First rule of plausible denial...
…don’t make your denial a universal claim that’s easily refutable by counter-example. I’m pretty sure that fmk’s pdf has plenty of examples of proven, organized corruption at the UCI. You lose Pat.
Exsqueeze me, but putting Francesco Conconi on the Medical Commission is not evidence of corruption. Just of stupidity. And you’ll notice Phat Pat didn’t deny that :)
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
I don't do stuffy and he seems the type.
Anyone who has every thought a working Photojournalist has a glam job needs to rethink...
by Christopher See on Feb 2, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
If stuffy is the nice way of calling him a turd, I agree.
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by JustJoshinYa on Feb 2, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is why he hates blogs
it requires too much use of the eyeballs.
"I just want to say fuck you, and I mean that in the most professional way" -Brandon Llyod
SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
comment of the week
sometimes it’s about cutting to the chase.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 3, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
I recced it...no point wasting words on Fat Pat
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I’ll repeat the point I made elsewhere about his Oscar P comment. What can the UCI do? What Pat promised us – retro testing of stored samples. Unless of course he was bullshittin’ when he promised that.
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But the yes to re-testing came with a whole bunch of "ifs" and "buts", no?
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Feb 3, 2011 3:41 AM EST up reply actions
Not that remember. It was we’ll store the samples. We’ll retest them. Fuck man, they did it with Dekker, or has Phat Pat forgot that case already?
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
Ok
Don’t know if there’s anything more recent than this. Among other things, he says “information that would for example come from the biological passport”, which is why Dekker got busted. But also: “information that will come from people in the field in relation to a particular individual”, which should be relevant here.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Feb 3, 2011 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
And in 2007.
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 4:19 AM EST up reply actions
Of course, Francesca Rossi did rather let the cat out of the bag on retro testing. wonder whatever became of her.
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 4:26 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder
can you detect same-person transfusions this long after the fact?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 3, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like them to retest every sample when the plasticizer test is a go...
I’d imagine they’ll find out a significant % of the samples are positive…
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Issue is there are non doping reasons for plasticiser...
… IV drips for rehydration etc.
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
when, precisely, were those banned?
That would make a difference.
My memory is fuzzy on this too, but I recall that they are banned for in-competition tests - ok for out of competition when under care.
Surely they have the dates of the tests to correlate to dates of races. Course, this is the UCI…
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hadnt even realised there was a ban on those things
shows what I know.
Thanks
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Like this in the CN story:
In May 2010 Landis alleged that a positive doping result by former teammate Lance Armstrong during the 2002 Tour of Switzerland was concealed after an agreement was reached between the American rider, his directeur sportif Johan Bruyneel and the former UCI President, Hein Verbruggen.
Armstrong and the UCI were quick to dismiss the allegation. Lance Armstrong did not start the 2002 edition of the race and Johan Bruyneel told the press that Landis needed ‘help’. Last May, McQuaid stated: “It’s completely false and completely untrue and we’ve made contact with a lawyer and will take appropriate action.”
That’ll learn Landis not to diss CN. Wonder what they’re gonna to to strike back at Kimmage?
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like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
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Ooops. Both paras should be quotes. Stupid interweb.
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Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
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by fmk on Feb 3, 2011 4:05 AM EST up reply actions
For me
It’s just another sign of unprofessionalism.
Either make no comment, or issue a well thought out statement.
moo
I'd love to spend a day at the UCI
We could play fun games like ‘recognize the bicycle’ or ‘find the hidden stashes of money’.
Death before decaf! :D
- gavia
my favorite game is
guess which rider bought us this machine.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
there's not a folder- more a 20 sided dice and an overly large instruction book
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
or
Guess how much this building cost and where the money came from? That’d be a fun game.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 3, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I wish
McQuid and his cronies would not just respond to the allegations made by Landis, but also to some of the other now “repentant confessed” dopers like DiLuca and Vandenbrouke who upon confessing their own transgressions also let out murmurs about “cycling now being very different to the sport which existed 5-10 years ago” and how they were victims of the system in place.
Doesn’t that add credibility to what Landis is saying here? Sure the doubters may want to dismiss VDB as crazy, and DiLuca as desperate, but quite honestly what benefit did either rider really gain from outing that whole sordid era of cycling? More scorn from fans, the media and even some of their colleagues?
So when you consider the words of Landis in this interview it only further enhances/supports what we already learned about the era from VDB, Di Luca and others, that the sport was operating under a lie for a very long period of time (part of which was under McQuids stewardship)
McQuid should at least have the guts to acknowledge that fact…
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