GIRO d'Italia Startlist
by Bruce Suomi on Apr 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT
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Announced today! Full list, below the fold.
| CSOC/PET | Cod.UCI | SOC/NOME | NAZ |
| ASA | ACQUA & SAPONE | ITA | |
| 1 | ITA19730716 | GARZELLI Stefano | ITA |
| 2 | ITA19730227 | CODOL Massimo | ITA |
| 3 | ITA19821226 | CORIONI Claudio | ITA |
| 4 | ITA19790508 | DONATI Alessandro | ITA |
| 5 | ITA19760402 | MARZOLI Ruggero | ITA |
| 6 | CRO19740118 | MIHOLJEVIC Vladimir | CRO |
| 7 | ITA19810131 | NAPOLITANO Danilo | ITA |
| 8 | COL19870328 | SARMIENTO TUNARROSA Cayetano | COL |
| 9 | ITA19850605 | TABORRE Fabio | ITA |
| D.S. | CENGHIALTA Bruno | ||
| ALM | AG2R LA MONDIALE | FRA | |
| 11 | ITA19770925 | NOCENTINI Rinaldo | ITA |
| 12 | FRA19870727 | BERARD Julien | FRA |
| 13 | FRA19860317 | CHEREL Mikael | FRA |
| 14 | FRA19741129 | DESSEL Cyril | FRA |
| 15 | FRA19801113 | DUPONT Hubert | FRA |
| 16 | FRA19790422 | GADRET John | FRA |
| 17 | LUX19871114 | GASTAUER Ben | LUX |
| 18 | FRA19790207 | KRIVTSOV Yuriy | FRA |
| 19 | ITA19840106 | MONTAGUTI Matteo | ITA |
| D.S. | BIONDI Laurent | ||
| AND | ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI | ITA | |
| 21 | COL19790417 | SERPA PEREZ Jose Rodolfo | COL |
| 22 | ITA19810109 | SELLA Emanuele | ITA |
| 23 | VEN19820218 | RUJANO GUILLEN José | VEN |
| 24 | ITA19860519 | DE MARCHI Alessandro | ITA |
| 25 | ITA19810407 | ERMETI Giairo | ITA |
| 26 | ITA19830309 | FERRARI Roberto | ITA |
| 27 | VEN19801214 | OCHOA Carlos José | VEN |
| 28 | VEN19850225 | RODRIGUEZ Jackson | VEN |
| 29 | ESP19770413 | VICIOSO ARCOS Angel | ESP |
| D.S. | SAVIO Gianni | ||
| BMC | BMC RACING TEAM | USA | |
| 31 | ITA19791106 | BALLAN Alessandro | ITA |
| 32 | USA19860815 | BEYER Chad | USA |
| 33 | SUI19861209 | FRANK Mathias | SUI |
| 34 | SUI19850717 | KOHLER Martin | SUI |
| 35 | NOR19870705 | KRISTOFF Alexander | NOR |
| 36 | ITA19841007 | SANTAMBROGIO Mauro | ITA |
| 37 | SUI19820701 | TSCHOPP Johann | SUI |
| 38 | SUI19850826 | WYSS Danilo | SUI |
| 39 | SUI19830306 | ZAHNER Simon | SUI |
| D.S. | BALDATO Fabio | ||
| COG | COLNAGO - CSF INOX | IRL | |
| 41 | ITA19821130 | POZZOVIVO Domenico | ITA |
| 42 | ITA19851014 | BELLETTI Manuel | ITA |
| 43 | ITA19870619 | MODOLO Sacha | ITA |
| 44 | ITA19870311 | PIRAZZI Stefano | ITA |
| 45 | ITA19850502 | SAVINI Filippo | ITA |
| 46 | ITA19850830 | CANUTI Federico | ITA |
| 47 | ITA19850707 | STORTONI Simone | ITA |
| 48 | ITA19870822 | BRAMBILLA Gianluca | ITA |
| 49 | ITA19860302 | CADDEO Manuele | ITA |
| D.S. | REVERBERI Roberto | ||
| EUS | EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI | ESP | |
| 51 | ESP19830302 | ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor | ESP |
| 52 | ESP19840618 | SESMA Daniel | ESP |
| 53 | ESP19880830 | MINGUEZ AYALA Miguel | ESP |
| 54 | ESP19770420 | ISASI FLORES Inaki | ESP |
| 55 | FRA19840607 | CAZAUX Pierre | FRA |
| 56 | ESP19861205 | ARAMENDIA LLORENTE Javier | ESP |
| 57 | ESP19820616 | AZANZA SOTO Jorge | ESP |
| 58 | ESP19800711 | OROZ UGALDE Juan Jose | ESP |
| 59 | ESP19840526 | NIEVE ITURALDE Mikel | ESP |
| D.S. | GLEZ DE GALDEANO Alvaro | ||
| GEO | GEOX - TMC | ESP | |
| 61 | RUS19780125 | MENCHOV Denis | RUS |
| 62 | ESP19750422 | SASTRE CANDIL Carlos | ESP |
| 63 | ESP19810211 | COBO ACEBO Juan Jose | ESP |
| 64 | ESP19750303 | BLANCO RODIGUEZ David | ESP |
| 65 | ITA19790523 | CHEULA Giampaolo | ITA |
| 66 | RUS19840405 | KOZONTCHUK Dmitry | RUS |
| 67 | COL19860611 | DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres | COL |
| 68 | COL19790521 | ARDILA CANO Mauricio Alberto | COL |
| 69 | ESP19870625 | VALLS FERRI Rafael | ESP |
| D.S. | ZANINI Stefano | ||
| THR | HTC - HIGHROAD | USA | |
| 71 | GBR19850521 | CAVENDISH Mark | GBR |
| 72 | ITA19760225 | PINOTTI Marco | ITA |
| 73 | GER19870407 | GRETSCH Patrick | GER |
| 74 | USA19850110 | LEWIS Craig | USA |
| 75 | DEN19800116 | BAK Lars Ytting | DEN |
| 76 | CZE19830926 | RABON Frantisek | CZE |
| 77 | DEN19840609 | RASMUSSEN Alex | DEN |
| 78 | AUS19821022 | RENSHAW Mark | AUS |
| 79 | BLR19820809 | SIVTSOV Kanstantsin | BLR |
| D.S. | PIVA Valerio | ||
| KAT | KATUSHA TEAM | RUS | |
| 81 | ITA19810910 | POZZATO Filippo | ITA |
| 82 | ESP19790312 | RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin | ESP |
| 83 | ITA19760102 | DI LUCA Danilo | ITA |
| 84 | ITA19800815 | CARUSO Giampaolo | ITA |
| 85 | ESP19810905 | MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel | ESP |
| 86 | ITA19770117 | PAOLINI Luca | ITA |
| 87 | ESP19820228 | LOSADA ALGUACIL Alberto | ESP |
| 88 | ESP19740327 | HORRACH RIPPOLL Juan | ESP |
| 89 | BLR19791027 | KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr | BLR |
| D.S. | PARSANI Serge | ||
| LAM | LAMPRE - ISD | ITA | |
| 91 | ITA19790925 | SCARPONI Michele | ITA |
| 92 | ITA19740103 | PETACCHI Alessandro | ITA |
| 93 | ITA19800610 | MARZANO Marco | ITA |
| 94 | ITA19890715 | ULISSI Diego | ITA |
| 95 | GER19740104 | HONDO Danilo | GER |
| 96 | POL19800411 | NIEMIEC Przemyslaw | POL |
| 97 | ITA19880128 | MALORI Adriano | ITA |
| 98 | ITA19760328 | RIGHI Daniele | ITA |
| 99 | SLO19860623 | SPILAK Simon | SLO |
| D.S. | MAINI Orlando | ||
| LEO | TEAM LEOPARD - TREK | LUX | |
| 101 | ITA19800924 | BENNATI Daniele | ITA |
| 102 | GER19861031 | KLEMME Dominic | GER |
| 103 | AUT19821223 | ROHREGGER Thomas | AUT |
| 104 | NED19850515 | STAMSNIJDER Tom | NED |
| 105 | POR19810515 | PIRES Bruno | POR |
| 106 | ITA19840612 | VIGANO Davide | ITA |
| 107 | GER19800620 | WEGMANN Fabian | GER |
| 108 | BEL19840927 | WEYLANDT Wouter | BEL |
| 109 | SUI19810509 | ZAUGG Oliver | SUI |
| D.S. | GUERCILENA Luca | ||
| LIQ | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | ITA | |
| 111 | ITA19841114 | NIBALI Vincenzo | ITA |
| 112 | ITA19850106 | AGNOLI Valerio | ITA |
| 113 | ITA19860613 | CAPECCHI Eros | ITA |
| 114 | ITA19810408 | DA DALTO Mauro | ITA |
| 115 | ITA19830726 | DALL'ANTONIA Tiziano | ITA |
| 116 | ITA19850218 | SABATINI Fabio | ITA |
| 117 | ITA19850218 | SALERNO Cristiano | ITA |
| 118 | POL19780302 | SZMYD Sylvester | POL |
| 119 | ITA19800916 | VANOTTI Alessandro | ITA |
| D.S. | VOLPI Alberto | ||
| MOV | MOVISTAR TEAM | ESP | |
| 121 | ESP19800107 | ARROYO DURAN David | ESP |
| 122 | ITA19740615 | BRUSEGHIN Marzio | ITA |
| 123 | CRC19860829 | AMADOR BAKKAZAKOVA Andrey | CRC |
| 124 | BLR19810628 | KIRYIENKA Vasili | BLR |
| 125 | ESP19760120 | LASTRAS GARCIA Pablo | ESP |
| 126 | ESP19840116 | PARDILLA BELLON Sergio | ESP |
| 127 | ESP19791002 | PASAMONTES RODRIGUEZ Luis | ESP |
| 128 | BLR19850525 | SAMOILAU Branislau | BLR |
| 129 | ESP19820506 | VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco J. | ESP |
| D.S. | ARRIETA Jose Luis | ||
| OLO | OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO | BEL | |
| 131 | BEL19860214 | BAKELANDTS Jan | BEL |
| 132 | GBR19891001 | BLYTH Adam | GBR |
| 133 | BEL19850202 | DE GREEF Francis | BEL |
| 134 | BEL19860826 | DE CLERCQ Bart | BEL |
| 135 | BEL19880704 | DOCKX Gert | BEL |
| 136 | BEL19830430 | KAISEN Olivier | BEL |
| 137 | GER19790915 | LANG Sebastian | GER |
| 138 | FIN19810329 | VEIKKANEN Jussi | FIN |
| 139 | BEL19880324 | LODEWYCK Klaas | BEL |
| D.S. | DAMIANI Roberto | ||
| AST | PRO TEAM ASTANA | KAZ | |
| 141 | CZE19860506 | KREUZIGER Roman | CZE |
| 142 | ITA19770708 | TIRALONGO Paolo | ITA |
| 143 | ITA19860505 | MASCIARELLI Francesco | ITA |
| 144 | CRO19860809 | KISERLOVSKI Robert | CRO |
| 145 | KAZ19790130 | GOUROV Maxim | KAZ |
| 146 | ESP19750805 | JUFRE POU Josep | ESP |
| 147 | SWE19800517 | KESSIAKOFF Fredrik | SWE |
| 148 | RUS19780525 | PETROV Evgeni | RUS |
| 149 | SLO19730127 | STANGELJ Gorazd | SLO |
| D.S. | MARTINELLI Giuseppe | ||
| FAR | FARNESE VINI - NERI SOTTOLI | ITA | |
| 150 | ITA19830113 | VISCONTI Giovanni | ITA |
| 151 | ITA19831216 | FAILLI Francesco | ITA |
| 152 | ITA19770527 | GIORDANI Leonardo | ITA |
| 153 | ITA19850101 | GATTO Oscar | ITA |
| 154 | ITA19870814 | RABOTTINI Matteo | ITA |
| 155 | ITA19740204 | MAZZANTI Luca | ITA |
| 156 | ITA19810731 | CACCIA Diego | ITA |
| 157 | ITA19690115 | NOE' Andrea | ITA |
| 158 | ITA19840212 | RICCI BITTI Davide | ITA |
| D.S. | SCINTO Luca | ||
| QST | QUICKSTEP CYCLING TEAM | BEL | |
| 161 | ITA19840612 | BANDIERA Marco | ITA |
| 162 | ITA19850317 | CATALDO Dario | ITA |
| 163 | GER19860919 | CIOLEK Gerald | GER |
| 164 | NED19840205 | DE MAAR Marc | NED |
| 165 | NED19770616 | ENGELS Addy | NED |
| 166 | ITA19870711 | MALACARNE Davide | ITA |
| 167 | FRA19800102 | PINEAU Jérome | FRA |
| 168 | BEL19860912 | SEELDRAYERS Kevin | BEL |
| 169 | BEL19850405 | VANDEWALLE Kristof | BEL |
| D.S. | BRAMATI Davide | ||
| RAB | RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM | NED | |
| 171 | NED19830822 | BOS Theo | NED |
| 172 | NED19830411 | FLENS Rick | NED |
| 173 | NED19870607 | KRUIJSWIJK Steven | NED |
| 174 | NED19851226 | LEEZER Tom | NED |
| 175 | NED19890209 | SLAGTER Tom Jelte | NED |
| 176 | NED19781203 | TANKINK Bram | NED |
| 177 | NED19850218 | VAN EMDEN Jos | NED |
| 178 | NED19871202 | VAN WINDEN Dennis | NED |
| 179 | NED19810405 | WEENING Pieter | NED |
| D.S. | VERHOEVEN Nico | ||
| SBS | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | DEN | |
| 181 | ESP19821206 | CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto | ESP |
| 182 | LUX19840719 | DIDIER Laurent | LUX |
| 183 | UKR19770215 | GUSTOV Volodymir | UKR |
| 184 | ESP19810928 | HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus | ESP |
| 185 | DEN19830522 | KLOSTERGAARD LARSEN Kasper | DEN |
| 186 | SWE19800920 | LARSSON Gustav Erik | SWE |
| 187 | ESP19830708 | NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel | ESP |
| 188 | ITA19740514 | TOSATTO Matteo | ITA |
| 189 | ESP19790123 | NOVAL GONZALEZ Benjamin | ESP |
| D.S. | MAUDUIT Philippe | ||
| SKY | SKY PROCYCLING | GBR | |
| 191 | SWE19840404 | LÖVKVIST Thomas | SWE |
| 192 | CAN19751218 | BARRY Michael | CAN |
| 193 | FIN19761018 | CARLSTRÖM Kjell | FIN |
| 194 | ITA19741202 | CIONI Dario David | ITA |
| 195 | GBR19780823 | DOWNING Russel | GBR |
| 196 | ITA19890602 | APPOLLONIO Davide | ITA |
| 197 | NOR19840514 | NORDHAUG Lars Petter | NOR |
| 198 | BEL19831121 | PAUWELS Serge | BEL |
| 199 | ITA19840701 | POSSONI Morris | ITA |
| D.S. | YATES Sean | ||
| GRM | TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO | USA | |
| 201 | USA19840602 | FARRAR Tyler | USA |
| 202 | NZL19750128 | DEAN Julian | NZL |
| 203 | AUS19890713 | BOBRIDGE Jack | AUS |
| 204 | BRA19790616 | FISCHER Murilo Antonio | BRA |
| 205 | FRA19800911 | LE MEVEL Christophe | FRA |
| 206 | AUS19880111 | MEYER Cameron | AUS |
| 207 | GBR19770104 | MILLAR David | GBR |
| 208 | USA19870808 | STETINA Peter | USA |
| 209 | AUS19771001 | WILSON Matthew | AUS |
| D.S. | MARIE Lionel | ||
| RSH | TEAM RADIOSHACK | USA | |
| 211 | UKR19800104 | POPOVYCH Yaroslav | UKR |
| 212 | AUS19720624 | MCEWEN Robert | AUS |
| 213 | POR19851018 | MACHADO Tiago | POR |
| 214 | JPN19830410 | BEPPU Fumiyuki | JPN |
| 215 | POR19830407 | CARDOSO Manuel Antonio Leal | POR |
| 216 | IRL19830907 | DEIGNAN Philip | IRL |
| 217 | BEL19860806 | HERMANS Ben | BEL |
| 218 | RSA19770422 | HUNTER Robert | RSA |
| 219 | RUS19870930 | ROVNY Ivan | RUS |
| D.S. | GALLOPIN Alain | ||
| VCD | VACANSOLEIL - DCM PRO C.TEAM | NED | |
| 221 | ITA19790325 | CARRARA Matteo | ITA |
| 222 | SLO19800808 | BOZIC Borut | SLO |
| 223 | RUS19850109 | BELKOV Maxim | RUS |
| 224 | POL19840429 | GOLAS Michal | POL |
| 225 | NED19830513 | HOOGERLAND Johnny | NED |
| 226 | UZB19810114 | LAGUTIN Sergey | UZB |
| 227 | ITA19750724 | ONGARATO Alberto | ITA |
| 228 | ITA19850211 | SELVAGGI Mirko | ITA |
| 229 | BEL19780904 | VEUCHELEN Frederik | BEL |
| D.S. | VAN DER SCHUEREN Hilaire | ||
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Go, Cav!
(You’re about my only hope of points in this race.)
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Same here!
Maybe also Ballan.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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Woo hoo. Deignan makes Team The Shack. Come on Ireland, we want a maglia rosa
(Hey, I can dream, can’t I?)!
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
Well, Deignan seems a more likely winner than our A Rasmussen.
I thought Martin was going for the Giro?
Probably been told to stay at home after that fuck up in the Fleche.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
He was withdrawn from the Giro weeks ago
and the “fuckup” consisted of crashing into another fallen rider.
The other was his cousin and the two had been nattering away when the crash happened. He was supposed to be targetting Fleche, not swapping family gossip :)
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
Well it makes for a fun joke
but I highly doubt nattering played any sort of role. Bad luck is bad luck. The other rider might as well have been Amelia Earhart’s great-grandmother and it wouldn’t have made the least bit of difference I suspect.
Aye, bad luck is bad luck. And bad luck at Lombardy (which he was targeted for) and the Fleche (which he was targeted for) is damned unlucky.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
Diluca – Seriously WTF Giro! I know the latest news seemed to indicate he’d be in…but I don’t like it…
Farrar – I really would have thought he’d do Cali instead being that it’s more sprinter friendly then the Giro…
what can they do?
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
Not trying to start a debate...
…just saying that the last time he was in their race he was busted for CERA. If it were my race, I’d leave him out. How? My race, my rules. The tour’s done it, so if they want to appeal to CAS go for it.
by JustJoshinYa on Apr 21, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
if i were a race organizer, i’d have a rule that says anyone who tests positive in my race is banned for life.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
And what's up with Popovych being the 'shack captain?
Though it looks like McEwen and Machado are selected for something, as well.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
the #1's don't always mean that they are the G.C. leaders...i.e. Katusha...J-Rod is 2nd behind Pozatto
just depends on how the team does it. QS and Rabo (two examples I saw quickly) did it in alphabetical order
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing this can serve as an early smackdown thread right?
Well despite a lack of italian riders and without Nibali this year, la Tête dans le Guidon is still looking for big points at the Giro. What we lack in quantity we’ll make up in quality :)
- JRod and Igor Anton for the GC (top 5 for both?)
- Deignan for a handful of points to justify his low price :)
I for one
believe the startlist is more interesting than the VDS teams at this point.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Apr 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha! Katushsa, Russian team with out single Russian rider!
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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That’s where you wrong.
Seeldrayers finally will live up to his potential! I hope! I pray!
No better I hope and pray! lol
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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A 1 pointer who's already scored points this year...he's a superstar on my team compared to my other (more "valued") donuts...
by JustJoshinYa on Apr 21, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I need at least 20 more points from him.
My formula is cost, times 60.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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I am an easy DS to please...Basically, I am at the don't score a donut stage.
Later this season I’ll start getting excited…
by JustJoshinYa on Apr 21, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's sort of unreal that at 28 points
Phil is already almost living up to your formula. It’s april!
I like tinkering with the boys.
- majope
Just for that
I’m going to snicker at the next carrot crash.*
*not if it’s serious or if the carrot in question is txurruka or anton
I like tinkering with the boys.
- majope
Help me Igor Antón Hernández, you're my only hope
Because Gadret, Blythe, Seeldraeyers, Meyer won’t bring a lot of VDS points.
Gadret/Nocentini I think is the GC guy for AG2R
Sminer: I blame KARMA for everything.
Jens: I've heard it's a bitch
Water Girl: I heard it ran over your dogma
Oh Gadret!
I’d love to see him get a big result. I like that guy :)
Also: Nocentini is on twitter now.
I wasn't feeling too comfy VDS-wise for this race but,
I got Ballan (Dude’s gotta be tired), Kristoff, Pozzovivo, Bennati, Klemme, Tiralongo, Pauwels & Le Mevel.
I’m a little disappointed Sky isn’t sending Uran but I have good sensations re: Le Mevel.
I no longer know what my limits are - Philippe Gilbert
I am doomed.
After a quick scan of the list, I have Matt Wilson. Him and only him.
He's all custom carbon fiber, EPO and the Olsen twins. I'm more Surly Crosscheck, pot and the girl working the morning shift at the Circle K.
Man! This is a power!
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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"But I have ze crystal ball!" he said, holding it up to the light
So I snatched it all away from him and showed him how to do it right.
He's all custom carbon fiber, EPO and the Olsen twins. I'm more Surly Crosscheck, pot and the girl working the morning shift at the Circle K.
all my eggs in a basket held by a wobbling carrot ...
oh anton dont let me down.
ballan and hermans as well. not expecting anything out of them.
by mr. rogers on Apr 21, 2011 12:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ooof...only 3 riders for me: G.E Larsson, Anton and Hondo.
I can’t wait though…it’ll be nice to watch the race and cheer for my favorites without thinking about VDS :P
He is doing Cali...think that he might be on the short list for the Tour though (Giro trumps Tour for Liquigas in terms of importance)
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool
Not so sure the tour is a clear #2 this year.
No Basso in the Giro, so he at least is going all-in for the Tour. Which would suggest someone in Leaky management have promised him enough domestique firepower to be a serious contender.
Hope KoS makes the TdF then.
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Leaky is pretty international
So the Tour is more important to them but Giro is probably number 1 still. Basso can win a weaker tour this year so no point in wasting him at the giro when they have nibs
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree on the split squad
and that Basso wants to do the tour. Just think it is closer than it usually is for Leaky…
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Even in terms of money? That's what I was really referring to
seems like the Italians generate massive, and needed, publicity at their home race
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
you're prolly right
or in terms of advertising exposure, deffy right.
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Sending:
GC: Anton, Kreuziger, A Rasmussen
Workhorse: Klemme
I need one guy on the podium and another in top 5 to avoid falling too much down the ranking. This will be a big test for the VDS setup.
This has the potential to be seriously dull....
If Contador is on form wont he just blow everyone else away?
And there isnt really a sprint competition worth watching…
If riders make the race, we may have a superb corsa but a non interesting field…
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Could make the TdF more interesting
if AC wins the Giro, will he still have enough to win the Tour? Or does it open the door for ASchleck (or SamSan, JRod, Basso, et al)?
Do we know if AC is actually going to the tour?
My guess is one way or another he wont be there.
So yes – I agree the tour is wide open. AS will start as favorite, but there will be plenty others to take a bite out of his hide…
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Compared to the Tour where Andy's biggest threat is crashing into the brother
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Most pointless pro tour team attending...
… 3 way tie between BMC, @Lotto and Lee-Oh-Pardh
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Frank won the KOM and sprint jerseys at Tour de Suisse last year
But I agree it is very much the B team. Even Burghardt is not there.
for what reason?
Are we talking dope? I may have forgotten that particular subplot…
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
gotcha
it’s like trying to follow the Wire. So much going on that you forget a key cast member…
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Ballan is Proposition Joe in this analogy
He’s likely to get popped, but he isnt the big storyline…
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
Another thought....
…if you are Theo Bos, newly minted road sprinter looking to make the step to Grand Tour sprinter, and your first ever GT is THIS giro… just how scared are you?
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
It caught my attention as well
He was loosing in excess of 2 minutes at Castilla y Leon sprint stages. Seems like a cruel joke.
Exactly what Bos needs is a GT this hard in his legs
Should improve him no end as a rider in the loing term
or let him know
it is time to go back to the boards…
Makes Cav’s transfer seem quite impressive (if transfer it was… not trying to start a fight here)
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Besides possibly doing some track event for the Olympics, he isn't going back to the boards...
andrewp is right…he needs a shock into his system so they will probably make him go as long as possible and then build him back up for later this year
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Cav was an endurance trackie, right?
Points, madison. Bos was a sprinter, keirin, km man like Hoy.
The only thing worse than not winning a VDS race is winning a non-VDS one. -- Chris...
Exactly. Cavendish wasn't a sprinter on the track.
Bos was always rather lean for a track sprinter, but his transition is quite remarkable. To use Bos’ own analogy, it’s as if Usain Bolt were to start running marathons.
BTW this isn’t his first GT. He rode the Vuelta last year, had no problems making the time cut, but crashed in the final TT.
by blackswangreen on Apr 22, 2011 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions
No surprises here
Top tier: Contador, Menchov, Anton, Rodriquez, Nibali,Scarponi. Seeing none of these guys are racing the Tour(likely) it begs the question…better gc field at the giro?
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Even fewer here...
Top tier: Contador
2nd tier: Menchov, Anton, Rodriquez, Nibali,Scarponi
3rd tier: bunch of random italians I have never heard of. And popovych
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There are six guys who could win
You will never get that at this year’s tour.
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and it could easily turn into a one man domination
Contador can beat all of them…just depends on his form…I’d rather see him battle Andy, someone who can actually beat him, rather than him controlling the race save for a few key moments
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna be a lot of folks to try to cover.
On more varied terrain than the typical TdF.
"My Back is Fuck!" - Comrade
Nah
He’s a better climber than all bar the odd italian, and he will kill them in the TTs. PLus, that is a strong team he is bringing (only question, where is CAS?)
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Nope (unless his program is changed?)
He was supposed to have May off, then Suisse -TdF – PostDanmark followed by Vuelta where he is supposed to be riding his own chances.
Lausanne
and Contador knows it.
The only thing worse than not winning a VDS race is winning a non-VDS one. -- Chris...
Anyone knows the current schedule for the CAS hearings?
I saw some speculations earler this year, but that was well before the appeals. If they want a decision before the Tour, wouldn’t they want to have the hearings during the Giro?
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Apr 22, 2011 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Are the athletes typically present at the CAS hearings?
I feel like I should know this but I can’t seem to recall any" riders in silly fashion"-pics outside the courtrooms in Lausanne?
Valverde testified
But via telephone from Australia. Though it didn’t really sound like he was present at, or involved during, the second hearing, the RFEC part of the case.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Apr 22, 2011 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait
The first one was Valverde’s appeal, and the second UCI’s? I guess that could be a important distinction.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Apr 22, 2011 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah... my Giro-centric strategy is not looking so good...
Now that Contador and Menchov are in it. Be that as it may, I’m sending a horde of Sleeping Maiden riders: Nibali, Anton, Scarponi, Machado, Sastre, Pardilla, Kruijswijk, Ulissi, Meyer, Bobridge, Hermans. A little surprised about the last two, but maybe they can bring home some scraps.
What else can I say? I'm really happy. --Vincenzo Nibali
Menchov could make it interesting...Geox brought a stacked team, in terms of climbing, so sending those guys off in breaks
and having them for the mountains will key for him to have a chance
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Geox have the best options to mess with AC
They can lay him like Saxo played Evans in the TdF and got Sastre the win. Mind you Bjarne will know all about that idea…
Do you really think Andy can beat him?
Not sure I do.
At least the race for second at the Giro’s wide open…
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
I have the opposite reaction, IF Contador is serious and has genuinely targetted this race
AC has not lost a GT he has raced since 2007. He is a guy who wins the TdF by minutes, against most of these names less the random italians. He is still firmly in his cycling prime, and has a DS who knows his sh1t. To me, he is the totally prohibitive favorite – he will blow all these guys out the water. [disclaimer – assuming his TdF form wasnt totally phama reliant]
On the other hand, in this years tdf, we have AS, who is at best unproven as a GT winner, Evans, Basso, a Sanchez or two, Wiggins perchance, and whichever complete unknown Garvelo manage to pull out of their hat. Assuming AC is out of tour contention one way or another, that is a really open field
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Which one of those guys can beat andy if he is on?
None can. The tour will be just as dull if we are basing this off assumptions. Bert may win by 5 minutes but he has not dominated every gt he has ever raced. The overall field is better than at the tour imo and that cannot be based on possible domination by one guy. Hell if the best in the world is there than that would just support my point
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would say both Evans and Basso have a legitimate shot
AS has (had? tbd) a serious TT weakness and no experience being the dominant force. Plus, he seems to make key mistakes. As someone more intelligent than me around these ’ere parts pointed out, he has NEVER won a pro stage race. And we are saying he is the prohibitive favorite?
I am a schlecklet fan, so hope he does. But, to use a baseball analogy, his swing has some serious holes in it.
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Andy would have some if he had any ambition outside of july
I agree Basso could challenge but the terrain does not help. And the Tour has very little tting as well. Last year had bert not been there andy would have won easily. So back to the point that there are more guys at the giro who could win if bert is not as dominant as expected than there are guys at the Tour who could win if andy is not on.
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Evans is focussed totally on the Tour this year
And has been targeting this year since he first signed for BMC. I think Andy better watch out.
course he also has had an injury to deal with...so we are waiting to see, right?
by JustJoshinYa on Apr 21, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely forgot Pozzivivo(sp)
Seeing there are no dutch roads to foil his early stages this yr. He is due for a gt breakout
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Machado's Looking Great
at Trentino this week. Can he last at that level for 3 weeks? I got him, Kreuziger, Anton, token doper Sella, A Rasmussen, Ulissi, Stetina, so it’s pretty well all covered for at least decent results – some stage placings and a couple of top 10 GC’s hopefully.
"Gold medal, silver medal, bronze medal; for me, potato." - Emil Zatopek
My hopes for points:
Gadret, Jackson Rodriguez, Ballan, Viscioso, Igor Anton, Nieve, David Blanco, and Lovkvist.
With luck Igor Anton will get a podium or top five, and with a whole lot of luck Lovkvist will ride into a top 10 placing. The rest will go for stage wins. I really look forward to watching Nieve and Jackson Rodriguez in the steeper stages.
But seriously
Has Tom Slagter won yet?
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
by Phil H. on Apr 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like that they're bringing him.
Has to be the youngest guy in the race? Or close.
I could think of an easier race to find your way in the pro ranks, though.
by blackswangreen on Apr 22, 2011 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions
A good number of riders there for me.
Montaguti, Vicioso, Anton, Menchov, Duarte, Paolini, Scarponi, Ulissi, Pardilla, Ventoso, Gatto
Sprinters.
With Cav, Farrar and Ale-Jet at the Giro, its about as strong a group you can get and these guys will be fighting for 4 stages. Perfect balance.
I know your not one for sprinting stages but it would be better, imo, for there to be one or 2 more "possible" stages
where it could come down to a sprint…not total flat run-ins.
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem with 1-2 more potential sprint stages, as long as they are not
perfect “train” type stages, because those simply becomes a three way competition.
Opening ttt should be interesting with this field
There aren’t a whole lot of crono specialists here, and some of the teams who did well in last year’s ttt (Katusha, Sky, Leaky) seem to be sending weaker crono squads this year.
At a glance, I’d give the edge to 2009 cronosquadre winners HTC to put Cav in the maglia rosa after stage one.
Only team I can see challenging is Garmin...but they can't drop Le Mevel so that might slow them down
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Saxo could also be a player
once they drop of couple of skinny climber-types in the first few k.
Interesting hodgepodge of a Giro team from Saxo, btw. With this being perhaps Contador’s only grand tour of the year, I would have thought they’d send all their big guns. And what on earth is Tosatto doing there? Road captain, I suppose.
by Susie Hartigan on Apr 21, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Tosatto can actually finish a GT and so solid work...I mean really, he doesn't DNF much (save pulling out of Vuelta on stage 18 or 19)
so he can be trusted to get work done. Still need someone to patrol the front.
Plus I think it has to do with Contador too…he likes his Spanish bunch, Larsson will provide tons of help, Gustov & Klostergaard on the front with Tosatto and Didier helping out wherever. I think its one of the strongest teams there
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Good points about Tosatto
I’ve actually always kind of liked him (he was on my very first VDS team back in 2007).
I agree that Saxo is one of the strongest teams, not just for the ttt but for the whole race. I guess I’m mainly just surprised CAS isn’t there, after he did so well in last year’s Giro. I’m not much of a gambler, so I guess if I were running Saxo, I’d put everything I had behind their best chance for a grand tour win this year – Contador at the Giro – rather than holding something back in the hopes of doing well at the Tour.
Then again, Cali has also always been an important race for Saxo.
by Susie Hartigan on Apr 21, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the issue might be
that CAS was promised free reigns last Giro but lost out to injury and when he was to get that chance again the Vuelta was the best choice.
Also CAS is a very popular , high profile rider in Denmark so they want him at the Tour and also want to give him the best possible training for the Worlds in Copenhagen and that means Vuelta. CAS will be a key player in helping Breschel go for the win just as he has been these last two years. Riis can’t afford to (and doesn’t want to) screw with his prep (like he did with Matti last year)
Interesting
thanks for info. I was just assuming CAS would go to Cali with Richie, but I see what you mean about races later on the calendar being more important for him than either of the May races.
by Susie Hartigan on Apr 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
CAS is the local Jens!
Always good for an outspoken, drastic, funny comment (plus he does well) . The Tour is a major summer event in Denmark with about 2 hours of pre/post-stage coverage each day, plus all the available racefeeds broadcast in their entirety. Starting last year they had almost as ambitious Vuelta coverage too (ASO deal?) . So it makes sense to use CAS there if for no other reason.
Well here is hoping that hurricane season is about to start at the Giro!!!
Hello Hurricane is bringing out the Artillery for this race.
J-Rod 24
Scarponi 16
Kreuziger 14
Anton 12
Menchov 12
Ballan 6
Hoogerland 4
Bos 4
88 points including one of my 18+ and all of my <10 point riders.
Seriously if I don’t have one of the best Giro Teams at the end of all this then something went horribly wrong. Even if Contador and Nibali are knocking heads for 1-2 then I have to fill out most of the rest of the top 10!
Don’t I?
I mean seriously if this team ends up sucking at the Giro what have I got left except the Vuelta!
And Seriously can I say Seriously and more ’cause this is seriously serious ya know!!!
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 21, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
As above - Must start making my move on VDS with this race.....
JRod
Anton
Machado
Lofkvist
Kreuziger
Sella
Hoogerland
Bos
Szmyd
Kessiakoff
Tankink
So guess top 3 will be contador, Nibali & Menchov..
i only have
menchov, bennatti, hoogerland, kyrienka and nieve… so i think ill drop out of the top 10
My VDS season rests on Nibali
I selected him specifically for this race so he better come good or I really am finished for the year, given how well (!) my team rode the classics.
yes, see cyl stage 3
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
the numbering of dossards at the giro when the prior year champ isn't there does confound me
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yep, it seems to be done differently every year.
I guess this year, they decided to go the easy route with an alphabetical list.
In other numbering news, the RCS press release points out that Italian national champion, Visconti will wear the number 150, in honor of the 150th anniversary of the Italian national unification.
by Susie Hartigan on Apr 21, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, i like that bit about Visconti
i think they’ve given Garzelli number 1 before, haven’t they? they like that dude anyway.
Yeah, they gave him number 1 a couple years ago, I know...It's because he is the oldest Giro champion, in terms of number of years ago
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
might as well lose
belletti, anton, paolini, [guardini, if he wins two stages at turkey], conta, navarro, cameron meyer, machado
ed’s league
belletti, anton, paolini, ventoso, navarro, possoni
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
The cool thing is that the race shouldn't be dominated by the pro teams.
That and it doesn’t look winnable by defending/time trialling. Should be pretty exciting. At the very least, it should be a good showcase for Bert, with all the really steep stuff you don’t see in the Tour. Apart from my VDS team, I’ll be rooting for Rodriguez. And Pozzovivo after his nightmare last year.
I guess I have accidentally targeted the Giro
First you Breed a Lot of Hamsters has:
Hoogerland
Gadret
Anton
Bozic
Paolini
Szmyd
Tschopp
Visconti
Veikannen
Sminer: I blame KARMA for everything.
Jens: I've heard it's a bitch
Water Girl: I heard it ran over your dogma
This is preliminary...
there will be many changes in rosters before May 7th right?… RIGHT?!?
In the largest field in modern Giro history I have three riders from my VDS team. sigh…
Early Phil predictions(because I cannot stop talking about the Giro)
Podium:
1-Contador
2-Rodriquez
3. Scarponi
Green Jersey:
Garzelli-he will once again fall back on GC early to be given break chances and scoop his favorite prize up
Sprinters Jersey(can’t remember the wtf color here)- Visconti
White Jersey- Kreuziger(or is he not eligible?)
Best Team-Geox
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
Kreuz is still eligible...Have to be U-26 to be eligible (So born in '86 or after)
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 21, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't sure if it was under 25 or 25 was last eligible year
he turns 25 on the day before the Giro starts
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
Sprinters-Mauve
Sminer: I blame KARMA for everything.
Jens: I've heard it's a bitch
Water Girl: I heard it ran over your dogma
Used to be ciclamino, but now it's red.
Or rather, rosso passione.
I yearn for the cobbles--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Like your first two podium spots, but Nocentini is going to sneak onto the third step
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
My views on the VDS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on—IRt78nU&feature=related
look, if it's hurting me, the other one is going to be about to die now - Jens!
Interstingly (the internet is a crazy place), there is a picture for that (and it's on a page that says it's ok to share):
Wrong sport, but right thinking…
by JustJoshinYa on Apr 22, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Panicked Birds....
Anton
Bobridge
Meyer
I was always targeting the vuelta anyhow.
Mmmkay, if you say so
It will be a roster all for Rodriguez the one who will be, the next May 7th, in Turin. So, no “stage hunters”, but riders with good team work and climbing attitudes for the final goal of the general classification, that will be decided in the last, very tough week.
And yet they have Di Luca in the team.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
looking at that Katusha press release,
it appears they’ve substituted Pavel Brutt and Eduard Vorganov for Pippo and Paolini.
Damn, that’s a drag! I love having Pippo at the Giro. I hate to sound new-agey, but Pippo just has a lot of positive energy around him. Like Bettini, he always seems to be joking around and laughing, and it’s fun to watch him interact with the other riders. His press conference after he won the Porto Recanati stage last year was a hoot. And of course, the camera loves him.
by Susie Hartigan on Apr 25, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Di Luca can climb better than most other domestiques
the only question is whether or not he gets kicked out by the end
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
Andrea Noe racing at age 42
Try not to beat yourselves up too much about forgetting about him in VDS.
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