Tirreno Adriatico Stage 1 ........ LIVE
by Jens on Mar 9, 2011 8:30 AM EST
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Marina da Carrara 16,8 km Team Timetrial
First team timetrial of the year kicks off the race of the two seas. Most of the major contenders in the upcoming monuments are here to hone their form along with some more than competent stageracers.
Live video: 15:00 CET (09:00 US EST, 01:00 AUS EDT)
Video: Gazzetta TV steephill, cyclingfans, Myp2p, Procyclinglive and BVLS.
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geez
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
probably took a chunk out of the road
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
I'm not sure I can handle two live threads and two video feeds at the same time...
plus I have to pretend to work too. My head might explode.
cause they'll prob show t-a after p-n.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
well, what-do-you-know? the universal live commentator ain't the american ones.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
don't know who they are. well, one might be matt rendall. don't know who the other one is.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yeah. on universal sports premium.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
last year was 79.99 for the entire year.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Just paid
$35 for the year, includes Giro and Vuelta.
is that just for the cycling? or all the sports?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
of course, i'm still working on last year's subscription. not sure when that expires.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yep. all sports (i's got to have my curling).
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
35 dollars is not much for 2 GTs + assorted other races
Universal has been consistently working too right? (except for a messy site)
generally, yes. and, if you bookmark the correct page, the site's not that messy.
tho, i haven’t watched any of the cycling if it has those american commentators. even the live last year had those idiots.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yep
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
they've had that for years. a little delayed. w/o commentary.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
No, it's all black here
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Mar 9, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
a few mins yet for gazzetta
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
good morning
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
which browser is that working for you?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
crashed chrome. and it shows as restricted in firefox.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
let me give it another shot.
meanwhile, is eurosport ever going to actually show t-a? or just commercials?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ah. there we go. and recording also (dang universal doesn't record. i'll need to capture that later.)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
of course, it helped that i closed the explorer windows for the eurosport streams
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
is it super choppy or just my slos system?
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
hey, zoe, they're picking on you in the other live thread
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
is that what they're calling it these days
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
now, if the plumbers would just hurry up and get here. i've got grocery shopping to do this afternoon.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
nice of them to show the crash
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yikes
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Bäckstedt
“What we call a NBF: Nothing but face”.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Mar 9, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
i see that the bruce gap is alive and well
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I would guess it will be points to team leader
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
Yes--each rider finishing with the team gets 1/5 of the stage points.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
what if more than 5 finish?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
No, all the Rabo guys who finished with the team get the points.
Riders who get dropped don’t.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
yes. take the finishing riders and divide by that place's points.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
No, see above--20% no matter how many finish with the team (not finishers).
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
DADT
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
acronyms are so much fun.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
GC, TWISHT
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
good call, that's what i should have typed
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
email them? use to work with ctv. to turn down the ambient and up the announcers.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i find him quite amusing.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
quiet all. carrots on the road. don't want to spook them into a crash.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
that's the important part
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
We only saw five of them
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Mar 9, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
you watching on tv? or the rai stream? cause you definitely have that gap going.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Garvelo brought their classics team
I played around with some of the TT rankings last night. Garvelo had the weakest time trialists among the super-teams.
Rabobank, Liquigas and HTC were much higher. Leopard was the highest but only because of Fabian.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
I just averaged for CQranking points for each rider in TT
Results are:
Rabobank – 19
Leopard-Trek 77
HTC-Highroad 52
Garmin-Cervelo 15
Liquigas 21
Take about Cance and Leopard drops to 13
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
i think so
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Yes. They swapped sponsors with Lampre
So Lampre-Farnese and ISD Neri became Lampre ISD and Farnese Neri
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Rabobank: Freire, Boom, Flens, Gesink, Langeveld, Leezer, Tankink, Wynants
Some good TTers, but wouldn’t expect them to put the wood to HTC and Garmin
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
Morning all
Thanks for the commentary so far.
So it’s Rabo, HTC, Saxo, BMC?
That’s pretty surprising for Rabo and BMC.
conglomeration of oil companies, no?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
well, i think the word "katusha" actually means rocket/missile.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
well I think it's actually a diminutive female name...
….roughly, katie. But the association is, and the team was explicit about this, with the military rocket.
Don't see why.
I think the song was also mentioned, and may have been part of the inspiration for naming the rocket, but my memory of all this is super hazy. There’s definitely a whole set of associations with the name that made it seem apropos for the ‘russian team’.
Versus Channel and Universal Sports are now owned by the same company. NBC owns both.
Vs had ads for UniSports cycling on Paris-Nice yesterday. Weird.
boo hiss, comcast.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
GE still owns NBCUniversal
I think everyone in Paris-Nice needs to take one less shot of espresso tomorrow. - Tejay Van Garderen
No. Wait. Comcast 51% GE49%
I think everyone in Paris-Nice needs to take one less shot of espresso tomorrow. - Tejay Van Garderen
cross advertisement has been going on for years.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
well, it could be for the universal sports on versus. nbc family always cross advertises the channels.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Farnese fails to challenge the carrots for last place.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
So Rabo has this one in the bag?
You don’t put all your faith in heart rate or power outputs, however; what’s happening in an athlete’s head is the most important thing. Aldo Sassi
oh dear
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Mar 9, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
WTF - leopTURD
The Dutch Belted cows suck!
by JustJoshinYa on Mar 9, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone think Boom has a chance at the overall
Pavepavepave thought he could if the race doesn’t break up too much in the mountains.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Gesink is their GC hope here
You don’t put all your faith in heart rate or power outputs, however; what’s happening in an athlete’s head is the most important thing. Aldo Sassi
That would be cool, but the overall does usually go to the climbier types.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Oscar has won here before, correct?
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
Yes, and Petacchi was second that year
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Mar 9, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Why did Quick Step suck so badly today?
On paper, their team looks okay.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
give majope a sec or two
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
SuperTed needs to rejigger the results page for TTT scoring first.
Looks like 6 Rabo finished together: Boom, Langeveld, Gesink, Tankink, Freire, and Leezer—all will get 8 points.
Then we need to track down the finishers for Garmin and HTC. TTT scoring always takes longer.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
When do we see that in the VDS score?
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
Since you missed it:
SuperTed needs to rejigger the results page for TTT scoring first.
Looks like 6 Rabo finished together: Boom, Langeveld, Gesink, Tankink, Freire, and Leezer—all will get 8 points.
Then we need to track down the finishers for Garmin and HTC. TTT scoring always takes longer.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
I saw that after I posted.
thx, m
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
Big Magnus
Answered my question today…starstruck!
Can I put in another plug for a bottom of the page button
or a last post button at the top of the page. Its a killer to try to get back on a long thread when you are using ipad or iphone and can’t use the ‘z’ key
VDS results not updated yet?
I can only see 6 points for Lars
and since I have Gesink on my VDS-team….
see majope's comment above
waiting on ted to update.
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
It's not Ted's fault Gazzetta hasn't posted full results.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Although Ted, if you're around--I tried to put in Rabo, at least, since we know who finished with them
and got a ‘Debug’ message.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Yep,
the fact that you could enter the whole team is already new and I haven’t updated the ‘save’ function yet.
In a bit of a conundrum: I used to update TTTs by hand and give all riders on the winning team a placing of “1” which would reflect in their number of wins. However if use this new automated update, there hardly is a way of getting around giving them consecutive placings. That would mean the win would only show up for Boom, not the other Rabos.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/46th-tirreno-adriatico-his/stage-1/results
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
no it doesn't
and I’m not ‘blaming’ ted for anything.
There were a lot of fresh cowboys in the peloton and it was a nervous fuss. Tommeke
What, exactly, are you looking at? When I go to CN, I see the team ranking, then this:
1 Lars Boom (Ned) Rabobank 0:18:08
2 Sebastian Langeveld (Ned) Rabobank
3 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank
4 Bram Tankink (Ned) Rabobank
5 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank
6 Tom Leezer (Ned) Rabobank
7 Tyler Farrar (USA) Garmin-Cervelo 0:00:09
8 Matthew Wilson (Aus) Garmin-Cervelo
Ending at 8th. Bici gives the same, Gazzetta just the team listing. Again, if anyone can find the full results, please post a link.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Full results
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Mar 9, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks! Looks like the scoring riders will be:
8 points each:
1 Lars BOOM NED RAB 18:08
2 Sebastian LANGEVELD NED RAB +0
3 Robert GESINK NED RAB +0
4 Bram TANKINK NED RAB +0
5 Oscar FREIRE GOMEZ ESP RAB +0
6 Thomas LEEZER NED RAB +0
5 points each:
7 Tyler FARRAR USA GRM +9
8 David ZABRISKIE USA GRM +9
9 Ramunas NAVARDAUSKAS LTU GRM +9
10 Roger HAMMOND GBR GRM +9
11 Andreas KLIER GER GRM +9
2 points each:
13 Marco PINOTTI ITA THR +10
14 Bert GRABSCH GER THR +10
15 Michael ALBASINI SUI THR +10
16 Peter VELITS SVK THR +10
17 Hayden ROULSTON NZL THR +10
18 Mark RENSHAW AUS THR +10
Now it’s just a matter of getting the results page past that ‘Debug’ thing…
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
So to sum things up:
3 Robert GESINK NED RAB +0
13 Marco PINOTTI ITA THR +10
16 Peter VELITS SVK THR +10
28 Ivan BASSO ITA LIQ +22
33 Vincenzo NIBALI ITA LIQ +22
37 Cadel EVANS AUS BMC +26
38 Mauro SANTAMBROGIO ITA BMC +26
45 Fabian CANCELLARA SUI LEO +28
46 Andy SCHLECK LUX LEO +28
51 Tiago MACHADO POR RSH +30
56 Thomas LÖVKVIST SWE SKY +33
58 Edvald BOASSON HAGEN NOR SKY +33
64 Michele SCARPONI ITA LAM +37
65 Damiano CUNEGO ITA LAM +37
73 Philippe GILBERT BEL OLO +41
78 Stefano GARZELLI ITA ASA +47
83 Sébastien ROSSELER BEL RSH +49
84 Yaroslav POPOVYCH UKR RSH +49
93 Enrico GASPAROTTO ITA AST +51
96 Maxim IGLINSKY KAZ AST +51
08 Joaquin RODRIGUEZ OLIVER ESP KAT +52
110 Danilo DI LUCA ITA KAT +52
112 Luca PAOLINI ITA KAT +52
114 Giovanni VISCONTI ITA FAR +54
115 Patrik SINKEWITZ GER FAR +54
and yeah, I forgot some guys
my hope lies in Basso or Cancellara's hands...
Oh I wish there was a 50km TT at the end of this thing…
not a chance
Basso getting seconds on Gesink, since his comeback he has only been dropped by the latter numerous times, in vuelta 09 and tour 10…
I’d put your cards on Evans, Pinotti or Nibali, if they manage to not lose more seconds that is.
Btw, why so suprised by Rabobank winning a TTT. You do know they have a young squad for years now, and they dominated TTT’s when they were espoirs with Rabo TT3 / Continental.
It just takes time to develop that talent. Now they are all 24/25/26/27… getting stronger each year.
This is why more teams should have youth development programs and contract those riders for 4/5 years and keep patience
Basso won the Giro.
In that Vuelta, Basso finished higher in the GC, although admittedly Gesink was injured. Then Basso won the Giro. Then Basso rode the Tour coming off the Giro win: why he didn’t have anything, I’d suggest. I don’t know whether this race really suits him though. Maybe better for someone punchier.
I don't see why
Scarponi isn’t looked upon as one of the men to beat. 1st then 2nd last two seasons. He’s not a great TTer, but not horrendous. He’ll attack on the climbs too.
And if it all stays relatively close on the climbs, then yes a TTer like Martin has a good shot, or Gesink given his TTT advantage. But could equally see Evans or even Ballan challenging. BMC could send Ballan off the front, and if he stays away then great. If it’s brought back together Evans can just follow then be strong at the end of the day, and in the TT.
I don’t think Basso is going to put himself out for this. And I think Nibali is focused solely on the Giro.
I think Scarpomi is similarly Giro focused as Nibali
Lampre didn’t hire him to win the T-A, they want the Giro. That said, the Cobbler is fairly even in his performances and could take this even if he is not 100%.
This has not been a great start for Greipel this year.
And what happened to our Cav-Greipel showdown?
Can anyone tell me who the five finishers from Leopard Trek were? Please?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
From Figureheads full standings above
45 Fabian CANCELLARA SUI LEO +28
46 Andy SCHLECK LUX LEO +28
47 Daniele BENNATI ITA LEO +28
48 Stuart O’GRADY AUS LEO +28
49 Tom STAMSNIJDER NED LEO +28
Thank you! It's a relief to see that the Classics boys came through.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
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