Tour de France: Restday Open thread
by Jens on Jul 11, 2011 6:26 AM EDT
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Time for all of us to draw our collective breaths and let the heartrate drop a little after what has been the best and worst first week of a Grand Tour in a long time.
Here is a place to discuss the rest-day shenanigans and bits of info that trickle out from the hotels, pressconferences and massagetables as the riders prepare for Act II.
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to decide today if he will ride further. After undergoing x-rays in a hospital in the evening, he was reassured he had not broken anything, suffering only hematoma and severe muscle tenseness on his back.
look, if it's hurting me, the other one is going to be about to die now - Jens!
Contador
leaving training early. He has a major knee problem.
so Cadel vs. Frandy
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
wow - is this the perfect chance for Schlecks to both stand on the podium?
I hope Basso crashes the party…oops, not a good choice of words…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
*sigh* We're losing all the interesting stories this tour
What could have been a great fight for a top 5 is looking to just be surviving the attrition
by randomgerbil on Jul 11, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It's actually directly from Contador's Twitter:
Contador:
knee is not good. I come back for ice and we ll see. I hope…strong for rest of tour.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think he will be fine (in relative terms with the crashes and Giro fatigue).
Result of these types of teets and “rumours” will be a crowded press meeting at Saxo today at 16.00.
Who knows? We'll see in an hour's time..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i'll correct that typo for you, 15.00 for presser
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
any time
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
His knee hurts, he'll do his best
That’s all you will hear.
I’m sure his knee hurts. I’m pretty sure he will try his best.
But he now has an excuse to lose.
Which is the point for Conta I think now.
He’s not at his best, imo.
It doesn't seem smart to reveal your weakness to your competitors in the middle of a competition
could this be… strategery?
I see what you did there
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm on your wavelength for sure
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
crap. crap crap crap.
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Check Cycling Central Twitter. It's updating regularly.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think it's worth pointing out
that the first rest day of the Tour tends to co-incide with the World Sandbagging Championships.
by ike2112 on Jul 11, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
According to one of the commentors on Danish TV the other day.
Bertie always prefer to sleep most of the rest day and skip the whole training.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi.
"If I couldn't play for the Colts, I would probably stop playing football." - Peyton Manning.
by gizzardfanny on Jul 11, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Meant to continue...
… don’t know how much of the short training is due to this preference and how much due to bad knee.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi.
"If I couldn't play for the Colts, I would probably stop playing football." - Peyton Manning.
by gizzardfanny on Jul 11, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
All I have to say
is I hate the fact that Hoogie was taken out like this. Losing a possibility to win the stage is something that probably sucks most to him.
I think we, the ´neutral´ cyclingfans, lose a lot more. Hoogie would’ve given this tour a lot of great stages, trying to defend his dots. I hope some riders will be able to fill the gap and fight out those otherwise pretty ‘boring’ first 150km of the stage
I was not a fan before, but I admired his grit, grace and his passion on Stage 9. He has a new fan.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
He's got a looot of passion
He’d have gone at least 4 more times in the break this tour. There aren’t many riders who can do it. it’s a big loss.
I’ve never been a huge Vino-fan, but his loss also is a big loss for the race. These riders really give us some unpredictable and exciting racing. it’s a shame they’re out
voeckler in yellow might be fun, by the way. back to the armstrong-age
Let nothing take us back to the Armstrong Age...but yes, Tommy V. will honour the jersey,
and I will certainly miss Vino in the race.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I have a feeling Andy Schleck is about ready to take us back to the Armstrong age
The leopard train will rival disco’s putting everyone on the rivet halfway up the last mountain, and Andy will finish it off. If he wins this race, I fear an even greater focus by riders on only trying to win one stage race a year. Plus, it will be eons before anyone tries the Giro-Tour double or even rides the Giro if they want to place well in the Tour.
An Andy win is bad for cycling in my opinion. The well-oiled machine, the singular team goal is all impressive, but it makes for dreadfully boring and predictable racing.
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
As much as I am a fan of Stuey, my heart is with Cadel. That said, George is driving a disco train,
as is Stuey. Captains on the road and they know it works. I’m glad though that Evans is still very much a one off…and along with many others, I’ll be praising George and all of the BMC team if he wins.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It seems as if the focus on either Tour or Giro + Vuelta is happening anyway.
I’m not convinced an Andy win, or a Bert win, or a Cadel win, or an Ivan Basso win would make a difference on that score.
well a bert win
might do just the opposite – obviously the giro-tour double, plus the other races that he races to win in the spring. A Cadel win might be neutral. I think the point is that andy rides very exclusively for the tour so a win by him would reinforce the tendency that you mention.
+1
Would prefer Evans winning as he also enters other races to win, i.e. TA, TdR etc. A Schleck is a one race rider. Not good for cycling imo.
I think so as well but he does have some fans here
I think I was more of a fan a few years back. Maybe it was my imagination but he seemed to actually race to win back then.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
+100
I want a cyclist and not a Tour de Francist to win the Tour. Nothing against him as a person but I’m sick of seasons like his from top riders.
by Phil H. on Jul 11, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure we know how Andy will ride in the future.
He has finished 2nd in the last two years – it seems unsurprising to me that his focus would be right on the TdF this year. IF he wins (and let’s not make that out to be anything guaranteed) this year, I think time will tell what goals he and and his management set. He is, after all, still a fairly young rider.
by KnittingGene on Jul 11, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He has never looked to do anything after the Tour either
of course we’ll not know until it happens but he doesn’t seem like someone who will suddenly become a more active rider. And as many have pointed out, he has never won a stage race, looking to win one may help his cause.
True. TDF win could
remove a monkey from his back
or at least swap the monkey for something more desirable. Like a pony.
SO Hoogerland has dropped out?
I’ve missed the report.
If Peyton Manning crashed onto a barbed-wire fence and returned to a game, you’d never hear the end of it for the rest of your life.
I wondered about that too...I think it's just the way Reeep has expressed himself?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Just saw a tweet quoting him as comitted to start tomorrow.
If Peyton Manning crashed onto a barbed-wire fence and returned to a game, you’d never hear the end of it for the rest of your life.
Good on him...it's going to hurt big time...but at least it's not a head injury.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Geraint Thomas
Very impressed by this guy.
Here‘s a link to some videos he’s made during the tour.
Could Thomas make a bid for white?
I know Gesink is favourite, but he’s been suffering for a few days. I know Taaramae can climb too, but Thomas has looked very strong so far. I don’t really know how he goes in the mountains though – will they be too much for him? Will be be working for someone like Uran now Wiggo has gone?
He was over 2 hrs down on Contador in last years tour by the end
He’s very much a cobbled classics rider rather than a climber so unless he’s gone through massive changes then a bid for white is really out of the question.
by randomgerbil on Jul 11, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he's much more than a cobbled classics rider. He has demonstrated that already this Tour.
But I agree that the high mountains are not his thing.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
think he might surpise a few people
Not his thing, but his form is good so may bring a good showing in the mountains.
No.
Even though Gesink is likely to be exhausted in the final Tour week, he should easily outclimb Thomas on the big cols.
by blackswangreen on Jul 11, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks to both
I genuinely had no idea! Hoping he might get in to a breakaway at some stage now he has a free(er) rein.
(re)Tweet of the day
the good news about hoogerland & flecha’s crash was that their saddles were level when it happened. @Vaughters
Some riders had to level their saddles just before the start of the TTT
UCI complained, teams whined.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Before the TTT the UCI(?) checked that all the riders' saddles were level.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Good one JV
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I should have been more clear
JV actually retweeted this from someone else: @memeott. Credit where credit is due.
He still gets credit for the retweet.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Rest day you say?
Tell that to my legs after the Tourmalet this morning.
PS any PdC folks around Luz fancy a beer?
it went ok i guess
It was my first Col for 2 years after I did a Vino 2 years ago (left hip though).
I was majorlee sooffrin on the last 500m but it’s done.
Luz Ardiden in the morning if the knees are up for it. Laptop death means no sharing until I get back.
So you got a new hip? Chapeau!
It’s hard enough as it is. Can’t imagine how it must have felt after such surgery.
So French, so glam
Could be a scene from a black and white and Audrey Hepburn just off camera.
Voeckler is so on my team next year!
Mise en scène:
The flowers, croissants, sandwiches, fruits,… L’Equipe
Looks like a well prepared photo to me
Oh but it looks so natural.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
You mean you don't start every day like this?
Dude, you’re missing out.
"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.
by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not like you have to pay a licensing fee every time you have a croissant...
"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.
by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
They always do
"First you have to be cool, after you are cool then you can be strong" -- Davide Appollonio
This could be the news of the day: Jens is setting up a Twitter account now.
StueyOG STUART O’GRADY
Jens has taken the bait…. Now it’s time to reel the big German in …. Standby
22 minutes ago
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well I am. It has to be more fun than what we saw yesterday.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
This is the real important news for today
Schlecket tweets “”http://twitter.com/#!/andy_schleck/status/90372940612374528">Good news today we gonna put Jens on twitter!"
I credit this to O'Grady of course. I made a bet with someone here that he could make this happen :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I hope for a Cadel victory but given the mishaps
I’d be happy if he and the rest of the riders made it to the end without any major injuries. It is almost a win just to have gotten through the first week unscathed.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
What team are you most disappointed in so far?
For me it’s Katusha, they should have been a lot more active in this race than they have been.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
Except for Mr Mullet yesterday, and forays by Kolobnev, they've been all but invisible.
I thought that Liqui were being too low key, but that may yet be smart.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Maybe Basso is coming into form and they don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet
But then again maybe they arereally that bad right now.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
They're not bad. They still have all their team, and Basso is gaining ground.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You may be right
Maybe he’ll show himself when we hit the big climbs. I wonder how he stacks up these days though, haven’t really seen him in awhile.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
It's a year ago since he won the Giro, and he may not have much racing in his legs, but he's relatively fresh.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I don't think they know exactly what they have
or what their ultimate aim is, and won’t know until Basso hits a proper mountain.
If he gets dropped by the likes of Coppel or Peraud, then expect to see Daniel Oss in the break the next day…
Definitely smart
Any criticism of a GC contender should wait until Stage 12.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Katusha would be my choice too
They done f@$% all so far.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
On one of the other threads
Someone pointed out that Katusha has a $15 million budget.
What a colossal waste of money.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Katusha has been very poor. Irrelevant so far. In fact with Brutt Force out of the race, the chances of them doing anything is even smaller now.
The only real chance left for Katusha is if Galymzianov stills some sprint win.
"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike
.
aah yes, forgot him.
Any word on why he hasn’t featured in any of the sprints yet?
He has tried
Best was sixth in stage 7. But he’s young, is up against the very best and has limited team support in terms of sprint trains etcetera.
Limited team support.
That begs the questions: What is the plan?
You've seen the opening scene of the documentary
Enemy at the Gates, yes?
"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.
by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I was actually referring to their motivational techniques.
“One of you gets the bike with the gears, the other gets the bike with the brakes. If either of you stay behind, you will be shot.”
"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.
by omnevelnihil on Jul 12, 2011 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Katusha didn't do a lot
Neither did Lampre, and Saur… I understand Saur is the smallest team, but I expected to see them in more breakaways in the first week.
Yes to Saur being too passive. What are the waiting for?
Coppel to suddenly take yellow?
Yeah, not very impressed with them thus far
Don’t seem to be making much of an effort. NetAPP showed themselves more in their big races so far. Not good for a French team in the biggest race in the world on home soil.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
well, saur rider did win most agressive in stg 7 iirc
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Saur needs to justify being there and not justify the belief they shouldn't be
alas they shouldn’t be there it seems
I didn't know they were in the race
I at least knew Katusha was there, they tried to get Galimzyanov to the line a couple times.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Saur are sucking
They’re only there cos they’re French, and they ought to be going in the breaks in the same madcap way Vacansoleil are. Remember Vacan are without their 2 GC riders they originally signed, they’re without the French climber they had last year (Brice Feillu), yet they’re still firing people into the breaks, challenging in sprints, holding the maillot á pois.
Saur however have done virtually nothing. Am I enjoying watching them rather than Valls Ferri, Carlos Sastre, Fabio Felline, Fabio Duarte and David De La Fuente? No. I am still finding them more interesting than Menchov. I think given the crashed we’ve had in this Tour, it’s a blessing to us all that Menchov is not taking part.
Saur is there because Jerome Coppel is French
And the GC standings haven’t really started to sort out yet.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
BUT last year
Vacan + Sprinty Leafy + Climby Leafy = no Tour
They left out the most entertaining team in the peloton, and 2 of France’s young hopes.
I think Coppel isn’t even going to be top frenchman. In fact he might not get French podium if Jeannesson climbs ok.
The playing field for invitations was way different last year
ASO didn’t give a wildcard invite to ANY French team. ASO had 6 wildcard invitations. 4 went to ProTour teams (Sky, RS, Garmin and Katusha). 1 to BMC and 1 to Cervelo.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Hey, I was agreeing with you.
That’s the ASO’s criteria, not mine.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Meh
They have some responsibility to French cycling. The Tour doesn’t completely belong to the world. Is it cool? Not really, but I def understand.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand preference
Like, take Cofidis and FdJ and Europcar. But Saur? That’s a whole other level.
No but it needs to be more global and less regional because it is THE global cycling event
as tgs points out they already have three French WCs, one int. WC was not going to kill them.
Both have Int. WCs this year
nor are they on the level of the Tour and their domestique teams are actually pretty strong.
Last year every wild card was foreign.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Liquigas
They’ve been completely spared of crashes, and I’m still not convinced they’re actually there.
So it's a secret source?
#picklesonionscheeselettuceonasesameseedbun
"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.
by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Today I got an invite to go to Grenoble for the TT and to drink lots of beer
Unfortunately I’ll be on the beach in Italy during that time so I won’t be able to go. If it weren’t for my wijf, I would be France bound!
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
Rock and a hard place.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ha! She's been planning this trip for good bit now so I don't want to even mention the invite
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
How do you know she wants to be on the Italian beach with you?
Maybe she’ll be happy to have free rein for a week while you’re in France.
/potstirring
"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.
by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
She made the reservations and everything along with tons of day trips
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
However
“lekker wijf” is invariably appreciated (ignore rare protests purely for form).
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
Do Dutch rappers often use "Wijf" then?
by Phil H. on Jul 11, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder what rapping sounds like in Dutch/German/Scandavian langauges
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
by ncrow on Jul 11, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only one that comes to mind
De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig – Watskeburt? (The Netherlands)
by tgsgirl on Jul 11, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Swedish
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MC Miker G and DJ Sven – Holiday Rap (1986) in English, more or less
Osdorp Posse – Briljant, Hard en Geslepen (1996) in Amsterdams
Postmen – Cocktail (1998) in English
De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig – Sterrenstof (2010) in Dutch, more or less
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
by tedvdw on Jul 11, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't want to post that other Jeugd van Tegenwoordig song
don’t think the censor-happy countries would like it much
West-Vloams
That sucked
Was it you who linked to this? That song sounds a bit familiar.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hell, if we're going Belgian rather than Dutch
by tgsgirl on Jul 11, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've changed radio station so many times because of that
thing
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the shit out of that song.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But is it rap? (don't think so)
Some rapping in Magic Friend (Belgian production, Dutch act)
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
Danish:
Østkyst Hustlers – Han får for lidt (More Cowbell!)
Den Gale Pose – Spændt op til lir
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"If I couldn't play for the Colts, I would probably stop playing football." - Peyton Manning.
by gizzardfanny on Jul 12, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Blue Scholars. That is all.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Kill!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
hm
not everyone should rap
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So, what is everyone doing for the rest day to unwind from the last week of racing?
Me? I’m going on a 2 hour trail run today after work.
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Nice
Contemporary stuff or old Django style swing?
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hm, every night it's something different (obviously), have to look
actually the Nice jazz festival is as much pop as anything else – more of a music festival than jazz – though we saw some brilliant jazz last night by a guy named Michel Portal – wow! There’s another stage, but looks like tonight i’ll be seeing Trombone Shorty and Orleans Avenue and then Avishai Cohen (hopefully jazz and not the yiddish folk music thing he’s been into lately). Tomorrow night is keziah jones and then maceo parker on one stage and then Roy hargrove, ahmad jamal and wynton marsalis on the other.
Troy!
Love Shorty—have seen him play several times in New Orleans, both at Jazz Fest and Tipitina’s. He’s such a talented kid…have loved watching him on ‘Treme’ as well. Enjoy!
Seriously, that show just celebrates music so well.
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by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it developed really nicely.
I actually think it was better than the first one in a lot of ways.
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by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
yep...
just a love letter to music, especially the local musicians. really well done also in terms of depicting the city post-Katrina.
a favorite clip with Troy and Wynton Marsalis:
Thanks for the clip
That was fucking cool.
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by omnevelnihil on Jul 11, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
de nada...
I’m a wee bit fangirlish about him. he was the youngest musician to get his own Jazz Fest poster, which was a big honor. just a really talented kid (only 23, I think) from one of those storied multi-generational New Orleans musical families. he’s actually from the Treme neighborhood too.
yeah, saw him a couple years ago
at nice jazz festival – back when it had one of the stages in an old roman amphitheatre – twilight and just after and fantastic moon in the sky behind the stage – and fantastic concert – magical. Last night he started off slow but then hit stride and in the end just brought the house down – came out for like 5 or 6 encores – you could see just how hyped and excited he was. Besides himself, the pianist and drummer are just exceptional.
And Trombone Shorty, or Troy i guess from above – fantastic! What a blast!! What a night!
post office (once every 3 week trip) and gas in the car
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Sounds like a fun day!
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Why every 3 weeks?
Is it far away?
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
about 10 miles or so. just don't get much mail is all. i throw about 9/10s of what i get out anyway at the post office.
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of course, maybe i'll just pawn it off on hubby to add to his list for friday's activities. what's one more stop for him anyway, right?
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The old honey do list!
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
current list
thursday: he and bunny drive down from NoVa
friday: drop puppies off at the vet, hit three groceries stores on the way back to the house. start laundry. once the tour stage is over, figure out problems with the docking drives. then, go to (post office?,) costco on the way back up to pick up puppies from vet (hopefully early before the southbound weekend traffic gets too bad on 95).
saturday: more laundry
sunday: he and bunny return to NoVa (unless one of the puppies has to go back in for surgery)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
looks like hubby WILL be doing the post office (and gas in the car) trip.
went out to go, and lo and behold, the review mirror had fallen off. oh well.
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by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Work, go home for dinner and then pack for vacation.
Hmm, vacation.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm on vacation now and spotty internet access has made my TDF viewing a challenge thus far...
But, vacation is BLISSSSSSssssss…
And lovely weather at the RI shoreline this year. Last year, same time, was very hot.
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
RI, as in Rhode Island?
People go there for vacation?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
haha - Only losers from Connecticut...
wait…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't one of the beaches of Maine be nicer this time of year?
I know so little about the Northeast.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, we've gone up to Maine before (I am more a mountains guy then a beach guy)...and also the Cape...but RI is not too bad.
We’re near Narragansett, RI right now. The beaches are good for children and we’re close to Jamestown (nice) and Newport (fun). Plus, only a couple hours from home…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Those densely-packed Northeastern states mystify me.
So close together.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
it's why we're grumpy bastards...too many people, too little space...
Get off my lawn…
Seriously though, I actually have more space here in the NE then I did when I lived in Colorado…ironic…
Some areas, are def more urban (Boston area), but there is a lot of space in the NE to get lost too. It’s beautiful here and the closeness means you can do the beach in the morning and mountains in the afternoon…very cool…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
So true...last year during the 'Hole in the Wall Camp' charity ride...
and Ashford redneck tried to run over about 20 of us in his lifted Dodge pickup…
(but Ashford is also beautiful cycling area with all the rolling hills, farms, country roads, etc)
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
First year I was up there, I'm riding along in Ashford
and some dude in a pick-up passes me.
Gun-rack, Confederate Flag sticker in the rear-window, and a pit-bull in the bed of the truck.
Almost forgot where I was.
In Connecticut? Seriously?
Wow.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
NE CT has some serious "banjo-playing" areas.
One of the oddest experiences of my life has to be the gig at the Nudist Camp up in Woodstock, CT.
A dance-floor full of paunchy middle-aged nudists is enough to make your bass-amp worthy of absorbed concentration.
The bitter irony of nudists
The actual nudists are the ones you most wish were clothed.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The "quiet corner" is what they call NE CT (and I believe it's a double meaning)...
Don’t get me wrong, it is nice up there…but it is somewhat ‘rural’ to put it nicely.
We did the Ragnar 24 hour running race through that section last year and the night-time legs were a little scary. Lot’s of bonfires dotting the countryside…almost felt like a lot of eyes were on you through the woods…sort of creepy all night long.
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Just finishing two weeks in right next to Callahan county before spending a month in CT
Where in CT? It's really not as bad as it sounds here (depending on which part of the state)...
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Stamford...
The gf is working there as part of her psych doctorate program, so i’ll be there for a month before starting school in Manchester UK in late August.
well, the shoreline is nice, but Stamford is more urban (NYC is close)...
If ya like the city, it’s cool…but if not, it will be tough. All in all, there are way worst places to be, though. Good luck with it. I’m in about the exact opposite part of the state (the northeast corner)…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Abilene
It’s where I grew up, and was spending a couple weeks visiting family/friends before leaving the country for 18 months
Just because the bears were staring at you and licking their tongues does not mean they were crowding you!
you are one of the few NEsterners that knows Colorado exists at least!
...and I know CO is SOOOOO much better...not even close.
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The Apls surely aren't!
yes it is a pain to realize I’m not all that far away from the Tour but far enough to have no shot to go(plus I’m not here for just vacay)
I remember driving up the west side of the Appalachians
After living in Colorado. It was like, look, there is a pretty mountain. And then, within five minutes, the mountain was behind me. In Colorado, the mountains just sit there. You might be driving for an hour before a particular mountain is behind you, while in the East Coast, they just fly by.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
the secret in the Appalachians is to drive north/south, not east/west...makes them last longer...
:)
Don’t get me wrong, CO is wonderful, but there are some gems here in the East. I’d say around Blacksburg and Charlottesville, VA and also Asheville, NC area. Just different types of mountains and a slower pace…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
I used to live near Charlottesville and love the Blue Ridge. But even if you drive North/South the mountains zoom by.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you been to Acadia?
It’s a mountains and the beach with lots of carriage paths to cycle on kind of destination. And lot’s of fat lobsters for sale too.
Super dope. Is that like EPO on steroids?
Park loop road + Mt Cadillac is a fun ride too
Did it last summer. My first real big (somewhat) climb!
nice reward at the top - great ocean views...
Would be a great morning ride – start in dark and finish in sunrise…
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Dude,
take your family to the Brick Alley Pub in Newport. The Lobster Mac & Cheese rocks!
In loving memory of Dale Earnhardt - 4/29/51 - 2/18/01
we went there last year. Very good food...
Last weekend I was down here too – and my Father-in-Law had a lobster fest. 2.5lb lobsters for each of us! I had to ride for 2 hours to work it off…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There are some nice cottages along the coast
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by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Work.
Bah.
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by gizzardfanny on Jul 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The trick is
to get the other 3 to double their workload, then reward yourself with a Leffe for your cleverness.
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Ha! I am really, really working for a change!
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Riis and Contador press conference
at 15.00 CET
Same thing I was wondering
No other reason to have a press conference IMO.
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LT had a press conference with the whole team this morning.
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Lol...I certainly hope not
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
yeah, SOP
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maybe he's announcing
he’s laying off the steak this year?
I hope Little Old Lady is tracking this...Danish TV will think it's very big news.
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Thank you!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
OK, this from the boring studio:
LOTS of replay of all the crashes, I could have done without that :(
Riis: Conta knee (bla bla bla) Cadel the favourite (bla bla bla), Andy needs to attack (bla bla bla)
Nygård: Conta still a favourite (bla bla bla) Cadel we wait and see (bla bla bla)
Sandbagging contest Riis/Nygård: 50/50
Interview with Saxo sponsor: Came out as a nice person, (and remember I don’t like the sponsor because of politics) he really like Riis, and do not interfere with the sporting decisions.
Interview with an expert in sports law: really good, sorry I am not able to retell it properly, but he said that Contadors victories this year should stand acording to the rules, and he had read all the rules.
Interviews with Fuglsang and CAS (CAS wins as the most charming). Fuglsang maybe in yellow after a breakaway (Nygård agree), CAS sure Conta will attac on stage 12 (Riis not)
Rolf Sørensen: Afraid Conta will leave the race after stage 12 because of the knee or tired.
Thats more or less the 2 hours studio ;)
by LittleOldLady on Jul 11, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for this. We always anticipate interesting things and we're usually disappointed.
I sincerely hope Contador is fit and able to race :)
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New interview with Riis
That man really puzzles me this year, I have never seen him so relaxed and smiling, it is as if he has a little smile inside him all the time.
But what ever, he said that the damage to the knee is muscular and nothing inside, so…..
by LittleOldLady on Jul 11, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, that was a good one
And I forgot to tell that Brian Holm is in danger of being thrown out of the race, he has got two fines for “sticky bidons” and if he get a third he will be thrown out :(
by LittleOldLady on Jul 11, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Saxo always have press meetings at the TdF on rest days.
And they tend to bring some key riders along for Q/A. No diff this year. Of couse we could hear some more details of the knww problem, but the PR schedule is normal bizz from Saxo.
I seem to remember that
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So, do we still want the traditional lunch report?
Here goes: Eat have done something weird to their Thai chicken baguette. I shan’t be purchasing it again.
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Lunch was string beans with chicken
Yum. Now I need a nap.
Jens! Voigt puts the 'laughter' in 'manslaughter'
And just because it seems appropriate to a rest day thread...
Anyone run across good cheeses lately?
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Emmi Cave Aged Gruyere
If Peyton Manning crashed onto a barbed-wire fence and returned to a game, you’d never hear the end of it for the rest of your life.
When's HTC's presser?
Today’s the sink or swim day for HTC re: 2012 sponsor.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Presume Tony Martin's gonna leave them regardless
If he wants to take GCing seriously, and it looks like he does, he needs to not be in a train. Same with Velits (who took turns in the train whilst on the Vuelta podium).
Whether the sponsor stays, Tony needs to leave. Katusha would probably pay big money for him too, as we’re seeing right now that they’re a 1-man GT team and he can’t ride all 3.
If I'm Garmin, I make a huge play for Tony Martin
Chances are, they lose Thor and Barbie Barbie at the end of the year, so they should have cash. he fits perfectly in their model of strong TTists who can climb a little.
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by PopUp Rolen on Jul 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally, for US cycling the optimal would be
a developing rivalry between Tejay on a still strong Highroad versus Talansky on Garmin. Two major US GC riders on competing US teams would be a great sponsor draw.
this
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
by PopUp Rolen on Jul 11, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed.
Would really prefer not to see them on the same team. Like really really a lot.
No guarantee of course that Van Garderen would go to Garmin-Cervélo. He spent his devo years at Rabo, so could go to Europe next if HTC is gone. Ugh! Please! Please don’t say HTC is gone.
What about PdC's very own
Peter Stetina?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony Martin is one of the best cyclists out there. But he’s not going to win a grand tour anytime soon.
Garmin needs a ringer. Not someone who can climb a little. They’ve had plenty of top 5 and top 10 performances.
Garmin seems focused on developing one instead of purchasing one on the open market.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
Tony Martin can win a GT just like Menchov and Ullrich could
give him one with lots of ITT kms and he can do it, he needs some more strength on the climbs but he has improved leaps and bounds over the last several years.
But harder climbs and less ITT miles are what's en vogue with grand tour organizers right now
And when Menchov won, say the 2009 Giro, he was in the top 3 on the mountain stages. Martin needs to show that he can only lose 30 seconds to Contador and Schleck on a savage mountain stage before defend-in-mountains-and-win-on-the-ITT play can work.
"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"
I see it as a cycle
the Giro will always be tough climbs(2009 was an anomaly) but the Tour and Vuelta will ease it up, plus I don’t think this year’s Tour or Vuelta routes are that unusual. Eventually another long TT will be put in place.
Ha Ha! Why Phil? Why?
What kind of sacrilege did I utter?
And Why not T Mart to Astana? Kruze looks happy there, no?
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I thought they had one more week before they gave up.
But they probably know a lot more today than they did two weeks ago.
Super dope. Is that like EPO on steroids?
Yup, second rest day
And there’s no HTC press conference today.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Found this more funny that it probably is...
but thought I’d share anyway.
http://polkpanther.tumblr.com/post/7459924607/vladimir-karpets-mulleted-russian-cycling-hero
CyclingCentral twitter:
Downbeat Contador presser. Business as usual. Knee is sore but try to recovery before Pyrenees, Wants to time his attack perfectly
Also doesn’t feel as fresh as usual because of the giro.
The way the media overanalyzes everything, I can't blame athletes for giving them a whole lot of nothing to work with...
Well at least I have 1995, 2000, and 2003. Those were fun.
by dees ees en drama on Jul 11, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Press conferences hardly present the interesting side of someone
plus it’s not in his native language. But of course he could just be a very boring person.
When he is not dancing on the pedals!
When climbing dance starts, he is most entertaining person in the World. IMO
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I want chateaus! Man, this is SO dull!
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I see what you did there
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
CAS interview on Danish TV.
Q: Why do you spend the rest day on your bikes?
A: We are just crazy about cycling, can’t get enough of it.
(Later he mentioned the of season moves of his hometown soccer team.)
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VeloNews has a great pic of Hoogs (in Polka Dots & bandages) riding with his dad.
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speaking of hoogie, a good article from the wall street journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303812104576439862756666174.html
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by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My ex sent me a Hoogie-pic earlier today
And she doesn’t even follow the sport (or any sport, for that matter). Sort of depressing.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
his dad's got fairly nice legs...
Wonder if he’s as nutz as his son or not…what I’d call “a chip off the old block”…
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Bah
Positive test for Kolobnev, according to L’Equipe. A masking agent.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
Laura will need consoling
Excellent.
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ha!
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Shh! No shoe talk in the doping tread! lol
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