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You win some, you lose some

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As always, there are two sides to every story, and so thus with this year's Tour de France. At the end of three weeks of arduous racing, we end up with happyfaces and sadfaces, joy and pain, elated boys and broken men, winners and losers.

Some tales are obvious - Cadel, winner; JVDB, so not winner - some are less clear-cut. Below the jump, I talk Cancellara, ill-fitting jerseys, medicinemen and Denis Menchov as I round up some winners, and some losers. Care to join me?

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Winners

1 French cycling -

One of the easier ones to begin with, French cycling came out better than your average Johnny Depp-with-kids picture. Voeckler showed skill and determination, Rolland won the Alpe D'Huez queen stage, they got 3/4 for the white jersey and placed no less than five compatriots in the top 20. And all this in the year when everything looked just that little bit harder, times up mountains were just a little bit slower, everyone looked just a little more tired... In short, things looked cleaner. Whether they really were, only time will tell, but with the evil monsters of doping banished to a kingdom far, far away - or at least hidden in a secret closet somewhere - the Frenchies came out smelling like roses.

2 Doctors -

Man, did they have a lot of work this year. It may have slipped people by because the end of the Tour was so great; but the beginning was pretty damn shit. 33 stitches for one Dutchie, 8 for another, an unidentified amount for a third. Collapsed lungsbroken hipsconcussions, swollen ankles, broken arms and busted collarbones... and those are just the injuries I can remember from the top of my head. I haven't even mentioned Steegmans, Willems, Vande Walle, Popo, Kloden, Brajkovic, Levi, Sorensen, Flecha, Velasco, Contador, Barredo, De Gendt, my poor Ametxa, DZ-Nuts, Kreuziger, Horner, Chava, Coppel... Did I get them all now?
Come to think of it though, the doctors could just as well fit in the losers category, but man did they fuck up a lot this Tour. I'm all for HTFU, but letting guys ride on with concussions for days, undiagnosed broken wrists and hands, correctly diagnosed broken arms... sometimes these guys have to be protected against themselves.

3 The yellow jersey -

The yellow jersey, the dream of so many cyclists. Except the very best unless it's the very final day, cause that yellow jersey, it brings some friends with it. Post-stage interviews. Picture sessions. Sponsor obligations. Race obligations. Work duties for your men. Hence why most years, some middle-of-the-road cyclist usually accidentally ends up in yellow. Middle-of-the-road man is over the moon at the best racing days of his life; the big guns are happy to let him have it. Everyone's happy. Except maybe the race organisers, who don't quite like it when the greats aren't a fan of their kit. Nocentini in 2009, Schumacher in 2008, Oscar Pereiro in 2006 - how did that work out for you, peloton? - DZ in 2005... you get my point.

This year though (as in 2010, I admit), the yellow jersey only donned the shoulders of the great. The best rider of the spring season for day one, the world champion for day two to eight, the posterboy of French cycling for day nine to eighteen, the apparent heir to Contador's throne for day nineteen and then the previous world champion and eventual winner for the final two stages*. Yellow in 2011 meant world-class cyclist.

 

 

Losers

1 Cancellara - 

Sure, he single-handedly dragged the Schlecklet's non-time trialling skinny asses across the line in a decent time for the TTT, but that was about it for the Bear from Bern. Without a prologue, all he had left was the time trial on stage 20 to continue his four year TdF running streak, but alas, no suck luck. Cancellara rode his time trial on damp roads while eventual winner T-Mart benefited from dry asphalt, but the change in weather conditions does not account for a 1 minute and 37 seconds. Maybe half of that is drops from heaven, the others is a Cancellara off-form.

2 QST

Part of it was bad luck the kind QST must be getting used to by now: Steegmans and Boonen crashed out, Chavanel hit the ground and never found his French Champs-shape again, Ciolek got ill, Pineau's uncle died on the second rest-day, while working in the Tour de France caravan. Engels was on De Weert-minding duties all Tour. Kevin did great, improving on his 18th place last year with a 13th spot in the general classification in 2011. His fantastic performance was somewhat overshadowed though, by De Gendt's and most of all Vanendert's mountain performances. This left Niki Terpstra and Dries Devenyns to cover all the attacks. Devenyns had great legs, Terpstra not so much. But 13 attacks before the right one got away and two QST guys alternating between jumping in breakaway-attempts, Devenyns admitted to being half-way toast by the time the right break got away.

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In the meanwhile, Lotto was getting all the good press in the world. Of course, it's easy to get good press when you have the PhilGil. But it didn't stop there, after the loss of their GC leader they stepped up and took the race by the scruff of the neck. Jelle broke free from his domestique cage, Greipel beat his nemesis, Phil kept on attacking; but more importantly, they were having fun. They made being a pro cyclist look fun. Phil's heart-felt happiness at seeing his roommate win, Lang trying to BMX his way into the bus, the team drinking champagne, Sieberg pretending to be Phil to fool the fans, drinking some more champagne, Greipel pretending to be Vanendert to fool the fans - the Gorilla does not fit into a skinny KoM-dude's jersey by the way - Phil driving the Lotto teambus... they were a joy to watch.
Which only made QST more invisible.

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3 Fluorescence -

It used to be fluorescence got you noticed. Nineties Europop dancers, spacy blacklight paint and funky shiny fish: fluorescing got you attention. Not this Tour though. Quite the opposite even: the muited kits reigned the peloton. Classic red-and-black, corporate blue-white-black, all white with... yeah ok, I'll let the argyle slide, understated dark green... they all did fine. Do you know who did not do fine? Liquigas: fluorescent green. Basso rode quietly to a mediocre-for-his-status eighth spot, apart from that they did nothing, nada, zilch. Lampre: fluorescent pink and blue on fluorescent yellow bikes: Cunego rode quietly to a ok-for-his-status seventh spot,  apart from that they did nothing, nada, zilch. The teams that are usually so extremely visible seemed to have either borrowed Harry's cloak or collectively stopped by a bar only to sneak back in to the race in the final 5k. Either way, they were nowhere to be seen. Yo Lampre, next year you might wanna try something in black.

 

4 Denis Menchov -

Man, imagine Denis sitting at home on his not-quite-comfortable but very straight-lined Russian couch, watching TiVo and Rolland do their thing. "вздох", he must've thought, "at least someone is doing my spot proud." He goes to the kitchen, rinses out his shot glasses, cleans some beets, makes a batch of borscht, goes back to the tv to see... the Saur guys rolling in with the grupetto. Every time. "Черт! I made room for them?!" Poor Denis. The team that got Geox's spot were thoroughly useless. Yeah, yeah, promotion of French cycling and all that. But France got plenty of promotion, and Saur didn't do any of it.

Then again, dude does wear fluorescent kit these days.

5 Me -

Know what I wrote about Jelle Vanendert before this whole thing started? Jelle's fate in this year's Tour de France is just that: invisibility. Quiet, dependable, bottle-fetching invisibility. Oh gs, you fool.

 

Greipel via nieuwsblad.be
Menchov picture taken by Petit Brun, used with permission
Basso picture taken by SLIxx, used with permission

*at the end of the day

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Heeeee!

Thanks so much, that was awesome. I especially like the insight into Menchov’s life!

by Sarah Connolly on Jul 26, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Great stuff!

Cryllic alphabet on keyboard- impressive!

by platypus on Jul 27, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Google translate & copy/paste

Not that impressive ;)

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 28, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Winners:
Australia
France
Belgium
Norway

Losers:
Italy
Holland
UK

by broerie on Jul 26, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

can we include USA in the winner category

Garmin-Cervelo – team winner
BMC – working for Evans

….and HTC Highroad is an American team….just saying

by steph- on Jul 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh...

…Garmin, explicitly and pointedly internationalist in approach. BMC, we’re giving awards for domestiques on another clearly internationalist team? And HTC is even less ‘American-identified’ than Garmin.

So I’d say no.

Russia, on the other hand, most definitely falls into the ‘loser’ camp. Katuysha went whole hog nationalist and looked awful.

by Ed K on Jul 28, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

Cause the two are sooooo similar :)

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 26, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

neutral?

5 wins & a jersey?

"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne

by civetta on Jul 26, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only do simple maths

Cav +1
Wiggo -1

Though Cav is probably more than +1, yes. It just seems so normal for him. Like that’s nothing out of the ordinary, cause he does the five stage win thing all the time :) I need to be reminded it’s not normal!

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 26, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 stages, green jersey, and several days in white for the UK.

Think they’re in the wrong column.

I'm still young--Andy Schleck

by majope on Jul 26, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

but I can’t change it anymore

by broerie on Jul 26, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thomas showing generally what a badass rider he is

the break in the pyrenees was awesome – can’t wait to see what he does in next year’s spring classics (assuming he’s not just doing the trackie thing)

by thebongolian on Jul 27, 2011 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah! Thomas is something… He so on my VDS team next year!

By the way welcome back thebongolian, we missed you and JJY in the Phil’s Game. And Sminer crushed the little competition he had, without you guys.

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the welcome back and sorry to have missed the game

also thanks for the fine vacansoleil cap i’ve been riding in it and trying to channel the spirit of johnny hoogerland

and we have to let sminer sometimes though, no? he’ll get testy otherwise…

by thebongolian on Jul 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sminer was unstoppable! Interesting, whose spirit he was channeling.

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feel free to add Denmark to the losers column.

It was bad all over the place with only Bak saving us a tiny little bit.

(I guess we should get some points for providing a body in the Sorensen against motorbike incident)

by Uphill on Jul 26, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Bak was all kinds of awesome

I was really hoping he’d win the last stage… until the rest of the team started chasing after him

by broerie on Jul 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sporza repeatedly praised Bak

for doing monstrous amounts of work each (flat) day, before the race came on air.

I think only Fugly sucked way more than he was supposed to.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAS was sub-par too

but in his defense he was used poorly by the team and perhaps didn’t have enough left in the tank by the time they got to the alps.

by Jens on Jul 26, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes

I gave him a pass because they sucked collectively. So at least they had team-spirit.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 26, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Germany could have been worse

Greipel and Tony M didn’t do so badly. And we do have Jens! who is always a winner.

"These are my principles and if you don't like them....well I have others." Groucho Marx

by Retancourt on Jul 26, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losers: Race Caravan

I have to think there will be fallout from French TV hitting Flecha and Hoogerland…and then there is also the moto which stole Nicki’s bike out from under him too.

by JustJoshinYa on Jul 26, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

They were only noticeable

for being invisible.

"These are my principles and if you don't like them....well I have others." Groucho Marx

by Retancourt on Jul 26, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

After Vino crashed

Astana was so invisible that they actually were overlooked for the invisibility contest.

by Logy on Jul 26, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kreuziger gave it a shot in a few of the mountain stages...once free to fly.

Now that I hear he had a broken wrist, it actually makes his ride a bit stronger to me, IMO…

by JustJoshinYa on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

His broken wrist makes his ride strong

but if his finishing in the group ahead of the broom wagon is Astana’s version of either a shot or flying they are going to have big problems next year.

by Logy on Jul 26, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off a tough Giro + starting out as working for Vino...I think it's relevant to consider that all he had left was trying attacks.

Frankly, I expected zero from astana outside of Vino…he crashes out…we get zero – so disappointment or just prophecy fulfilling?

by JustJoshinYa on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were all too visible

when Hivert crashed into first a bush & then that driveway…

"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne

by civetta on Jul 26, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even so their kit renders them invisible, I would only catch a glimpse and then immediately forget I saw them.

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 26, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that is the issue...boring kit.

Perhaps they needed to put a farting amoeba on it like Geox’ kit…or neon like ISD…

by JustJoshinYa on Jul 26, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

They ( Saur ) have best sounding names in the Peloton!

Jeandesboz! Engoulvent! Delaplace! And my favorite Yannick Talabardon!

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

dang you're right those are good

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Katusha was at least visible here and there.

Saw them trying to position Galimzyanov for the sprints a couple times, and they got in several breaks.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 26, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coppel did fairly well for a first Tour.

14th overall, 3rd in young riders. It’s just we were hoping for more… and also that the other French teams outshone Saur.

My second place behind Contador is worth a lot--Michele Scarponi

by tgartner on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rein Taaramae

got quite a bit of airtime and the white jersey for a bit. El Fares was right there on stage 17 and David Moncoutie got a bit of mention for being David Moncoutie.

by Logy on Jul 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said

at least on Versus, he got named quite a bit on the telecasts solely for being Moncoutie. If anyone had the inclination to go through all the coverage from all stages, he might very well get more random camera time than any other rider in the race. Not counting race leaders or riders in the break, the French camera crews seem to want us to know that he is riding anonymously somewhere in the pack at all times.

by Logy on Jul 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I think part of the reason the cameras were on him a lot was that he usually rides at the rear of the peloton, not within the peloton, which makes him easy to spot.

by Le Comte on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

& this tour he was quite often at the very back

"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne

by civetta on Jul 27, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taaramae!

He looked great—not that far ahead of Coppel in the end, but he was mixing it up with the big boys to a much greater extent, if I recall.

My second place behind Contador is worth a lot--Michele Scarponi

by tgartner on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second Tour

Rode 2009 for FdJ.

Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...

by TheFigurehead on Jul 27, 2011 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The flourescent Liquis got the Lanterne Rouge, I believe.

So, not a total loss for the boys in green

[Pigilito has a] lifetime stupid statement pass [on PdC] -- Yeehoo

by pigilito on Jul 26, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Fun

One explanation for a “loser”: Cancellara got sick a couple of days in. His own story for under performing at the TT was that he got stuck in a traffic jam down the mountain and didn’t arrive at the start in Grenoble until half an hour before the start.

Is “TiVo” widely used for Thomas Voeckler? I find it even more confusing than TV…

"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.

by tedvdw on Jul 26, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't know about the illness

I knew about the TT excuse though. Still. De Gendt didn’t warm-up either.

And on TiVo I don’t know. I use it widely :D

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always wondered where TiVo came from.

I know i came up a few tours back on 606, but i get the sense you were using it before bringing it there?

Chuck Norris isn't fit to wear Jens! cleats.

by Millsy_1989 on Jul 26, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Titi Voeckler and the recorder apparatus?

"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.

by tedvdw on Jul 26, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, TiTi Voeckler

Don’t know about the recorder apparatus.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

(recordING, I guess) It’s a digital video recorder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiVo Has become a verb in the US like ‘to tape’ was in the VCR days.

"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.

by tedvdw on Jul 27, 2011 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ted, channeling Steph on nicknames ;)

LOL, and yeah, I kept picturing the thingy on the television.

by Jen See on Jul 27, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hee :D

I confess, I’m not super duper a fan either, unless they’re really obvy.

by Jen See on Jul 28, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...
5 Me -

Know what I wrote about Jelle Vanendert before this whole thing started? Jelle’s fate in this year’s Tour de France is just that: invisibility. Quiet, dependable, bottle-fetching invisibility. Oh gs, you fool.

He made you WTF?

just pixels with personality

by fineco on Jul 26, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I certainly WTF'd. Guess GS owes you a old patched inner tube :)

(Also, i want to slip in I predicted Tommy D would finish 9th in my 5 First Timers post :D )

http://www.podiumcafe.com/2011/7/2/2255741/five-first-timers-hello-newbies

Chuck Norris isn't fit to wear Jens! cleats.

by Millsy_1989 on Jul 26, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive prognosticating right there.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 26, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, you're a genius!

I’ll get that patched inner tube to you within the next four days.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am in shock here. I may need that fainting couch.

Tony is never, ever to be placed in a category entitled ‘Losers’.

by Lou... on Jul 26, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Unpardonable.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm totally dumping him next year...

(okay, I will probably keep him…but sometimes a dog’s just gotta bark – WOOF!)

by JustJoshinYa on Jul 26, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Cance

but this was not a vintage Cance performance. So even “loser” Cancellara trumps 80% of the peloton. It’s just, normally he trumps 95% or more.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Cance achieved the most difficult task of the entire tour

He kept Fränk Schleck from crashing for the entire tour (he was Fränks “bodyguard” for the first weeks). If that is not a great achievment I don’t know what is. No wonder he was exhausted in the end :)

by Ilmatar on Jul 27, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

that

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 27, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no you didn't.

There are very few, I mean very few riders we don’t insult. Critique is one thing, but attach a word like “loser” to Spartacus. You need to…no…ah ah… don’t… no you better STFU!

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

sminer, some will never understand...

We must forgive them, for they know not what they do.

by Lou... on Jul 28, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo Gs! Especially for Denis Menshov part!

By the way Denis hates Borsht, his favorite food is the Pelmeni ( sort of Russian dumplings ), witch my wife is accidentally cooking tonight.

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 26, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

'accidentally cooking'

There’s a story there, I bet.

I'm still young--Andy Schleck

by majope on Jul 26, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He He! Accidentally = Coincidently in Russo - English

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

briljant!

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Jul 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Accidental cocking can only happen to me, when I am illegally using the kitchen.

Illegally! To use the kitchen legally I need written permission from all members of my family, in triples ! Yeah! I am that " good"

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am encouraged to do the dishes...in fact, so much so, that I am told that is where my talent lies.

I think that is the nice way of saying that when I am sent in to boil pasta, my family fears I might burn the water.

by JustJoshinYa on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a second, So you telling me that to make pasta I need to boil water first?

I learning something new every day! :)

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Knew I should've checked with you

before I got Denis cooking borscht :)

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

witch my wife

you should be nicer to her if she cooks for you!

by papyrus on Jul 27, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ps

any difference between pelmeni and (polish) pierogi?

by papyrus on Jul 27, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Day and night!

Pierogi are bigger and stuffed with cooked meat. Pelmeni are smaller and stuffed with row meat, ideally, if it is Siberian pemeni – bear meat is used sometimes, but pork will do nicely too.

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!

now a visit to the Russian shop…

by papyrus on Jul 29, 2011 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Menchov should have found a different team

Though I’m not sure who would have a good spot for him.

Radio Shack could use a legit GC threat, but Menchov is at least 5 years too young for that team. :D

MJB

by MJB on Jul 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Answer is right here!

Astana!

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

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by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until you mentioned Saur in the last paragragh,

I honestly didn’t know they were in the Tour. Nice choice race organizers.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 26, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Their kit was confusing.

Everytime I saw one, I wondered what they were sponsoring.

by DriftNasty on Jul 27, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their logo always makes me think laundry detergent

Which is wrong, I know

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

A european Tide.

When I see it, my mind empties.

by DriftNasty on Jul 27, 2011 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. Always has done. I have no clue what Saur actually is/does!

"First you have to be cool, after you are cool then you can be strong" -- Davide Appollonio

by Albertina on Jul 27, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to see their website, and it still isn't completely clear

A group of companies related to water, engineering, sanitation and a few other things

by MathieuG on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't get it either

Which isn’t very good marketing. Something environment, that’s all I got.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that's exactly it: waterworks

So you are clear :)

"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.

by tedvdw on Jul 27, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

That’s what I think, too. Which is probably not at all right.

They had hopes for Coppel, I guess? But he’s not all that experienced to carry a whole team.

by Jen See on Jul 27, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Argyle for the Winnars!

    Of course they could be considered neutral or losers even. They will be judged in the future by the results they achieved this year.

Radio Shack for the utterly and totally devastated category.

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know...

A week in yellow, American winning on 4th of July, Team classification. That is not loser territory.

Now RadioShack, that was like a Battalion decimated to 1 platoon.

by DriftNasty on Jul 27, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The loser territory comes next year, Thor probably gone, no TTT and they have only Farrar to repeat - maybe.

    Their results will be compared to this year’s, which would be hard to achieve even if they have Thor and a TTT.

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 27, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's see who they pick up in the offseason

before writing them off. not sure what GHH’s contract situation is, but if still around and healthy, he could bring some fireworks. and i think they’ll still be competitive for the TTT. they also always seem to put someone in a pretty decent GC position. maybe they could find someone to podium next year.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Jul 27, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not writing them off. This years team may have over achieved.

    It will be difficult to win 4 stages next year, but next year they may be judged by their 4 win performance. They could win less stages but have a better overall performance and still have to answer to critics who only count stage wins.

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 27, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

This year they broke the damn... major achievement.

but yeah, not sure if there’s much water behind the damn next year.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jul 27, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i understand

just saying the loser territory isn’t a given.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Jul 27, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but next year

Sep’ll be healthy again.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is widely understood that most pro tour teams

judge their season by their results in the Tour de Pologne. Currently Garmin is the defending champion and they did that without Thor. When you add to those Palmares the phenomenon that is Sep, 2012 should be nothing but awesome sauce.

by Logy on Jul 27, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like you

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 28, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will there be a cobbled stage?

    If Sep wins a stage and then the whole team gets kicked out you would call that a success for Garmin wouldn’t you?

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 28, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Yes I would :)
I do so hope they take that boy to Eneco.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 28, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, too bad

Well, good schedule for him, but I’m not going to Poland and the Vuelta.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 29, 2011 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another looser is Russian Arms Industrial complex!

They send entire Katusha team to test new antiradar, invisible covering for their warplanes.
Everything was working perfectly, but then Kolobnev happens! Blown experiment!

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

.

by holmovka on Jul 26, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Hehe

"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.

by tedvdw on Jul 27, 2011 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

But... Tony got 5th on the Champs!

Some saving grace, right?

My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia

by Douglas Ansel on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I took that as a sign of how desperate he was for a result of some kind

I mean, since when is Tony a sprinter?

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, he has a go on the Champs-Élysées most years

7th 2007, 13th 2008, 19th 2009… he’s been a familiar sight in the photos of the sprint finish for the last 5 years. (And if you scan the lists for his closest finishing team-mate you’ll usually find that it’s Stuey… what conclusions can we draw from that, I wonder? ;-)… )

by Lou... on Jul 27, 2011 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

A yearly Champs Cance-Stuey battle

what can be more wonderful than that?

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's a 'battle', somehow ;-)

I’d say ‘conspiracy’… and I’d like to see them try it the other way around – could be interesting…

by Lou... on Jul 27, 2011 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, in my head it was a bet

“I thinket I cud beat Stuey on the final day of Paris. He says no! Tomorrow we will see who is the most right!”

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd bet that he would have won at least once if HTC weren't so well organized on the front.

    If Vino can do it then it is entirely within the realm of possibilities for Spartacus. Maintaining high speeds on cobbles for a prolonged periods sounds like his modus operandi

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 27, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuey stole his planket and he wants it back.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Jul 28, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear gs, since I missed most of the Tour this year

Did any of my comedy wishlist come true? And if so, on which stages? If I’m going to catch up, I want to start here!

by Sarah Connolly on Jul 27, 2011 6:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Alas

1. No
2. Well, Andy’s attack seemed rather infeasibly crazy. And Thor attacked on the mountains again. And for a very short while, André Greipel went in the break on the Alpe d’Huez stage! You can imagine how long that lasted.
3. No
4. No
5. No

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jelle's victory, perhaps

I’d say that fits number 1. And Contador on Mur de Bretagne is almost a 4.

Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...

by TheFigurehead on Jul 27, 2011 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Greipel in a break on Alpe d'Huez??

That’s insane!

But alas, I was hoping for more…. well, there’s still the Vuelta…

by Sarah Connolly on Jul 27, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was hilarious

Well, to me at least. Maybe it was the power of the polka shirt…

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. That moment where the big favourites are so busy looking at each other, that they don’t notice the stage being stolen…

Yes. Jelle rides away while the others just mark each other

2. Unfeasibly crazy attacks

Yes. Contador on the telegraph. Really? 3 mountains and 60 miles is craaaazy

3. Millar Manoeuvres/Garmin train of doom

Yes. Thor got to get some of that pain too.

4. When a rider thinks he’s won…. but he hasn’t

Yes. I did like Contador’s salute on Stage 4. He was saving Cadel the effort.

5. A proper battle for the Lantern Rouge

Well. Andrey Amador Bakkazakova (CRc) Movistar Team had it in the bag until he got in a break and tanked it. Fabio Sabatini was a rather invisible loser.

by kiwi_dude on Jul 27, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Euskatel winners surely

A stage in the Pyrenees, a good placing for Sammy and the dots and a regular presence in the breaks. For a small team that hasn’t don much in the tour recently that’s very good

by thebongolian on Jul 27, 2011 7:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Bai :)

Their main goal was a stage win: tick! A stage win the Pyrenees, even better. They would have liked Sammy on the podium too, but getting caught behind that big crash, a woeful Euskie TTT and one bad day in the Alps put paid to that. But the dots are excellent compensation, even if he does look like he’s wearing a Victorian bathing costume!

"First you have to be cool, after you are cool then you can be strong" -- Davide Appollonio

by Albertina on Jul 27, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Winners column needs one more addition Laurens Ten Dam! The winner of the respect and admiration!

After I saw his pic, finishing stage with the bloody face and broken nose, my Respectometer’s needle went to damn Ten!

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

.

by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

"Laurens' a Damn Ten", this is a good 'un.

    He not only finished but he enjoyed the race too, as evidenced by his salute at the Dutch corner and a Heineken while finishing the ride up le Alpe.

There are so many aspects to the sport that you have to take into consideration. Cycling is not like math. You can't plan things exactly. - Alberto Contador 24/07/10

by flying dog on Jul 27, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think his middle name is jens.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Jul 27, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i heard a rumor Jens! actually has 7 kids

had one very early in his life that was taken from him and secretly removed from east germany because the authorities were afraid the country couldn’t handle the pain that would be dealt out by both Jens! and the son of Jens!.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Jul 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that it's six

but I may have lost count. Guy can’t afford to retire yet. And because I can’t resist getting some Jens! love in, he says he has to support the kids, He still lives in Germany so he’s paying hefty taxes but he says that’s fair enough as he wants to be sure that the schools his kids go to are properly funded and public services are maintained. If we can’t move to Cologne next year have to move to Berlin to live in the same city.

"These are my principles and if you don't like them....well I have others." Groucho Marx

by Retancourt on Jul 27, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

You missed out Garate! Crack in the shoulder. Changed his position on the bike to compensate for it, and ended up with a swollen groin too!

Another one on my Basque List Of Woe :(

"First you have to be cool, after you are cool then you can be strong" -- Davide Appollonio

by Albertina on Jul 27, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Swollen groin

Sounds like painface on the bike :/

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 27, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Borscht, ha!

That was a fun read :)

I also liked that the teams and riders who took the Yellow Jersey wanted it, and tried hard to keep it. I never really enjoyed the silly game of “we don’t want it too early.”

Thanks gs!

by Jen See on Jul 27, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

This is BOLD prediction!

"I love bike races warm up, warm down, cobbles mountains or flats."
perezbike

.

by holmovka on Jul 27, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not that far-fetched

Cancellara has been mumbling about focusing on the road race. Cance at 90% gets beaten by Martin at 100% I think.

by Jens on Jul 28, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

…T-Mart is at that point now.

by Ed K on Jul 28, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Menchov and Sastre are two of my favorites

I was gutted when Geox didn’t make the top 18, but mostly because it meant that those two would have to hope and pray for wildcards (and rely on their lesser members to scratch and claw) while a bevy of “former” dopers would have their pick of the Grand Tours. I expected a bit more out of Coppel given his Vuelta a Murcia ride, but wasn’t he a little less than 100% during the Grande Boucle? Still…..yeah, he got to stay home in favor of a team we hardly saw. I expected them to be in every breakaway, or close to it. I can really only remember one off the top of my head, though there was probably more than just the one.

by Aly Edge on Jul 28, 2011 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he - Coppel that is -

went down in the week one crashfest.

I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.

by tgsgirl on Jul 28, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a bew loser

All of cycling if it gives a License to Rock Racing.

by kiwi_dude on Jul 28, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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