Lance Armstrong and Tyler Hamilton Walk Into a Bar
... the restaurant’s owner, Jodi Larner, a good friend of Armstrong’s, told Hamilton that he could finish his meal but wasn’t welcome back at the restaurant ...
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More members of the church of Lance.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Typical petty restaurant owner bull****
If you want to uninvite a patron, wait until they pay their bill and tip the server. As it stands we get a laugh, the restaurant gets it’s 15 minutes, the owner feels like, well a restaurant owner and the server gets shafted.
Should I find myself in Ass-pen I will avoid Cash Cash. Like I could afford to eat in an Ass-pen restaurant anyway.
Anyone who has every thought a working Photojournalist has a glam job needs to rethink...
by Christopher See on Jun 13, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
i don't know. do you think tyler (or anyone really) would be that petty toward the waitperson?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 13, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
especially in a situation like this. i’d be fucking pissed and probably wouldn’t think twice about the waitstaff. not that it’d be right, but if some asshole is gonna tell me i can’t eat in his restaurant anymore after being confronted by a dude on the other side of a federal investigation, i probably would walk straight out of there. i don’t think it’s about being petty toward the waitperson, who’s just an unfortunate bystander (and i’ve been that unfortunate bystander before). you kick me out of your place, you deal with the consequences. it’s up to the owner to make it up to the waitstaff in that situation in my opinion. you can’t blame the customer who just got shat on.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Well, the Yelp reviews are a kick...
"In addition, it also showed an enormous lack of respect to my dog, whose name they changed." - Oscar Pereiro
hater
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Jun 13, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So two guys
that don’t like each other had a very minor altercation in a restaurant. Thank Jeebus there were reporters nearby so they could report on this truly monumentous event.
yawn.
"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti
uh . . .
An extremely high-profile target of a federal investigation goes out of his way to start a confrontation with a witness in that investigation.
I don’t think that Armstrong realizes that his enablers are out-ranked in this particular set of confrontations, because he’s still acting like the middle-school bully who thinks he’s the principal’s pet.
if that's what the story's about
the writer would have done well to mention it.
As it is, it comes of as somebody trying to make an event seem inportant so that he can seem important by association.
"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti
Let's leave aside the verbal component of the incident
and stick to a detail that is agreed upon:
Armstrong, after noticing Hamilton in the restaurant, blocks Hamilton’s path from the men’s room back to his table.
Wow. That’s the action of a mature gentleman.
Now . . . should Hamilton have gone to that restaurant, knowing the Armstrong association? Good question, but, perhaps it’s true that he thought that Armstrong was out of town. Which raises a question: how/why did Armstrong decide to come in to the restaurant that evening?
I see your point
as to how this could be seen as a piece of a much bigger puzzle. But the incident, looked at by itself, strikes me as a big “who cares”. If the writer wanted to try and fit this in to the larger scheme, then maybe it would have some interest. Lance coming off as a jerk to someone is hardly newsworthy anymore.
Maybe it’s a really good restaurant? I don’t know. AFAIK all parties are capable of free will, and I’m not really interested in what their motivations might be.
"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti
writer didn't necessarily need to mention the backstory, it's pretty much implied.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Oh really?
You want to take a guess as to how many readers of Outside know anything about the Federal Investigation? I sure wouldn’t take for granted that is was anything close to a majority.
"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti
best to have these sorts of conversations
before someone can start stringing together words like obstruction, justice, etc.
~
Hamilton comes off a bit whiny. Still rattled? Tell LA to GTFO of his way and move on.
and Armstrong's still the guy who bullied Bassons and Simeoni.
and a host of folks in TX when he was a teenager.
Leopards . . . spots . . .
Are you saying that Lance will make a comeback
and join Leopard-Trek? And sell all their bikes? Oh dear.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jun 13, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would have been
Leopards…. scarves….
by Sarah Connolly on Jun 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullies never change
You stay classy Lance. Props to Tyler for not responding in kind….
I don't care about the altercation between LA and Tyler
My beef is with the owner asking Tyler to never come back. For one, it was probably totally unecessary (doubt Tyler would come back), and the owner comes across as the real douche in this story.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Meh
I doubt he knew shit about the background. If you run a restaurant and your wealthy celebrity regular asks you to disinvite some guy you don’t know from Adam I bet it’s a pretty easy decision? That said I don’t know what rules exist in US states when it comes to refusing people service in restaurants and bars.
Dan got banned from an IKEA for performing an unnatural act in an armoir
I wonder if that carries over to Sweden……….
Sea Otter Classics (tm c R I’ll fucking sue you)
by Drew Davis on Jun 13, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We're liberal
In the swedish IKEA catalogue that act is actually listed as a feature in the description of the armoire.
Almost everyone knows about the Lance/Tyler connection after the "60 minuites" peace
because it was mentioned almost everywhere including all the Colorado newspapers and TV stations.
Does Lance's PR agency get a raise every time he does something stupid?
Sign seen at entrance of local bike shop, " \o/ spoken here.". - Okay, I made it up, but wouldn't that be cool?
i'm sure they get to bill more hours
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
yeah I was just thinking about how dumb this is
I mean, in the end, jsallee’s right, it’s kind of a non-story. Except that, if I’m Armstrong’s lawyers, I’m thinking, what a nightmare client! (Well a nightmare client with fat pockets.) I mean, I’m thinking, dude, control yourself, our job is tough enough as it is!
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Jun 13, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
But R Mc is right.
Hamilton’s lawyers have formally notified the federal authorities about the incident. If they decide it’s witness intimidation it can change the game somewhat.
Sign seen at entrance of local bike shop, " \o/ spoken here.". - Okay, I made it up, but wouldn't that be cool?
yeah, that's what I mean
if I’m Armstrong’s lawyer’s, I’m pulling my hair out, telling my client “chill, dude!”
ah wait you meant that it’s potentially more than a non-story – ok, I see what you mean here, good point
quite a story at that link, by the way, thanks for that
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Jun 14, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
urban spoon review for the restaurant in question
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Uhh, yes, the latest review
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jun 13, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the best way to have reviewed this...
I’m a fan of a fake review, but low points for it’s execution in this case.
by JustJoshinYa on Jun 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jun 13, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
3 recommendations for that review so far.
I’m just saying.
Sign seen at entrance of local bike shop, " \o/ spoken here.". - Okay, I made it up, but wouldn't that be cool?
Two former / retired/ thing in the past / Cyclist went to the restaurant.
Thank God for my short memory, I already forgot who was the first guy, and give me another year or two and I am not going to remember who was the second one!
Don’t care about the "glorious" past!
How many days till TDF?
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
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I refrained yesterday from making a comment about Ricco serving them an espresso . . . guess my will power’s a bit weaker today ;)
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Jun 14, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
And the one legged jockey says
don’t worry about me – I ride side saddle
and the barman says
‘What is this? Some kind of joke?’
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