Close To Flying, by Cadel Evans
Title: Close To Flying
Author: Cadel Evans (with Rob Arnold)
Publisher: Hardie Grant Books
Year: 2009
Pages: 304
Order: Hardie Grant
What it is: The officially approved biography of Cadel Evans.
Strengths: It's about Cadel Evans.
Weaknesses: It's a sycophantically bland hagiography.
If you want an idea of the type of story being peddled by Rob Arnold in Close To Flying, look at the 2008 Tour de France. Cadel Evans went in as the pre-race favourite, having finished second the year before. Alberto Contador, the defending champion, was absent, ASO having decided that he and his Astana team-mates were persona non grata. In the end, the race came down to a duel between Silence-Lotto and CSC-Saxo Bank. Where was that year's Tour won and lost?
Did Evans lose it on the penultimate stage, the ITT at Saint-Amand-Montrond, when he failed to put enough time into Carlos Sastre? Or did Evans lose it on the Alpe d'Huez when CSC tag-teamed him and Evans let Sastre ride away from him, fearing an even more lethal attack from Fränk Schleck? According to Rob Arnold, it was neither of these. Cadel Evans lost the 2008 Tour de France when the Euskaltel-Euskadi rider Gorka Verdugo - "his Basque name can be literally and somewhat ominously translated as 'Gorka, the executioner'" - took him out on stage nine, Toulouse to Bagnères-de-Bigorre, on the approach to the Col de Peyresourde:
"Cadel sustained injuries that would limit his capacity for the remainder of the race."
Pointing to an innocuous looking crash and saying that is where a Tour was lost, it's what some people like to do, as a way of saying their guy didn't lose the race, he had the chance to race it properly stolen away from him. But what Arnold is really doing by pointing to that incident so early in the race is saying this: "but Cadel battled on." Because Evans is a battler - his name itself, Cadel, is, we're told, Welsh for battle - and, lamentably, Close to Flying is one of those stories, the world against Cadel Evans:
"He had been attacked on all fronts; cheats and honest riders got the better of him during the course of the final fortnight. Some of the media needed a story and they created incidents - at some of his weakest and most stressful moments on Tour."
Those media incidents. 2008 was the year when Cuddles - the people's hero - had a bodyguard to protect him from the people. Lance Armstrong's former strong arm, Serge Borlée got to play Kevin Costner to Evans' Whitney Houston. Here's Evans explaining how Borlée came to be part of his entourage:
"I understand that [being the favourite for overall victory at the Tour] brings with it added pressure but I was ready, I was fit, healthy, had good support. But nothing is sure in life. There were a lot of people around me - in the team and elsewhere - who were just so sure I was going to win and I didn't like that at all. It made me uncomfortable. I was just doing my job and wanted as few distractions as possible. It's why they decided that I should have Serge Borlée along in 2008, to keep me protected not because of security issues but just because it's impossible to offer time to everyone who wants it during the Tour de France."
The bodyguard wasn't only protecting Evans from the standard media pundits. He also had to put up with a documentary crew making a film about Cuddles. Yell For Cadel. This throws up a worthwhile question: which is the real Cadel Evans? Is it the one who has a bodyguard and a documentary crew making a film about him, or is it the shy, retiring guy who just wants to race his bike? And which of them was it head-butted the Belgian camera crew that day?
Arnold dodges the bullet on that question. Of the head-butting - and other related incidents - we're told that "the combined times of all the YouTube moments adds up to less than five minutes" of Evans' life. We're told that Evans is rarely "anything but diplomatic, conducting himself in an exemplary manner." The man who head-butted that TV crew?
"This was not the real Cadel. It was an instance when the rider trying to win the Tour was under pressure."
You know what's really funny about this? I don't want Arnold soft-soaping things like the head-butt. I actually like the fact that Evans can be a prickly little shit. I like that Evans head-butted that TV crew that time. I like that Evans can speak his mind and that the script there isn't always pre-approved. For me, these things prove that Evans is human, that he's not simply some marketing man's creation, not another bike-riding automaton.
In terms of Evans speaking his mind, consider his comments on the Olympics, if for no other reason than that the Cold War's five-ringed circus is in the headlines at the moment. Cuddles has represented Australia three times at the Games now - Atlanta, Sydney and Beijing (for some reason he was among a number of absentees at Athens). You'll remember than, in 2008, when Evans was preparing for Beijing, he managed to get himself photographed wearing a 'Free Tibet' T-shirt under his jersey during Liège-Bastogne-Liège. This caused something of a minor rumpus. And resulted in Evans getting a yellow card from the AOC: buck up or fuck off, mate. So here's Evans offering a take on the Games, comparing them with the Tour de France:
"There are so many restrictions to what an athlete is or is not allowed to do at the Olympic Games. The Tour de France has its regulations but at least we are still treated like human beings when we race there; we are subjected to strict doping controls and there are other elements we must adhere to, but it's still possible to voice your concerns and not be afraid of the ramifications. At the Olympics, you're not even allowed to wear your own socks, You sign a contract that essentially puts a limit on what you're allowed to do as a person. I remember reading my contract with the AOC from the Sydney Olympics and it stipulated that athletes weren't allowed to comment on what we were there to compete in; you weren't allowed to talk about anything but your own event. [...] The Tour does have its flaws but sport is at its core. At the Olympics, the sports seem to be much further down the agenda. [...] As a person, when you go to the Olympics and you sign the Olympic contract, you go there and you're not allowed to talk about anything but your own sport. It's a little bit too much for me, and they're just trying to control things too much."
Compare and contrast that outspokenness to Evans on the subject of doping. A remarkable amount of Close To Flying is taken up with this subject. For that, you surely have to give Rob Arnold at least one gold star, no? I mean, he acknowledges the issue, doesn't try to sweep it under the carpet. Sadly though, I'm not sure I learned much more about Evans' take on doping than I already knew before I started the book.
Asked about the subject, Evans offers Arnold a bit of guff about cheaters existing in all walks of life, be it paying your train fair, abiding by the tax laws or getting approval to build a dodgy house. Pressed to explain his feelings on being beaten by dopers Evans turns the question, making it less about dopers and more him and his critics:
"At least the people who criticise me for not attacking them during a race or not winning may think about swallowing their words. Or at least they might realise that if I come second it doesn't mean that I'm not trying as hard as I can."
What the hell is stopping Evans from simply criticising dopers? And it's not like what he's saying in Close To Flying is inconsistent with his answers to similar questions in other contexts. Here he is after the World Championship road race victory in 2009, when asked if his victory represented a win for clean cycling:
"Well, it's not my responsibility to comment on these things. I'm happy that I was top today. I've been criticised. You can never win. But today I've got gold."
Richard Moore recently pointed to Evans answer to a similar question during the Tour this year, after Evans' victory was assured. This time Evans was asked if his victory was a sign that the sport was getting cleaner. His answer was - again - evasive:
"I don't think I'm in the best position to comment on that, sorry."
These answers - all three of them - bother me. Evans is willing to speak out in favour of a free Tibet. He's willing to speak out against the organisers of the Olympic Games. Why is he unable to comment on something as simple as doping?
Let's turn that question: why is it important that Evans actually answer these questions? Well, let's take a trip back to the 2006 Tour de France. Floyd Landis is asked the impact of Operacion Puerto on the race:
"I don't know anything about that ... Look, since you won't stop asking all these questions, it was an unfortunate situation for all of us, and none of us got any satisfaction from the fact that they were not here."
Hardly the answer we wanted to hear.
When Carlos Sastre won in 2008, he faced similar questioning, but at least managed to acknowledge the pachyderm in the pantry, accepting that Manolo Saíz had played a rôle in his career:
"Since I left ONCE we don't speak together. We've taken different paths, we have two different points of view."
Today, if you win a race like the Tour or the Worlds, you can expect to be asked about doping. How you answer the question is important. Dodge it and you look dodgy. So why would anyone dodge it? Why does Evans consistently dodge it?
This, I guess, is the real problem I have with Cuddles. Up to now, the only real opinion I have had of Evans is that I had no real opinion of him. Yes, I liked him for his spikiness, and - up until he won at Mendrisio - I liked him for being one of the sport's nearly men. But there's been so much shit swirling around the man - so many unanswered questions - that I simply don't know what to really think about him. I want to believe in him, but he's not making it easy. And - sadly - reading Close To Flying has done nothing to help me clarify where I really stand on Evans.
So why do I have my doubts about Evans? Well, he has - to say the least - lived in interesting times. And his life has certainly been interesting. Take his first Giro d'Italia, when he was a member of the Mapei squad when Stefano Garzelli was in the maglia rosa and tested positive for probenecid. Now there's an interesting story, waiting to be told. And after having read Close To Flying, it's a story still waiting to be told.
Or what of his early years, at the Australian Institute of Sport? There he was under the tutelage of Heiko Salzwedel. Salzwedel was a former DDR coach, lured to Australia after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Anybody connected with the former DDR is considered toxic. It may be unfair to individuals, but the depth and breadth of the East German doping system mean that that's the way it is. So I was hoping that Close To Flying might help to detox Salzwedel for me. Instead, it leaves even more questions. Arnold alludes to a story behind Salzwedel's departure from the AIS, at the end of 1997, but chooses not to tell it. All he offers is this tantalising comment:
"[Salzwedel's] impact in the sport in Australia should never be underestimated. He, too, has his critics and the politics at the time of his departure were scandalous at worst, unnecessary at best."
In more recent years, Salzwedel seems to have become one of the good guys. He speaks out against doping. Better still, he goes further than most do on the subject and is hard on 'soft' doping. Take 2003, when WADA took caffeine and pseudoephedrine off the old IOC banned list. Salzwedel criticised the new anti-doping watchdog:
"WADA's position on supplements is basically crap. In 2000 it said that doping was 'everything which enhances performance' and recommended that athletes did not take nutritional supplements at all. But now it has recommended to legalise the use of substances which have been scientifically proven to enhance performance - I have examples from my time with the Australian Institute of Sport, as head cycling coach - which is against their own rules."
The toxicity of Salzwedel's DDR past has been decontaminated somewhat by his time with UK Sport and British Cycling, both in the aftermath of his departure from the AIS and again post-Beijing. In between stints at British Cycling he worked with the Danish track squad. Now he's working with the Russians. But there's a big but in there: in between his stints with British Cycling Salzwedel was involved with T-Mobile, where he again crossed paths with Cadel Evans, as well as a young Mark Cavendish.
If you want to know about Evans' Telekom/T-Mobile years, don't waste your time reading Close To Flying. Arnold skips over them as fast as he can. Sprints past time. Given what was going on in the team in those years, you do feel that Arnold has made the wrong choice in ignoring this part of Evans' story.
If Salzwedel's DDR past makes him toxic, then what can be said of John Lelangue and Andy Rhis? BMC may be a new team, but they will never exorcise the ghost of Phonak. Especially not when they have to keep suspending riders like Alessandro Ballan and Mauro Santambrogio whenever the Mantova investigation moves into a new phase. Nor when Sven the soigneur gets busted with a cache of EPO in his possession.
Or what of Lotto itself? Arnold himself notes that "one dirty rider can spoil the image of an entire team." This he says in the context of Thomas Dekker and Bernhard Kohl, both busted for doping infractions that pre-dated their arrival at Lotto. But what of riders busted for doping infractions during their time with Lotto?
What of Björn Leukemans? He was busted in September 2007, an OOC test suggesting the use of testosterone. First he claimed that he had a naturally high t-level. Then he claimed he'd been having sex before the testers arrived for him. When the dust had settled on the whole thing it was decided that the Lotto doctor was at fault for prescribing a proscribed product. What does Arnold have to say of this case? What's Evans' take on it? Keep whistling past the graveyard folks. It's yet another untold story in Close To Flying.
Or what of Volodymyr Bileka, another Lotto team-mate who was a victim of an OOC test, one that this time revealed the use of EPO? Dumb question. One rider can spoil the image of an entire team and Arnold's not the type to spoil the image of his spotless hero by talking about things like this.
Let's take someone else from Evans' past: Michele Ferrari. Is Evans, or has he ever been, a client of Ferrari? In 2007, it was alleged in the German that Evans had consulted Ferrari for training plans. It is claimed that Evans confirmed this fact to journalists, but I've yet to see him quoted doing this. Ferrari, however, has recently written about meeting Evans:
"In the summer of 2000, I got a phone call from Tony Rominger: 'There is this MTB vice-world champion, Cadel Evans, who would like to pass onto road racing. Since he's earning already quite well from his MTB activity, I'd like to know whether he has the skills to consider dedicating to road cycling full time and risk such a jump.' It is always difficult and chancy to answer similar questions, but I eventually agreed on testing him on the road in St Moritz."
While a cynic and a sceptic like me might have questions about Evans that he'd like answered, Rob Arnold is totally sure of his position. He is totally sure of Evans:
"His blood was pure. His intentions were good. And his approach was honest."
The reason Arnold believes this? That hoary old excuse: much tested, never failed, with a twist of a genetic inheritance that needs no doping to improve Evans' God-given gifts. We're told that Evans's VO2 max was off the scale when tested by the Australian Institute of Sport. We're told that Evans has a H-count in the low-to-mid forties. We're told that Evans is one of the good guys. What's not to be believed? What's stopping me from just getting down off the fence and embracing the hero Arnold is selling in Close To Flying?
One reason I simply don't buy the version of the story being flogged by Arnold is this: reading Close To Flying you'd almost believe that everything was hunky-dory for Evans during his five years at Whatever-Lotto, that they were the perfect team for this perfect hero. But no sooner had the book been published - actually, just a few weeks before the book was published - Evans suddenly split from Lotto, buying out the last year of his contract so that he could join BMC.
Fine, you may say, these things happen and Rob Arnold can hardly be expected to have had a crystal ball. No, he can't. And nor is it Arnold's fault if Evans failed to fill him in on a move that - according to Evans himself - was months in the making. But surely Arnold can be expected to have the balls to acknowledge the difficulties in the relationship between Evans and his team, can't he?
These difficulties had been increasingly evident in the run-up to Evans' midnight flit from Lotto. After Evans' dismissal performance at the 2009 Tour, Lotto sponsor Marc Coucke had been critical of his antipodean star, suggesting that the team might be better off putting their support behind Jurgen Van den Broeck.
Evans himself had, for several years, made clear that he had doubts about Lotto's commitment to him, especially in the years when they were attempting to double yellow and green, with Evans their GC rider and Robbie McEwen going for the points classification. Take these comments, from the back-end of 2008, about the difficulties he was encountering in strengthening the Lotto set-up:
"At the same time they signed a lot of Belgian riders, which is good and well for Lotto, and developing riders for the classics [but] that is not going to help me win the Tour. I am a bit disappointed that they fill places with riders who can't help me win the Tour, but then we come to ride it [and it's], 'Hang on, I don't have a strong team. What can we do?' The places are full. My hands are a little bit tied. That is where I have lost a bit of respect towards my team management."
The only real hint of friction between rider and team that Arnold offers though is Evans saying he wasn't riding the Vuelta only for his team to announce the very next day that he was. That's it. Here's Arnold describing the team's backing for Evans in 2008:
"The management of Silence-Lotto realised that the rider who claimed second place last year deserved all the backing they could conjure. No longer could they divide their cast between helping Robbie McEwen win stages and Evans in his quest for a high GC placing. This year it was all for Cadel."
Evans himself contributes this:
"The team do everything they can and that's all I ask of them."
Clearly that wasn't the case. But it was the story Arnold preferred to sell. And - I guess - that's the real problem with Close To Flying: it's just another sales pitch, and Evans is just another modern hero needing to be sold. Single-parent up-bringing? Check. Pet dog? Check. Life-threatening illness? Check. This is the Cadel Evans depicted in Close To Flying. The modern hero. The man who has, almost single-handedly, rescued Australian cycling:
"Cadel Evans is aware that his actions have contributed to people enjoying cycling, perhaps even for the first time, because of what he's doing. He races. People watch, and they care."
And people like Rob Arnold write sycophantic drivel like Close To Flying about him.
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You'll find an interview with Rob Arnold (part 1 | part 2) on the Cafe Bookshelf.
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How can I put this politely?
You really aren’t the intended audience for some of these books, are you? ;-)
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
Def not for this one, haven’t had a lobotomy. Yet. :)
Thing is, I wonder who is the intended audence: it strikes me that the less you know about the sport the more you’re going to like a book like this.
by fmk on Aug 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
hehe
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Aug 2, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You totally nailed it.
As I was reading this I was trying to imagine putting myself through the exercise of reading the book and I just couldn’t do it. I just don’t have the frustration threshold.
Thanks for revisiting this book
(there was a previous review at PdC here, when it first came out – but by the time the book was available in Canada last year it was way too late to comment on the original review).
I am and have always been (since I started really following cycling in 2005) an Evans fan. Yet, I found this book to be perhaps the most tiresome one I had ever read, because of its tendency to flit about from one topic to the next with no obvious attempt at any kind of organization or thematic structure. I really didn’t analyze it the way you have, regarding sycophancy or topics that were avoided that should have been addressed (eg. doping) – I was simply trying to get through the book as quickly as I could to find previously unknown-to-me facts about Cadel, without going crazy in the process due to frustration over the writing style/lack of coherence/whatever you want to call it. If there was an “intended audience”, as an Evans fan I would imagine I would be part of that audience, and I didn’t particularly enjoy this book :-(
(and don’t give me any “but it’s just a sports book” excuses – as a Canadian I’ve read enough hockey books to know that “sports book” does not always equate to “poorly written”).
I don’t do the ’it’s only a sports book’ thing. There’s good books, there’s bad books, and this is most def a bad book. Glad to see even a Cuddles fan thinks so. (BTW is not that I’m not a Cuddles fan, this isn’t a fanboy/hater thing – I’m stuck on the fence.)
I wonder how much the connection wth SBS is the real prob. They have the Tour in Oz, they have some role in the publishing of the book. How would Brits feel about, say, an ITV-published Wiggo biog? Or American fans about a Versus-published Levi book? It just feels like the book is part of a marketing exercise, for Cuddles and for cycling in Oz.
by fmk on Aug 2, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That other review
Oh dear. Me and slowK just aren’t on the same page, are we?
very occasionally the odd sentence is a bit drippy
Oh how I was tempted to post some examples. Partic the bit where he turns the wife into a saint. A two vomit bag chapter that one.
by fmk on Aug 2, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're both right
There were cringeworthy bits in the book for me, and with reflection I was too generous in my review. Arnold’s writing style is similar to how he writes in Ride Cycling Review. I certainly haven’t felt like reading it again, but did enjoy reading it once.
I suppose I did get some enjoyment
ie. reading more about Cadel, but like you, haven’t felt like reading it again ;-)
"Pointing to an innocuous looking crash and saying that is where a Tour was lost..."
I have to say though, that innocuous-looking crashes can cause serious problems, and I think Evans’ crash in 2008 was one of those instances – the book mentions the “shattered helmet he handed to the journalists through the bus window”, and that “what was certain was that the rider’s head had made impact with the road”. As I recall, at the time too there was mention of Evans being confused immediately after the crash and for a while afterwards – though not any alarming video footage such as of Chris Horner at the finish this Tour not knowing where he was. All that points to a concussion – even if it was a minor one, still would have affected his riding for the remainder of that Tour.
Having said that (ie. that I do believe that that crash was a big part of why Evans didn’t/couldn’t win the Tour in 2008) – you’re right in that they overplayed the “but he fought on” /heroic aspect of it.
Hmm, don't like being spoon-fed tasteless gruel-
have I found another hater of “Reality” TV?
Recognize!
BTW, thanks so so much for your mazing reviews, interviews, etc.
Been a wonderful resource to plan my reading.
I would have hated to read a book like this, even being a huge fan of Cadel's now.
I might not take your word for it that Rob Arnold is a sychophant, but drivel certainly seems to abound in this book like so many books about athlete’s, so I guess it makes one wonder about their motivation.
I don’t know about all this analysis of Cadel’s answers to certain questions about doping. As if to say a rider given the chance should say: “Drugs are bad, and people who do drugs are bad”, otherwise let’s hold suspicion over their head and sit on the fence about our feelings on them as a rider. I’m glad that you can like him for headbutting and otherwise showing he’s human, I guess that’s much more generous than many.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
The dodging the doping Q is part of a general set of problems. Ferrari is prob the biggest part. Add in then the dodging the Q and you get suspicion, the same way you did wth Landis.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I totally get how you get to suspicion
I’m suspicious of everyone. I don’t worry about being a fan of a rider and then getting burned by them, it’s really not that much of an emotional investment for me. When drug testing was an even bigger joke, and riders could take EPO without any worry of getting caught, it’s hard for me to believe anyone was clean and still competitive.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
I haven't read this book
I suppose I could borrow a copy, but I know I’m not the intended audience. Nor are you, fmk, so much is clear.
This book sounds as if it’s really directed at the Australian sports-following public, the people who think Liggett and Sherwen provide terrific expert commentary and who know their boy just became world champion and want to find out about him.
That said, what you’ve described serves as a mix of what I have seen of Rob Arnold and Cadel Evans’ points of views.
On the ‘us vs. them’ thing: I noticed Phil Anderson saying shortly after Evans won that he hoped Evans would now realise that it wasn’t a case of everybody being against him. (I hope I haven’t misquoted him; I can’t find a link at the moment). I think that squares with Evans’ views as expressed. He makes a lot about the fact that few people believed in him. I think he has felt under siege at times, and at no time more than the 2008 Tour. That maybe isn’t healthy as a general psychological approach, but it often drives a rider to heights hitherto unscaled. In Evans’ case, the redemption at Medrisio seems to have cleared him for greater success, and part of that might have been the public favour it won him. I don’t know, but it would be an interesting psychological study.
The doping thing is more opaque, as ever. Evans was coached by Sassi (not, so far as I have ever heard, Ferrari, whatever test occurred in 2000). Sassi was notorious for being ‘clean’, but then he took on Ricco towards the end (we all make mistakes, I guess). Evans was also one of the only three Telekom riders who didn’t suffer from ‘food poisoning’ in the 2004 Vuelta (Zabel and Kocecny the others) and couldn’t make the Tour team for some inexplicable reason. Those things stand in his favour, surely. The flipside you have mentioned.
He certainly doesn’t go out of his way to criticise dopers. *Lotto said they would sue Vinokourov for the lost oublicity from the Stage 13 TT win where Vino was busted for homologous blood transfusion, but I don’t recall him being outspoken himself. The reasons for not being outspoken are legion, of course, and relate mainly to speaking to a specific cycling audience (in particular, other riders).
His reluctance to speak more forcefully is reflective of Arnold’s own approach, it seems to me. I stopped reading Ride a few years ago—it seemed to me like it was pretending that doping was not a problem, and it glided merrily past the issue. If it has changed, I haven’t read it to find out. But to a novice Australian sports fan—the target of this book—who thinks cycling means doping, you have to address the issue in some detail. So we have a situation where Evans doesn’t speak out so as not to offend the specialist cycling audience (or for other reasons, who knows?) and yet it has to be covered in the book because the audience is a different one.
The failure to spit in the soup about *Lotto is similar. Evans is, in the way he praises BMC, implicitly very critical of *Lotto, and to an outsider the atmosphere in 2009 seemed poisonous. He was still at the team when the book was written, though, and that probably says it all. It is unsurprising that you don’t criticise your team, and he no doubt would have been roundly criticised himself had he done so, however interesting it would have made the book.
As for the hagiography style: after a few Armstrong books, I guess we know what to expect. Maybe you need to be further away from your subject to maintain your credibility, and that is why I am sceptical about most sports biographies. One point, though, in response to a comment you’ve made: Arnold wouldn’t be the first to be charmed by Evans’ wife, Chiara. She seems genuinely to be a force for good as far as Evans is concerned, and I have never seen anything but positive comment about her.
Phil Anderson has criticised Cuddles? I wondered why Arnold seemed to be air-brushing him from history.
Agree that not making the Tour team for Telekom stands in his favour. My point is more the taint just being at Telekom brings and the fact that Arnold skips those two years (they’re covered by his wfe withering on and on about something, I forget what, my brain froze). (BTW re beng charmed by the wife, I’ll dig out the passage I was gong to use later – it’s more than charming.)
On Arnold – bwfore this, I wasn’t familiar with him. Have never seen Ride and didn’t know he was the dudge did the Tour’s live ticker. I asked for some opinions of him on Twtter and got some v entertainng prvate answers. Bascally confrmed a view of him I formed rading the book. Suffce to say, I won’t be rushing to read thngs whith his by-line on them.
In terms of hagiography / objectivity. This was the point I put to Ricard Moore. I think it is possible to be a fan and still be objectve, it just requires an ability to see the subject as not wholly perfect. Maybe the Q I should put to authors is this: who do you prefer, Batman or Superman? Supe fans would do hagiography, I’m pretty sure. Batty fans I think would admit flaws in their heroes.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Anderson was quite complimentary of Evans this year
And he generally keeps his public opinions on the respectful side, so I wouldn’t assume it’s some feud. Evans has said that he didn’t follow cycling when Anderson was at the top; he first noticed Indurain. That makes sense to me.
Moreover, I wouldn’t be so dismissive of Arnold’s work. Ride is (or was, when I read it) generally a very professional-looking, well-written magazine, albeit with a bias in dealing with races where Australians were prominent. Many of the articles were great. I just thought it didn’t face up to the serious questions that cycling posed a few years ago. It didn’t do any of the posing, either. That’s a personal view, naturally. I have no idea about Arnold as a person, either, and frankly it’s not a relevant consideration. My point was merely that a soul-searching examination of the doping issue was not a theme of the work of his I had read.
Your Batman/Superman dichotomy probably has merit, but be careful: you risk an author telling you to get your hand off it. It does risk sounding like the HR department question in a job interview about which tree you are, or what animal represents you best.
I think this is the best summary
of a book I haven’t read
It’s a sycophantically bland hagiography.
But yeah, I’d hazard to guess that it was written with the audience that comes to SBS each year just for the Tour. Make no mistake, Evans has been great for cycling’s profile in Australia and with that SBS have been quick to try and cash in. Hell, they deserve it after covering the race for 15 years when there’s been no interest.
But I’d be comfortable in accepting that a book for RTCF* it is not.
On a tangent, I have to confess that I don’t really understand your fixation on who does or doesn’t answer certain questions about doping and what that may or may not mean about them. It’s possible that it’s a cultural/mindset thing but I don’t find some of Evans’ answers to be “evasive” like you do.
For example:
I don’t think I’m in the best position to comment on that, sorry.
To me that sounded like a guy being careful not to make sweeping statements about how clean races are or are not. Not necessarily because he’s hiding something, but because he’s aware that every time somebody starts to trumpet that racing is clean, some fucker somewhere gets busted doping. And probably also because as he sees it, his job is to ride his bike not monitor the honesty of the peloton.
*Real True Cycling Fans
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
The fixation on answering the question. Why does Cuddles keep dodging the question? He’s asked about how he feels after Vino, I think, is turfed off Tour and he moves up a place. Cuddles’ answer? He tells a story about how Chris Horner feels. Not how he feels. Funny that. The not commenting answer … well he is actually in a positon to answer, if he’s clean (and hope he s clean), all he has to say is “well I’m clean, it means what it means.” That is not a diffic answer to give. But clearly is too diffic for Cuddles. Why?
And probably also because as he sees it, his job is to ride his bike not monitor the honesty of the peloton.
Bullshit. You have a job. Someone else on the job is robbing the company blind. Is it really not your job to report this fact once you know it? Or do you sit back and go down with the company?
But that's a different question again
Bullshit. You have a job. Someone else on the job is robbing the company blind. Is it really not your job to report this fact once you know it? Or do you sit back and go down with the company?
If someone on the company is robbing the company blind then yes, I confront them, I tell my management team about it and if I need to, I guess I take it all the way to the shareholders meeting or whatever.
But if a reporter asks me about it, I’m going with “I’m not in the best position to talk about that, sorry.” Because it’s my fucking CEO’s job to answer questions like that. It’s his job and the CFO’s job and whoever else’s job to be accountable to the world for what happens in the business. Not mine.
In cycling I’d say that responsibility lies pretty squarely with the UCI. It’s their job to be accountable for how fucked up the sport is or is not. And equally they’re the ones with the data (allegedly) that allows them to make the sweeping statements.
You seem to want people to account for things they’re not asked about. Cadel wasn’t asked if he was clean, he was asked if racing is clean. You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. If he’d answered the “do you think racing is clean” question with “Well I’m clean…” somebody would’ve started the “He’s protesting too much” line of argument.
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
by omnevelnihil on Aug 3, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Excellent response...and while someone still wants to ride, pretty much the only one possible.
And whilst I won’t read a hagiography, I’m not interested in reading a finger pointing exercise either.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I’m askng questions, not pointing fingers. And – contrary to what some parts of the media claim – a lot of other people ask similar questions about Evans. We would like a hero we can believe in. And we we like a reason to believe in that hero.
Wouldn't that just make it vomitous? I think Cadel rode this last Tour heroically, but I don't think he's a hero.
And I realise many suspect he’s doping, but so what? I also think he isn’t strong enough to rise above the keepers of omerta who would likely make things unpleasant for him, and I think no less of him for that.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
somebody would’ve started the "He’s protesting too much" line of argument.
With Cuddles? Hardly.
The reason riders have a responsibility is they are as much a part of the problem as the UCI. They are the sport’s spokesmen. And if Cuddles didn’t see himself in that role, why would he publish a book like this?
Don't you think he wanted to catalogue his life in his sport? Why on earth would a working cyclist start pointing fingers?
And if Cuddles didn’t see himself in that role, why would he publish a book like this?
You might want them to fmk, but the type of autobiography you want is best written after one finishes a career in cycling. You may see it as gutless, I see it as necessary, given the general ill-feeling towards whistleblowers in any profession.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You’re forgetting something important here Seahorse. Most of the second half of the book is taken up with doping. With pointing the finger at others. With showing how dopers have cheated Cuddles. But what’s absent in Evans’ voice in this. Though, in fairness, Arnold’s words are copywritten to Evans, legally speaking.
Fair point...and given your excellent review, I certainly won't be reading this.
I rarely read biographies or autobiographies of anyone under 50. I’m hoping one day the ‘men in black’ speak up, because it would be fascinating. But I’m expecting i may have dementia by the time it happens.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well...
why would he publish a book like this?
I don’t know about Cuddles, but I’d totally do it for the money.
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
Also because you kind of have to.
Well you don’t have to, obviously… but if you’re a moderately successful sportsperson it’ll be on your agent’s ticklist & it probably takes a hell of an effort to resist (I’m not even sure how much money he would have made from this). So you can either take a Millar-like attitude & take pretty much full control of the process, or be like Cav & ensure that the book at least reflects something of “you” even if you have little to do with the actual writing, or you can just say, yep, fine, whatever & go back to reading Tin Tin.
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
This is exactly right re: the corporate line...
…re the ‘are athletes supposed to be spokespeople in a different sense than employees’ question, that’s harder.
Part of me also wonders whether his response is a semi-honest variation of ‘I don’t fucking know!’ Clearly one thing that the increased enforcement has done is quieted the practice down a lot. Whatever’s being done is almost surely very hush hush now.
All that said, *Lotto and then BMC (but mostly *Lotto). Old line teams. Pretty sure that the ethos he grew up in was ‘you don’t shit where you live.’ Is that Omerta or more akin to the corporate situation, I dunno. But I can see simply not feeling as if talking about this is the done thing.
Well, he wasn't really a corporate man at *Lotto, was he?
You can’t say that about BMC, mind.
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
He was quite outspoken, publicly, at Lotto, wasn’t he, about the manner in which the team was (or wasn’t) supporting him.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes, I'm too tired to be commenting on anything...
…I knew that!
(Sorry, midst of huge push to finish a piece of writing before the summer gets away from me and clearly I should sleep now)
Yes, very
He trash-talked his team after the 2008 Alpe stage iirc. Johan Vansummeren – yes, the cobbles dude – had made it over the Galibier and the Croix de Ferre to work on the flat and the first few uphill bits; Mario Aerts helped on the first bit of Alpe D’Huez too. Both were clearly busting their gut. The only other GC man who had helpers was Carlos Sastre – the Schleck brothers were up there. Everyone else was going solo. Still, Evans felt the need to say how bad his team was, how he wished for more help. That was pretty much the point at which Aerts said “Well, fuck you then.”
I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.
Always good to be reminded that there was a point before Cadel 2.0 when dude...
…really could be kind of an asshole.
Much as I like him now, and I really do.
This!
Part of me also wonders whether his response is a semi-honest variation of ‘I don’t fucking know!’
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
Depends on how much you like to keep your job
and how long you think you may be able to ride it out.
"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.
So, on the bike, who do you think he’s scared of? The Schlecks? Nah, he could take both of them, one hand tied behind his back. :)
Must be Bert and the Spanish Armada. Arnold does do the Stolen Dauphiné about the way Bert and Valverde (right V?) did him over at the Dauphiné in ’09.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Evans on other riders:
Evans on…
Contador: I think, like everyone, there is a bit of a shadow over his winning and his reputation….but ‘til now, no solid proof has come out. So I’ll leave him innocent until proven guilty.
Rasmussen: It’s been a little strange watching his progression. It’s just observations I have. What can you say? In Rasmussen’s case, he had one or two good days a year, and last year he nearly put 30 (sic) guys out of the time limit. And I heard he had been suffering in the grupetto himself in the Giro d’Italia. It’s strange. I really don’t know the truth behind it all.Just because someone has a good performance you should never accuse them of cheating because it could be the result of hard work and good training. But I see what I see. I’ve been beaten by cheats before and I’ll be beaten by them again, I’m sure of that. But I’m not worried about it. Unfortunately there’s no prize for the first clean rider.
Valverde (my personal favorite): Evans on Twitter: My conclusion of Vuelta can be found in I’ll Stick Around by the Foo Fighters — careful listening required! (Your guess who ‘you’ is) [song contains the line I still refuse all the methods you’ve abused.]
I'm still young--Andy Schleck
Ha!
The Valverde line is great.
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
Thanks fmk. Saved me some time.
I almost asked for this book for Christmas, read the jacket and decided I might try the library…Now you have saved me several precious hours.
I am a big Evans fan – but of his cycling, not his life. He is certainly a prickly and interesting character and it such a shame that an interesting book wasn’t written. I guess it will have to be an unauthorised biography and I am willing to bet there are now several in the works.
Re the doping question thing. I share your puzzlement about his odd deflective answers, and having spent a fair while thinking on it propose a couple of possibilities:
1. Its related to his world view. Cadel seems to take the Tibetan thing pretty seriously and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he genuinely thinks a truly better approach is mindful non-involvement and let karma take its course. He is also a very private person, he likes his privacy and doesn’t want to attack other peoples.
2. The people who deal drugs are not to be f**ed with and he is smart enough to know this. Very, very big money and reputations involved. I suggest that the metaphor above is wrong: This is not like knowing a fellow employee is robbing the company blind. Its like having some information about some aspects of mafia operations and deciding you would rather keep living and working and leave it to the authorities to solve that problem.
3. He has been in the peleton long enough to see riders careers destroyed by making even pretty mild acknowledgements of the situation. The debacle for Simeoni, Landis, Hamilton et al (and now maybe even Levi) is enough to make a realist pause. Sassi talked about his involvement with blood doping when it was still legal but I don’t think (correct me if I’m wrong) that he talked much about others who were involved in that program who later took a different path (ie Ferrari). It is common knowledge that Evans has been much influenced by Sassi, talking of him as a father figure. I suspect he decided many years ago to look after his own backyard and leave things be and sees no reason to change that approach. (That is also a not uncommon philosophy for life in general in Australia.)
4. It is always possible that at some point in his early junior or MTB career he flirted with doping and now can’t cope with the difficulties (and consequences) of navigating the ‘yes, but I didn’t inhale and I’ve been clean for 15 years’ conversation. But at the same time is too honest to be hypocritical about making claims which may later have to be acknowledged as lies.
5. He may well have always been clean, but clearly the people around him haven’t always been. So making a fuss about being clean causes further pressure to talk about others around him; many of whom have made it abundantly clear they don’t like to talk about history.
As a rider, it must be a terrifically tough environment to navigate, and after all, these guys are paid the big bucks for riding, not for being master Machiavellians. My 2c.
Sorry, not trying to just shoot you down, but my take on yr suggestions
1) Not a flyer, given content of book – he points the finger at others, plays up how he’s been cheated by cheats;
2) Doesn’t work for me. One name: Phil Gil. It is possible to be better than anoydyne.
3) Landis/Hamilton were busted before they talked. Simeoni was unfortunate in who his enemny was. Many others can – and do – answer the question without fear. Look at Cav.
4) That vers of the story I have, obviously heard. But then, you hear that about most people at some stage, so you don’t really rate it. But yes, it could be true and the fear of hypocrisy – and someone proving hypocrsy – would certainly be the most likely reason for dodging the question, one way or another.
5) Possible, he is of that era, and it’s certainly easier for the next gen to talk more openly.
these guys are paid the big bucks for riding, not for being master Machiavellians
That, alas, you do sometimes wonder, no? Sponsors being the problem they are, sometimes …
I want to stress this again though: I’m not tryng to put Cuddles on trial here. I am on the fence about him – though I admit liking his spikey personality. But I am aware of the cloud over him, and had hoped a book like Close To Flying would help dispel some of that cloud. It hasn’t. And that … I don’t know if it annoys me more than it upsets me.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure there are other possibilities
Its something we just can’t know, maybe in about 20 years, when lots of careers riding and DSing are over.
I think you would have to agree though, that one thing he has definitely not shown a native flair for is PR. So I don’t think we can accuse him of carefully crafted answers. I think the whole slope of his career, life and improvised answers leans to the currently, and for many years, clean. Most of the pressure in sponsorship is now the other way, Andy Rhis clearly doesn’t want another business image trashed. (Though the trend to national teams my revive this monster, if commercial interests are not at stake.)
Andy Rhis clearly doesn’t want another business image trashed
Not doing a v gd job, is he? :)
Trend to national teams? You mean Sky and GreenEdge and Katusha and Astana? (Did I miss anyone?) Yes, they are national. But there is also the commercial imperative at play with them, no?
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it a commercial imperative that would be damaged by doping?
I’m thinking of a certain Russian rider recently being given a medal.
Missed the Belgian teams
Lotto – ??? and Omega -Quickstep
And lots coming through: eg Canadian – Spidertech
Wouldn’t call Lotto / QS national teams, in same way as wouldn’t call most of the French and Italian outfits as national.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sky’s money would be damaged. Wouldn’t GreenEdge? Don’t really know where the Katusha money is coming from (5x sal is now from Kolobnev I guess). But ultimately they all have the commercial imperatve of race entries, and we don’t really understand yet how much doping will stop PT entry.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If you think Kolobnev is ever gonna pay that...
…oh man do I have some prime real estate to sell you.
Of course he’ll pay. He signed a contract. A man’s word is his bond. You watch.
Stk Mkt tip: Buy pork futures now. Price is going to soar.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm curious (and I can't be bothered reading the book)
Not a flyer, given content of book – he points the finger at others, plays up how he’s been cheated by cheats;
Does he point the finger at anyone who has not been actually busted and DQ’d? Maybe he thinks its OK to have a go once the information is all out there.
Obv doesn’t pt at specific rders, but with a chapter heading like “The playng field is not level” you see how it’s a wide finger being pointed … how it’s the world against Cuddles, again.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that Arnold extrapolating from Evans' reticence?
(Rather than something that’s come from Evans himself?)
To me, Evans’ reticence is kind of comprehensible: he’s not the most open or approachable rider on a lot of subjects, is he? Some people just aren’t. (The Tibet thing is a total red herring: however brave & principled he was on that (& I think he was) it’s something entirely different to speaking out about something that concerns you directly or that’s personal, one way or another.
I felt the stuff at the end of the Tour was (to an extent anyway) the hacks giving Evans the kicking they’d wanted (with better reason) to give Contador but which Contador had denied them by selfishly failing to win.
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
Honestly don’t know. If asked, I would say most of the book is Arnold. (This is why, earlier, I was enquirng as to who Arnold is and what he’s normally like.) There’s v little from Evans. But Evans obv had ultimate sign off on it. And put his name to all of it.
Any perceived kicking Cuddles got could be saved resentment unleashed, not just him beng a surrgate for Bert. Evans’ lack of approachability to the media does make him a target for them.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The Tibet thing
I wasn’t talking about the T-shirt (just to make sure we are on the same page) Evans has sponsored a Tibetan child for years and now actively supports the orphanage itself. He is deeply committed and has visited there many times. But it may well be that his commitment is political rather than religious.
I think it’s more just human. Empathy. Plus a love for Tintin, which I’ve been meaning to mention. I mean really, of all the reasons that could be offered to talk me down off the fence, there’s Evans’ love for Tintin. Forget what interview I read the Tintin thing in but I know Evans is a fan. Has anyone evil ever liked Tintin? Of course not!
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate dogs. Because they hate me. They know I’m scared of them and so they bark at me, the little bastards.
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not quite sure
what you’re saying about the Tibet thing? Or perhaps more accurately, I’m not sure what you think I’m saying about it?
I’m not doubting his sincerity or commitment, far from it. I’m just saying that for some people something slightly more distant is easier to talk about, even if it still has the capacity to get you into trouble.
To give an example (if I can be allowed a slight dispensation from the no politics rule for a couple of lines), I’m far more angry & vocal on the subject of student tuition fees than I am on the issue of severe cuts to museums & galleries, just simply because I have to deal with the practical implications of said cuts every day which kind of takes up all the energy I have to deal with it. Of course, objectively, if I actually think about it, I’m absolutely fucking furious but it’s quite hard (for me anyway) to exist in that kind of state too much of the time.
"I’m hoping for the Mortirolo-Gavia combination, then we can ride down to Bormio for ice cream." Emma Pooley on the Giro Donne
Yeah, that actually makes a ton of sense.
And I’ve often wondered if some riders just try to put doping out of their mind? Like, they don’t want to think about it? Because if they do, it’ll just drain the energy and heart right out of them? So for me, I guess lack of comment can mean that they’re hiding something, but it could also mean they are trying not to dwell on something that would make their job considerably more difficult. I mean, if you think everyone around you is doping, it’s going to be harder to avoid doping yourself and if you decide not to dope, you automatically give yourself an excuse to suck. Which is maybe not ideal for a pro athlete.
I mean, if you think everyone around you is doping, it’s going to be harder to avoid doping yourself and if you decide not to dope, you automatically give yourself an excuse to suck.
And the problem with this is?
Evans coulda bin somebody. He coulda bin a contenda. He coulda bin my Heroic Failure. Then he went and blew it all and began to believe in himself. The fool.
I think mebbe I just want the old Cuddles back …
by fmk on Aug 3, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I don’t necessarily think this is the best ever reason not to say anything, but it’s one explanation.
Not really arguing the point either way. Way too early in the morning here for arguing stuff.
~ Gavia ~
In fact, you should be watching for plenty of this from greenEDGE
It will just make them more popular. Pick grrenEDGE riders for your VDS at your own risk- you have been warned.
Sounds like this thread is more interesting than the book. Thanks to everyone. That killedd my last bit of work.
by mr. rogers on Aug 3, 2011 10:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
My manager and I
left work at 3 to ride to our end of day meeting. The weather here today was perfect…
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
im practicing for the worlds in qatar
95+ for about 2 weeks straight…it looks like i just stepped out of the shower when im done.
by mr. rogers on Aug 4, 2011 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Meh
I look like that when I ride in winter…
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
Get away! It's mine! Mine!!!
I saw it first!
Also, I was appropriately punished this morning after getting up at 5am to ride – 2 flats in one session before the ride had to be abandoned.
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
It's been a fun one to discuss.
A clear indicator of the quality of the review, given the obvious quality of the book….
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
Or a clear indicator of the level of intrest in the subject.
Cuddles. Bringing people together.
by fmk on Aug 5, 2011 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Read on his Twit today that another book is in the offing. Will wait for your review with bated breath.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Who’s to be the ghost in the marketing machine this time?
by fmk on Aug 6, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
ps If it’s put out by Hardie Grant I v much doubt they’ll let me near a review copy. Then again, they didn’t let me near a review copy of this one either, despite being asked nicely.
by fmk on Aug 6, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
They'd be silly not to give you a copy. You whet our appetites, even if it's a sort of ghoulish fascination.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well speaking personally I find his somewhat impenetrable nature
kind of interesting and endearing because I think the prickliness that you admire comes after the defenses have been worn down a bit.
And I find your idiosyncratic obsession with everyone denouncing all doping all the time (note – I freely admit I’m taking massive liberties with the truth here), equally as interesting and impenetrable.
Both of which lead me to somewhat Quixotically attempt penetration.
(I’m too drunk to take this all the way to the obvious sexually frustrated metaphors and I’m relying on the rest of the cafe to step up and do their part now).
"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R
No maybe I've been living under a rock for the last few years but I don't ever recall
Hearing anything ever insinuating that Evans wasn’t clean. All of a sudden there is a cloud of doping suspicion around him? Where did this come from?
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
It's not serious, and it's probably the same ones who were sure their favourite would win....
or the pea brains over at the Clinic who put up a new thread saying that so and so is doping because they won.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If anything, I'd always heard that he was pretty much as squeaky clean as they come
That bs is extremely infuriating!
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
I don't think it's worth worrying about really. What gs has written below is the only thing I've ever heard,
and of course it didn’t make it as far as Oz ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Nah, it isn't
Stuff like that exists about every gc man out there. They all have a cloud above them, and in Cuddles’ case it’s a very small white fluffy one which most likely doesn’t contain rain.
I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.
Thanks. We are very swift to ban dopers and condemn them, so I figure if there'd been anything to it,
Australians would have heard lots about it.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Little tidbits here and there
Like his 2008 urine samples which were retested for Cera cause UCI considered him ‘suspicious’. Stuff like that, but I’m no doping expert, so maybe someone else can fill in the blanks?
I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.
I've got a HLN article here, but I'm sure the gnomes can make sense of it for you
I am ready to hug the world - Tony Martin.
Have you seen his wife’s defence of him, from Spring time?
by fmk on Aug 6, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I think she's Cadel's greatest triumph and he appears to appreciate that.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
SpunOut – the doubts (questions) were there before the Tour. Before Mendisio. Were they more or less than for other riders? Prob about average. The Germans had the Ferrari link in 07, but then they also had the Telekom link so prob think everyone who wore pink has a cloud over their head.
Before the Tour this year the questions amped up, with Sven the soigneur and Wim Vansevenant getting busted.
by fmk on Aug 6, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions

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