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Tour de France Stage 16 Preview!

Tour de France, stage 15, start. Photo: Bryn Lennon/Getty.

The Tour de France resumes after the second rest day with this 162.5 kilometer stage between Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux and Gap. In its final week, the Tour rolls inexorably toward its grand finale with the two mountaintop finishes on the col du Galibier and the Alpe d’Huez and the time trial in Grenoble.

Tuesday’s stage is a classic transition stage that brings the Tour into the shadow of the Alps. The Tour has visited Gap on twenty previous occasions. The storied Alpe d’Huez sits just up the road to the north.

Though there is only one categorized climb on the profile, the stage runs steadily uphill from the start. It’s the sort of uphill false flat grinding that saps the legs. After running mostly uphill for 130 kilometers, the road drops steeply into Gap. In a cruel tease, the riders pass through the finish at 23 kilometers to go.

Star-divide

Then, it’s on to the final climb of the day, the Col de Manse. A category 2, the col de Manse climbs 9.5 kilometers at 5.2%. There’s a nasty 7.8% section around the midway point. The final climb summits with 11.5 kilometers left to race.

The run-in to Gap is fast and technical. Watch for BMC Racing to take control of the main field here, much as they have whenever the road has turned tricky in this Tour de France. All the same, the col de Manse should not cause the general classification riders too much difficulty. If Samuel Sánchez is feeling cheeky, he could snatch some time on the descent to the finish. A determined sprinter could chase back on during the descent to the finish, but it’s no easy task. Somewhere, Philippe Gilbert is smiling.

The breakaway’s chances look good for Tuesday’s stage. The false flat climbing will make the chase difficult and with the climb so close to the finish, the sprinters’ teams may hesitate to commit to the pursuit. Riders like Sandy Casar and Sylvain Chavanel will like this course with its late climb and technical descent. Expect a fast and furious first hour as the many teams who have not yet enjoyed the podium kisses fight for a spot in the early escape.

For the general classification riders, Tuesday is a stage to stay out of trouble. Though it is not a day to play for the Yellow Jersey, this stage is no rest day for the race favorites. The teams will have some work to do to keep their captains out of trouble on the tricky roads into Gap. Riders like Cadel Evans, Andy and Fränk Schleck, Ivan Basso, and Alberto Contador will have to ride at the front, which means a hard day for their teams. Wednesday’s stage from Gap to Pinerolo poses similar challenges. But that, my friends, is a story for another day.

Here is the current general classification.

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Somewhere, Philippe Gilbert is smiling.

Somewhere, I am too.

by tgsgirl on Jul 18, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It will be tough

I made a Google spreadsheet you can play with to come up with what if scenarios. It’s impossible for Gilbert to take it. I say the best effort is for OPL to help Movistar try and drop Cavendish in the Alps for good.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/bonggg.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AvwGv6eWjCaUdHkyVnNHalU5cExHeHE3R25COUd6V3c&output=html

"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"

by ncrow on Jul 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean to say "almost impossible" by the way

Clearly, it is mathematically possible.

"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"

by ncrow on Jul 18, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Gil

has been a brilliant addition to this Tour

"Long Live Cols" - ant1

by Willj on Jul 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

He seems to be having the time of his life. Even the attacks that have not succeeded have been done with a relish and joy that is a treat to watch.

by bdr on Jul 18, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+many

Gave the green jersey comp. an additional dimension.

by Uphill on Jul 18, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remind me again, how many stages has he won this year?

And how many times has he been singled out as the pre-stage favourite? ;)

by Holdenmate on Jul 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter

Even if he loses, he entertains. He attacks. He dares.

by tgsgirl on Jul 18, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he rides like he is enjoying himself.

If he does what seems a silly attack, I think he just wants to ride

"Long Live Cols" - ant1

by Willj on Jul 18, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to me it doesn't

which is all I was talking about. I love it when he wins, but most of all, I love it when he tries.

by tgsgirl on Jul 18, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to disagree with that

I’m merely suggesting that for all his positive riding in this Tour, he hasn’t really got all that much to show for it. Gilbert has been on fire, and is a pleasure to watch, I’m not disputing that. At all.

by Holdenmate on Jul 18, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were drinking anything

My laptop would be wet right now.

he hasn’t really got all that much to show for it.

One day in yellow
Seven days in green
Three days in polkadot

He has donned all three jerseys, and not because he was second either. He led all three classifications.

One stage win
Three podium spots
Five top fives
Seven top tens

by tgsgirl on Jul 18, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Just finished looking that up and was about to post something similar. A first, two 2nd’s, a 4th, a 5th a 7th and a 10th. So he’s finsihed top 10 in half the stages so far.

"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti

by jsallee00 on Jul 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh please...

…that’s the silliest thing you’ve said just to perpetuate an argument you’re clearly losing in a long, long time. Learn when to let it go.

by Ed K on Jul 18, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Translation

Thor Rules! All others are chumps.

by Jens on Jul 19, 2011 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thor: one stage win, seven days in a jersey
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Phil: one stage win, 11 days in a jersey

by tgsgirl on Jul 19, 2011 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the discussion moved on to

“Other chumps failing to live up to the victorious ways of Thor” (Geelong WC)

by Jens on Jul 19, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

And how else would any Norwegian argue against a Belgian touting Phil...

gs…I’m almost with you but 11 days in ‘jerseys’ is not the same as seven days in yellow and valiantly defended.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Jul 19, 2011 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, I'd have put them about level

Before today. After today Thor is wining.

by tgsgirl on Jul 19, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he's Phil, gs..

For a guy like Thor that would be a great Tour… ;) Phil has won 1 of 15 stages… He’s just missed out on the win a couple of times… He’s been the preemptive favourite on a number of stages.. It’s not like we’re talking about a lowly Tommy Voeckler here… It’s Philip Gilbert, for crying out loud! Phil’s been trying hard to win green and he’s likely to fail. Even Baden Cooke was able to win green, girl… ;) No, Phil could have done much better.

by Holdenmate on Jul 18, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know when winning %33 of stages you were favoured in became bad. The only guy doing better is Cav.

And even he has been beaten 3 times on stages he was favoured in.

Baden cooke won green with one stage win and a McEwen relegation. If the other pure sprinters were doing better relative to Cav Phil Gil would be faring much better in this competition. The 45 points for flat stage wins favours the 4-6 stage winner over the one stage winner.

Not a phil phanatic but to say he is doing poorly is an insult to a positive, panache filled ride. 200 people line up every stage trying to win. Not winning is not the same as failing. To say phil has phailed is setting the standard too high, even for Phil.

'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia

by bought with blood on Jul 18, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

An insult, you say? Please read my post again.

If anything it’s an insult to the “lowly Voeckler”… I’d have thought that would have tipped you guys (and gals) off that I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. But I should have realized that saying anything remotely critical of the Belge demi-god would cause an uproar. :)

First of all, I agree with every word you say. Phil is having a great tour. The new green jersey rules favour bunch sprinters like Cav, to an extent that even in a year when the course favours puncheurs like Phil and the fantastic TV, the fastest bunch sprinter in the world is likely to take hom green. Phil has not failed, even though he’s set the bar very high for himself with his fantastic exploits the past couple of years, and especially this season.

Secondly, I never said that he is “doing poorly”, that his win rate is “bad” or that he has failed. I said that he’s likely to fail to win the green jersey competition. I said that he could have done much better. I stand by those two statements. But in a more sober and not tongue-in-cheek post (this one) the latter should probably read: Phil could have done better. With a little more luck, he could easily have won two more stages (5 and 8).

When you say he’s been the favourite three times that may be true. But his name sure has been highlighted in the stage previews by the pundits (not just here, everywhere) on a number of stages. That’s perfectly understandable, but it’s also what provoked my intial question to tgsgirl. (Note the wink, btw). Let’s not take this too seriously.

by Holdenmate on Jul 19, 2011 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"He will sooner grow flowing locks of golden Bon Jovi-hair from his bald and barren head." - Jens discussing the possibility of Riis bringing a sprinter to a Pistol/GC fight.

by omnevelnihil on Jul 19, 2011 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

break composition

Roy, delage, izaguirre, gerrans?, gilbert, token sour sojasun,
hondo, chavannel and jens.

In search of a new tagline.

by perezbike on Jul 18, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Not Jens!

Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...

by TheFigurehead on Jul 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way Gilbert makes it in the break

With HTC’s GC guys off the leaderboard, I’m assuming their main goal tomorrow is to keep Gilbert out of the break

I picked Riccardo Ricco for my 2011 VDS team, and submitted said team well before the submission deadline. I fully understand the error of my ways, and plead with the VDS Gods to allow me to resubmit my team.

by PopUp Rolen on Jul 18, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he doesnt make it

You are rigth on htc. But he will make their lives hell trying.
I would like to see the 1st hour tomorrow. Really.

In search of a new tagline.

by perezbike on Jul 18, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Me too.

I think the first hour will rock the casbah in a big way :D

by Jen See on Jul 18, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There's a reason they're forgetting about the Shack.

:-)

"If Peyton Manning crashed onto a barbed-wire fence and returned to a game, you’d never hear the end of it for the rest of your life." Jason Gay

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just look for the blood on the side of the road. Much of it screams SHACK!

'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia

by bought with blood on Jul 18, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would make me most happy

If Thomas De Gendt and Grega Bole could join.

by tgsgirl on Jul 18, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

de gendt

I like this idea. Agressive riders are always welcome.
I was thinking hondo vs bole…one of them should be there.

In search of a new tagline.

by perezbike on Jul 18, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No No Bole!!!

I could definitely go along with him getting 80 more VDS points.

'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia

by bought with blood on Jul 18, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just playing around with fact

that Marcato has been mistaken for De Gendt on numerous occasions. But yeah for a sprinter, Bole sure can climb. He impressed the hell out of me in the Tour of Poland last year. Go Bole!

by Holdenmate on Jul 19, 2011 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add Tejay to the break

He has been looking and this is a good one for him

by ncmussell on Jul 18, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh, getting better all the time :)

Would love to see Tejay out chasing a stage win. I like that dude.

by Jen See on Jul 18, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We get two picks each, right?

Surprisingly, I pick Thor and EBH. It worked out all right the last time…

by Holdenmate on Jul 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would like to see van der flecha

But I guess he is not recovered yet

In search of a new tagline.

by perezbike on Jul 18, 2011 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I guess he could dart down the descent to the finish

but I think Gerrans, as you say, is a more likely participant in the break. At least I can very well picture Sky wanting to put Simon in the break. If they’ll succeed that is another matter. There will probably be a lot of guys aiming for that early break tomorrow.

by Holdenmate on Jul 18, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh, good call on Gerrans

This is a good finish for him, and he’s been vewy vewy kwiet so far this Tour.

by Jen See on Jul 18, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. I see that the town of "Die" is just to the North and West of Gap.

Like something out of a Clint Eastwood western

[Pigilito has a] lifetime stupid statement pass [on PdC] -- Yeehoo

by pigilito on Jul 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Entered "France" and "Gunslingers" into Google

result

"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti

by jsallee00 on Jul 18, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember reading Lucky Luke in French when I was a kid

but it took place in the wild West. Great stuff.

[Pigilito has a] lifetime stupid statement pass [on PdC] -- Yeehoo

by pigilito on Jul 18, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Goss

Really talking up his chances in this one.

by jack daniels on Jul 18, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Must be feeling better

This stage would be a lock for the Matt Goss we saw in Paris Nice.

Me? I think this will either go to the break, Gilbert, Thor or maybe Rojas. My best guess is Thor for a 2nd stage win, perhaps from the break.

"Oh man, it’s going to take days to kill all these people!"

by ncrow on Jul 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great photo!

I hope some of the injured are feeling much better — and will come out to play.

by paisley on Jul 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

lots of rain in Gap

Plus, plus plus de pluie!!!

We're all just coffee addicts - with a cycling problem:
(not fast enough to hold the wheel of those we watch)

by Marcus in Oz on Jul 19, 2011 6:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

dreech day in the alps

The weather here on Bourg d’Oisans is minging.

by Guinea on Jul 19, 2011 6:46 AM EDT reply actions  

got a spot in a garden for my tent

Already yesterday pretty much everything was sold out.

Half of the population of Holland and Belgium are here it seems.

by Guinea on Jul 19, 2011 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

was hoping to get up l'Alpe today

But I’ve no arctic gear, so I’ll probably go for a VTT tour to avoid hypothermia :)

by Guinea on Jul 19, 2011 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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