Tourbecco's Take: Five Fun Tour de France Storylines
First weeks of the Tour de France are notoriously misleading. [Ladees and gents, I give you Kim Kirchen, maillot jaune!] Mostly it's keeping about your chances intact, physically and in whatever classification you're after. So while some of you insist on discussing the battle for the maillot jaune, others prefer to pace ourselves. But the Devil makes work for idle hooves, so I asked Tourbecco about his five favorite story lines. He's a bit difficult to work with (if you've ever met a goat you'll understand), so what I got back were his five questions, which I shall answer.
For the 25th Anniversary of the 1986 Tour, can we please have some internal team polemics?
Sadly, no. Heading into the Tour, the betting heavily favored a repeat of the AG2R polemics of last year, when John Gadret blew off team captain Nick Roche in rather pointed fashion when the latter needed a wheel change. Gadret has been superior on the bike to Roche, so if the memo went around the team bus that Roche was again the captain, Gadret was sure not to read it. Now, Gadret is over 18 minutes down, fourth on the squad, while Roche is enjoying more elite company, sitting a mere 3.45 down, thankyouverymuch. If Gadret draws anywhere near his 'mate, it'll be because the Irishman has blown more than a tire.
Polemics rarely repeat themselves, since they are fundamentally spontaneous in nature, so it was probably always going to require looking elsewhere. Omega Pharma had some brief tussling between Van Den Broeck and Gilbert, but that's solved several times over. Teams with multiple contenders -- the easiest source of strife -- are HTC, Garmin, Leopard and Rabobank, unlikely combatants. Surely someone, somewhere, despises a teammate, but unless it makes the news, it's no fun.
You're kidding about Danielson, right?
Ah... sure. Every year the Argyle Army offers up one big GC surprise: Christian Vande Velde, Ryder Hesjedal, Bradley Wiggins... and this year after a brief early mishap none other than Tom Danielson enters the mountains in excellent position, 4.22 back, just behind Alberto Contador. OK, maybe not excellent position but not too shabby and well in line for that surprise top ten result.
Personally, I'll believe it when I see it. I mean, yeah, it would be the surprise of the Tour if a 33-year-old American racing his first Tour de France after years of stunted growth at the grand tour level suddenly found himself in the company of the stars on Alpe d'Huez, chasing a podium spot. But with a proven leader on his heels (VandeVelde less than a minute back) the better bet is on Garmin getting behind the guy they've been waiting two years on. As opposed to the guy for whom we've been waiting forever.
Will you ever shut up about your Gilbert prediction?
Sadly, no. In fact, here is a recap of what I have said about Philippe Gilbert's green jersey prospects. First I said this:
Rating: Sleeper. My guess is that he stays out of the comp entirely and focuses on holding the yellow jersey in week one. But keep an eye on him.
And then I said this:
As hard as it is to pick between the competing approaches to winning... if they get real and give up on beating Cav so Gilbert can sprint and pad his points resume with top fives on the easy days, then I don't have to choose. Phast Phil can climb and sprint, so the competition is his to lose.
And some of you made fun of me, and then I backtracked on my argument probably, but none of that matters now. When does he pass Eric Vanderaerden on the All-Time Best of Belgium list? In Copenhagen, perhaps?
Levi Leipheimer is the new Rapinoe-to-Wambach, right?
I see we have the internet now in the pasture? OK, then no. I suppose the parallel isn't bad -- he is certainly being left for dead. And the idea of a late surprise where he claws back the 5+ minutes he needs to the presumed favorites isn't without near-precedent. Levi hung around the back of the 2007 Tour through the first wave of mountains, then stormed the podium with second on the Col d'Aubisque and first in the time trial. Replace Col d'Aubisque with Alpe d'Huez and presto! Hey, there's nothing wrong with the guy. Right? Right?
What year is it again?
Can we get a more pronounceable list of maillot blanc contenders?
Sadly, no. Currently the competition is led by Robert Gesink, which is pronounced HES-sink. Or maybe HAY-sink. Next, a serious threat, is Rein Taaramae, which is anywhere from three to eleven syllables long. Then there's Arnold Jeanneson, which is straightforward French, and thus anathema to British tongues. Next is Rob Ruijgh, which is pronounced by saying "roo" and then clearing your throat. None of these guys is going away, except maybe Gesink, who's hurt. Roo(ahem) just bagged 14th in the Dauphine, so there.
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Cue Dutchophile swooning in 3...
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Already had Ruijgh
http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/rob_ruijgh.mov
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
and now Gesink
http://ewoud.home.xs4all.nl/cycling/robert_gesink.mov
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
I have no accent!
(wawa:)
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
I’m unable to ride at the moment (knee).
But it was a great day. I was photographer for my friend.
"Long Live Cols" - ant1
wow, campolongo, giau, i'm jealous
maybe i’ll prepare for it next year… funny thing is i was in your neck of the woods (montreux?) yesterday, for a little bikeless (foot) race myself. Anyway, i hope you recover soon
No
I just spoke slowly and articulated well. Sounds different in normal speak, yes.
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
Now
work it into a rap
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Gesink is known as "Flower Boy" in my house.
I caught his bouquet at the podium of the San Jose stage of the ToC in 2008 and brought it home to my wife.
I'm trying to say Rein Taaramea with eleven syllables
I’m reminding myself of Dory from “Finding Nemo”.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
The Fab has to cook story is fun, no?
I think it’s wasted on the hottitude thread alone.
Andy: “You know, a little operation and you would make a perfect wife.”
Either they have some sort of regional priority
or there is some odd geoblock because since they changed it the damn thing is practically never accessible.
Ja, overloaded very fast
Still works pretty well on off hours.
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
Unfortunately, still not working for me in the US.
Although, oddly, I COULD watch another video that was linked on the same page. Thanks for trying. I wish I could see it – love the quote from Andy.
by KnittingGene on Jul 12, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Might work if you try again
I get the feeling that their servers are over capacity rather quickly.
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
This Tourbecco, he is funny.
The dudes are all being so nice to one another. There’s really a shocking lack of polemica within the teams at the moment. Very disappointing. Maybe things will change once the mountains begin.
Also, Levi? Wha? After the guardrail grinder, I’m having a hard time imagining a 4 minute resurrection. Especially against dudes like Evans and Andy-Fränk who haven’t had any crashy nonsense.
Heh, maybe Andy and Fränk could get in a fight on the Alpe d’Huez or something? That would add some polemica.
+1 on the Andy/Frank.
Hard (read, impossible) to imagine, but could you imagine Andy/Frank going at it on the top of the Alpe D’Huez a la Barredo/Costa 2010. That would surely be a highlight of polemica for years to come
Ha ha, yeah
It would amazingly amusing, though a little sad, since like they’re brothers and stuff. Hmm, maybe we’ll have to find our entertainment elsewhere. Is it wrong that I like a little polemica with my bike racing?
Is it wrong
to like some hot hab sauce on your burrito? Surely not!
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
We could always generate our own controversy
by killing Tourbecco again. I know people. Just say the word and I’ll contact the butcher of Malmö
Jens! Voigt puts the 'laughter' in 'manslaughter'
Make it happen!!
Ratings would be all-time. I would order the World Cycling Productions DVD. Chaos would reign!
I think Andy should know that Frank said he looks fat.
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That seems like a good start, right?
Dude, the team kit makes your ass look sooo big. Think it’ll work?
also Frank
mom loves Andy more
If cobble delusions are wrong, who wants to be right? -JFS PGH
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
is that a ferrari reference?
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
ha!
I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.
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Andy And Fränk argue telling the other to take the honours (stage or jersey wise), which escalates into an all out fist fight.
by professorfate on Jul 11, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
although these are hockey players...
alex semin (the one without the jersey) is NOT known to fight, and I imagine the Schleck Slapfest would somewhat resemble this
Because like...
there’s no chance Fränk would crash, or Andy would botch a shift at a key moment…
"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti
My fave moment of Tour so far
Tivo is not very pleased, this damned yellow jersey is going to stop him getting in breaks for a few days.
Remember all the gossip about Thor - Vaughters polemica?
What happened to that.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 11, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions
Thor in yellow
And Garmin riding hard to support him.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 12, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
probably no one will see this,
but if we’re already talking about Copenhagen . . . I’d love to see Gilbert take it, but surely this is a dream course for Goss? My $5 is on him.
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
I saw it
And i agree, if the Australian team decides to ride for him he’s certainly one of the favourites (especially because he will have a very strong team to back him)
Australia may have too many who want to win and not enough support?
Goss and Haussler are both perfect and Renshaw beat everyone but Breschel in the trial run of the course at the To Denmark last year (Goss punctured on the final lap unfortunately so we didn’t get to see him). If they decide who to ride for they will be the team to beat (they have more riders than any of the other big sprinter nations too).
Yeah
I think it’ll be hard to pick a leader among the Aussies. Lots of sprint talent there. I hope Barbie is on good form, though :D
interesting
I don’t think Haussler will be in the mix but yeah, between Goss and Renshaw that’s tough . . . I’m guessing they all work for Goss though.
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by plinytheelder on Jul 12, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Form should obviously be the decider in a rational world
but this is the last sprinterfriendly course for a few years so I suspect the manager will have a bit of work to settle the egos. If I was the manager/selector I would have Goss for the sprint with Barbie and Gerrans as spoilers/attackers making sure Aus don’t have to work too much to bring the race together for the sprint.
This race could just as easily come down to a group sprint between a breakaway. Gilbert vs. Haussler & Cancellara rather than Cav vs. Goss, Boonen & Breschel and that wouldn’t suck either.

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