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As I sit here trying not to spit watermelon seeds into my laptop after a lovely 3.5 hour ride in another gloriously temperate West Texas August day, I begin to wonder what do those of y'all who ride regularly take with you to eat?

(I'm jump clueless and my legs are fried, so no jumping in this post today).

 

See, after watching the lovely little documentary vive le tour and reading and re-reading Tim Krabbe's The RIder, I've started to get a little old-school about my ride nutrition.  Well, ok, I haven't performed any "chausse cabinets" or whatever, but thanks to Krabbe I have started taking figs--not fig newtons, but figs--and almond butter and jelly sandwiches with me on rides.

That towards the end of the ride stop at the Convenience store?  Fritos and Beef Jerky has become way more appealing than the moon pies and Backroad's Bakery fried pies.  (Although a ridiculous corporate legal action might prevent the perfect last hour drink.

I've hit that part of the riding year where another clif bar or gel just might push me over  . . . 

So . . . anyone else sick of sports nutrition products?  (And somehow, I think I did a version of this same post a couple of years ago . . .)

And there's this one convenience store in Tuscola that has Apple soda in the soda dispenser . . .

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Yup,

after four or five hours in the saddle, I need real, tasty food and no more sportsfood.
I eat lots of banana’s during my rides and I wrap cake or sandwiches into aluminum foil for the last two hours. I also eat these during rides (plenty of carbs, I’ve got coeliac disease, so no regular sports bars for me)

by broerie on Aug 7, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I snack on these all the time.

SO TASTY.

I remember when i was about 10, they cost 30 pence. No wonder i got addicted.

Chuck Norris isn't fit to wear Jens! cleats.

by Millsy_1989 on Aug 7, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems they got cheaper since then.

by papyrus on Aug 8, 2011 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

:O

I always got them from the paper shop, it’s just routine. Dang, hello Sainsburys, nice to see you…

Chuck Norris isn't fit to wear Jens! cleats.

by Millsy_1989 on Aug 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

the local polish import shop has them in flavors, too—orange, coconut, mixed berry. Much nicer than they sound. Dried apricots plus dark toblerone are also a nice combination on the “sweet” side, especially in the fall, if you live somewhere with apple trees and windfall apples. Won’t say no to a chunk of hard cheese, either (better wrapped in a napkin than in plastic) for the salt craving.

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

For long rides that aren't intense I avoid the normal sports nutrition stuff

Nutella sandwiches (sometimes with banana)
Rice crispie treats (with dried fruit and almonds mixed in)
PB&J
Snickers bars

Sometimes I make my own energy bars witha lot of dried fruit, almond meal, rolled oats, and jam.

My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia

by Douglas Ansel on Aug 7, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

These things are amazing/deadly

Cocaine Bars from CyclingTips

Make these things with Bob’s Red Mill Gluten-Free Oats and the celiacs will be happy too.

by CollegiateCyclingRocks on Aug 7, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

sounds awesome

Sminer: I blame KARMA for everything.
Jens: I've heard it's a bitch
Water Girl: I heard it ran over your dogma

by kom vuelta on Aug 7, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I referenced before for what I make

Thanks for putting up link.

PS – these things kick a$$!!

My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia

by Douglas Ansel on Aug 7, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I vary over time

but pbj, a crunchy apple, an orange, a hard nectarine or pear in season, and then a mix of peanuts and raisins and craisins are my usuals.

West Texas though. You know there are a few Dairy Queens out that way. They make nice sundaes, blizzards, and coffee smoothies. Just something to think about :-) You can plot your route appropriately …

I’m not one that minds stopping to eat though. Even if it is just stuff I am carrying.

by Markk on Aug 7, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Dairy Queen

The Blizzard is a caloric atrocity.

The franchise-holder for Dairy Queens out here sucks: abysmal service. A buddy and I once waited for over 40 minutes at the Cross Plains, TX (home to Robert E. Howard, creator of Conan the Barbarian . . .) DQ for a simple burger and fries.

When I was a kid the joke ran that the key criteria for determining whether a town in Texas was actually a town was whether it had a Dairy Queen. The specifically Texan affair with the specifically Texan Dairy Queen (they’re way different pretty much everywhere else except maybe Oklahoma) has almost ended: Sonic is the new Dairy Queen: and the Sonic Cherry-Limeade totally rocks. And they don’t take 40 minutes to make a burger . . .

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I waited long for Sonic burger in Phoenix ... oh well

So sad that the Dairy Queen ethic is fading there! Rode from El Paso to the Sabine pretty much fueled by DQ so I’ll always have a soft spot for them. Yeah, I never understood why Grand Tour guys didn’t have a big blizzard every day! They’d be gaining weight over the length of the Tour.

by Markk on Aug 7, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's that "In Phoenix" part ;-)

Check it out over 900 Sonics in TX

There are 3 within 2 miles of my house.

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know what I miss about the TX DQ's...

Steak Finger baskets!!! DQ’s here in VA don’t do chicken fried steak.

by swells on Aug 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want a way to carry cold watermelon.

It’s so effin hot and humid here no food is appealing. Bottles and bottles of cold beverage, many stops into the convenient stores to fill bottles w/ ice and grab something cold. Somebody will grab a cheap gallon bottle of cold water to pour over ourselves. I’m as skinny as I get right now. When I get home, it’s an ice cold beer in the shower and then a no holds bar eatathon.

When it’s not this hot, I do like dansel mentioned above. I stay away from gels and bars except for races.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 7, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

There's a way . . . it just wouldn't be pretty.

You can stuff a lot into one of those enormo-camelbaks.

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're looking for someone with an electric car and nothing to do on the weekends.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 7, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bag of these and an ice cold coke pulled me out of a hunger bonk not long ago

My new love

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 7, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ ∞

I can’t approve this message enough…well the chips, not the coke

by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 7, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make it

sea salt and vinegar, and I’m right with you.

by kos on Aug 8, 2011 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

sahale snacks, mighty addictive

The Valdosta is odd but oddly compelling (pecan, cranberry, black pepper). It’s been a dinner or sorts when a ride ran long, and unlike nut butter sandwiches, if you don’t end up eating them, you can stick them back on the shelf for the next ride.

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pellizotti can carry watermelons for you

Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...

by TheFigurehead on Aug 8, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Traditional: Bananas and coffee after ride.

After arriving home real food followed by a Haggen Dasz.

Cadel!

by perezbike on Aug 7, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Those things are tasty fa sho

Had a few on hand this winter, downed them on XC skiing expeditions. Honey = where it’s at.

My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia

by Douglas Ansel on Aug 7, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i use the powdered energy drinks plus i

always squeeze a lemon into the bottle – turns the taste from pretty awful to great. If i think that won’t be enough i just stick some fruit in a pocket – a banana, an apple cut into quarters, a peeled orange in quarters, or whatever. If it’s going to be a really long hard ride i’ll put some more of the energy powder stuff in a bag, plus another lemon cut in two and then stop somewhere and mix up another batch.

by yeehoo on Aug 7, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a monkey...love, love, love bananas - always have and always will. Either eat one right when starting out or about mid-ride.

I like cliff bars too (slap one on my stem and let the sun make it gooey – yep, I’m weird)…but nutella is lust for me. They should put that in a squeeze tube…oh, idea! Also like PBJs, but for drinks I am a basic water guy – sometimes I half and half in some gatorade or something (lime aid or lemonade)…but am pretty simple.

by JustJoshinYa on Aug 7, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Mechanic at the LBS sorta hates Gatorade/energy drinks in bottles

cuz of what the inevitable leaks do to the cable-guides under the bottom bracket.

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the stuff gathers and congeals

and can freeze up the cables.

Gary’s first question when someone comes in complaining about bad shifting: “Do you ride with a sports drink or soda?”

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way more salt from sweat here than any worry of some sports drink leakage.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 11, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The new LBS is grand-opening their new building this weekend

it has a bike wash station . . .

Dude I used to ride with not only corroded through a handlebar or two, but got a trek oclv frame warrantied cuz his sweat corroded through the cable-stop fittings.

by R Mc on Aug 12, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

the bottles leak the stuff, it gathers in the guides

and turns into a cement that practically stops the cables from moving . . .

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna take a close inspection...

I try to clean under there every so often…but never once thought about this. No shift problems (yet), but definitely good to know.

by JustJoshinYa on Aug 7, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rather . . .

 . . . the bottles leak the stuff, it gathers in the guides and the bike is not cleaned so after multiple rides the shifting gets messed up.

Interestingly, most shops for some reason still have no designated location to wash a bike.
Which really should be STEP 1 of any real maintenance procedure.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 7, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing I do really well is keep my bike clean.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 8, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing that kills me about living in the city...

…no hose.

Bucket and brush with water every so often for me.

by Ed K on Aug 10, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be great if the local shop had a place you could use?

To me, this is such a simple thing.
Right up there with providing a pump for anyone who needs to add some air in their tires.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 11, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally

Hell I’d even throw a couple of bucks into a machine to make it work if they wanted to make money off the deal.

"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R

by omnevelnihil on Aug 11, 2011 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sold

This is brilliant, even down to the wrapping technique. I’m totally doing this, especially through the winter and early spring when I tend to get hunger bonks the most. Moving on to his rice recipe next.

Thanks a ton for this.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 7, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here’s the rice cakes, yum.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 7, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was the Old School long ride food of choice way back before there really were things called ‘energy bars’

I always preferred Red Potatoes.
The flavor just seems a little bit better.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 7, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

Wife hates potatoes so my diet’s deficient in them. This looks delicious with the parmesan! Thanks for posting.

by yarb on Aug 8, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's

classic.

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

So

I’ve already made a batch of these potatoes. Love them, as does my little boy, he said: " Delicious…Daddy, you are a good cook", ha. Going in his lunch box.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Aug 11, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet Potatoes work well also.

Here in TW, you can pick up med. sized Sweet Potato at a local Quickie Mart already baked and just kept warm for about 0.50 USD.

They’ve been my long ride/work day quick food lately.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 7, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Europe in winter--roasted chestnuts.

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

See, you lost me at ’Europe in winter . . . "

Dood, I live on a tropical island.

The closest I’ll ever get to riding my bike through Europe in the winter eating roasted chestnuts is if I slip Nat King Cole on my Mp3.
Haha

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 12, 2011 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Little Debbie, Little Debbie

Unit Cost per Calorie is possibly the lowest.

I think an entire box of Oatmeal Pies is about the same, or less then one Cliff Bar.

Sadly, they have no distribution in Taiwan.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 7, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Moon pies!

But all of that stuff falls afoul of the “can’t stand sweet stuff” problem.

by R Mc on Aug 7, 2011 11:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ramin Noodles

Another thing I picked up in TW on long days is to eat Ramin Noodles Dry.

  • Open Bag and fish out the seasonings.
  • Add seasonings to bag to your desired level
  • Close bag, break up noodles and shake vigorously.
  • Open and eat like snack chips.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 7, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

This sounds insane

I’m going to try it, and if I die I’ll sue you

by yarb on Aug 8, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suggest to go light in the seasoning and shake vigorously.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 8, 2011 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now, in Asia Ramen noodles are looked on quite differently.

I tell you, there have been a few hard days where this pulled me through.

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Aug 8, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

But do they eat them skanky, piss-poor student style?

(open the bag, pour in hot water and then eat them out of the bag)

by Jens on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oat substitute?

Most of the homemade energy bar recipes include oats, to which my digestive system reacts quite poorly. Anyone have any suggestions for a substitute?

I’ve been eating the Hammer Nutrition Almond and Raisin bars are quite enjoy them (oat free). My sister just gave me some Lara Bars that seem to be primarily made with dates, and the apple ones at least a quite tasty.

I'd rather be riding

by HydroCycle on Aug 8, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Lara Bars are delicious

Depending on where in the world you are and the practicality of ordering these, you might check out Thunderbird Energetica bars. They are delicious, and not overly sweet, and are exploding in Austin, Tx. They are a little pricey though, so I don’t buy them too often.

by CollegiateCyclingRocks on Aug 8, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the Lara Bars too

Keep meaning to play around with making them myself. It’s amazing how simple they seem – dates, fruit, 1-2 seasonings. Surely it can’t be too hard!

My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia

by Douglas Ansel on Aug 8, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

pricey, and don't know how it digests in bulk,

but hemp seed might work. More fat and protein, so it doesn’t keep so well, but you could freeze the bars and take out a few at a time. Oh, and cherry larabars are great. Pricey, too, though.

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beer or Twink

Usually I eat before riding and don’t eat on rides less than 5 hours or so. Maybe I’ll put a ‘Nuun’ in the first waterbottle. Here in France I like to stop at a café, and drink a “Demi-Pêche”; a beer with a little peach syrup…it has just that little bit of sugar, and the beer has the other necessary food groups; alcohol and salt. I remember a ride 20 years ago. We stopped, I bought a twinkie, was razzed by the boyz ‘till the first climb, where I soundly trounced the yups. After that I called out “twinkie power!” as I continued to ride away. All those preservatives musta worked, because I finally put on a 26 cog, replacing the 23 after I turned 61…Sonora Pass had kicked my ass so bad I decided to try those 3 extra teeth. I climbed the Galibier both ways a couple of Sundays ago in the ’ol 39X26. Maybe I’ll buy myself a compact crank for my 70th birthday. Or maybe not.

by velocodger on Aug 8, 2011 2:26 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

this is awesome

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 8, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like to stop regularly at cake shops for whatever looks good and cup of coffee

cuts down the need for mule bars and gels on the ride but can still stomach those.

on a longer ride I’m a sucker for a ham and cheese sandwich for variety, some bulk and slow release energy

by thebongolian on Aug 8, 2011 5:10 AM EDT reply actions  

All the coffee/cake shops of East Anglia have exactly the same cakes:

Chocolate cake
Coffee and walnut cake
Carrot cake
Lemon drizzle cake
Victoria sponge

Usually a selection of four out of these five. Although I like these (esp carrot cake), I find the absolute lack of variation incredible and a bit depressing. Are there really no other recipes? Or do they all buy them from the same wholesaler, deep frozen?

by papyrus on Aug 8, 2011 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bananas

When really down, stop at local café for espresso & pain au chocolat.

"On paper, your team is awesome." -- Pigeons on my WVDS team, and life in general.

by tedvdw on Aug 8, 2011 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

one of the rides i do has a barbeque place on the way back

nothing like slow cooked pork on a ride.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Aug 8, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

new school, no "real food"

Powerbar gels, Saltstick caps, water. Real fruit tastes good but goes right through, which is a problem. Other real food just doesn’t digest fast enough to keep the fire hot.

After though? Anything goes, but not sports nutrition stuff. After a big, big day… chicken fried steak, mashed potatos and green beans. Waffles with ice-cream is also a favorite.

I meant to comment on this on the original thread regarding pro’s versus normal people. It listed some obscene calories for pros, like 5000. Given a 5 hr ride, 1000 calories an hour has got to be wrong. I think most people can’t digest more than about 300 an hour. I’ve done a few 100 mile run races (at 45 yrs old, I happen to be the oldest winner in the history of a 20 year old race… experience over youth) and I’m “lucky” enough to tolerate a gel every 20 mins for as long as it takes. Before my last race I had a stock pile of about 80 gels, I think I ended up eating not quite 50. Same flavor every single one, and I still use just that flavor.

by phantom_51 on Aug 8, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Some kjoule numbers from Flecha's tour:

stage 19: 3:45 ride time, 4029 kJ

stage 18: 6:42 ride time, 6622 kJ

Thus the 1000/calorie/hr burn rate isn’t far off.

by R Mc on Aug 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Course, that's what they're burning, not what they're consuming

which is one of several reasons why that Bicycling piece was laughable.

by R Mc on Aug 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can sportsfood for 3 to 4 hours

But after that I can’t get any more sportsdrink or gels into my stomach. I simply need something tasty.

by broerie on Aug 8, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever I feel like (when the ride's long enough)

Saturday was a “200k” event (130 miles ridden), about 8,000’ vertical. I happened to write down what I ate on the day since I thought it was kind of funny.

Before:
tea with soy milk
oats with soy milk and brown sugar

During (in no particular order):
3 bananas
5? Cliff bars
1 Luna bar
1 and a half Clif granola bar things
3 gels
1 pb & honey sandwich
1 croissant
1 pack cheese & crackers
1 pack pb & cheese crackers
1 single-serving bag of Lay’s potato chips
1 frozen Snickers brownie ice cream sandwich thing
1 old-fashioned donut
one 700ish-calorie pack of Nutter Butter cookies
1 Hammer fizz electrolyte tablet
some other electrolyte tablet with 65mg caffeine

After:
1 large hot cocoa with whipped cream
grilled cheese sandwich with tomato and avocado
french fries
1 slice toasted olive bread with butter
a handful of peanuts
some corn chips
a chunk of cheddar cheese
a bite of a leftover pancake
a spoonful of ice cream
a spoonful of honey (yes, nibbling my way through the kitchen)

Plus, of course, a coupla…gallons? of water.

I would have typically mixed in some Hammer Perpetuem and Heed, but was fresh out.

I’m 5’10" tall, about 152 pounds, bike (Surly Long Haul Trucker steel touring bike) & trunk pack & stuff somewhere a bit over 30 pounds.

For me, on longer rides, the big thing is variety, as I can get tired of almost any particular thing. I’ll pack somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 calories, and then just buy whatever my heart desires along the way.

by gregm on Aug 8, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm still looking for the magic formula

On the bike, I’ve given up on gels and energy bars and eat Cliff Shot blocks (the black cherry with caffeine). I actually like them. I just pop one every 10-15 minutes.

I can survive three hours on those. After that, I start craving more substantive nourishment, and I look for a taqueria at the side of the road.

by kos on Aug 8, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Taco Trucks FTW!

"I'm sorry for all the people who worked to make the descent safe and the tifosi who went up there to watch the race but racing can't be allowed to become a circus. We're not clowns" Marco Pinotti

by jsallee00 on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Black Cherry Shot Blocks...

…MAGIC. Those things rule.

Still need solid food some, but man those things rule.

by Ed K on Aug 10, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They choke me when it's hot, and I'm hot.

Too sweet and mouth-paste-y. Fine for cool days.

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember rock climbers referrring to "Power Tarts"

It turns out that Pop Tarts are strikingly similar in nutrients, calories, etc., to many energy bars. And to me at least, they have the added emotional connotation of being a childhood comfort food. The foil-wrapped packs of two fit nicely in a jersey pocket, but Pop Tarts are definitely more likely to crumble than most of the options mentioned here.

by GreylockGrinder on Aug 8, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

PopTarts have nasty tendency to break in half

in their path from hand to mouth.

And yes, I have turned around mid-ride, scooped the echappee half, and eat it.z

by R Mc on Aug 8, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like to take fruit snacks along

i call them power pellets. i go for the veggie tales ones when i’m feeling healthy, and shark bites when i’m feeling dangerous.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Aug 8, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

My first few cyclosportives I ate and drank so much sweet stuf that i became nauseous.

Unlike the pros, speed isn’t my main concern, avoiding the bonk is my goal. Like thebongolian above, I like eating a little bit of salty stuff like mountain cheese, or ham, meats, especially early or mid event. The salt craving makes this stuff delicious.

Thanks to Krabbé, I have carried the not-as-good French version of fig newtons on rides :)

moo

by Willj on Aug 8, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I get the salt cravings too, I buy a “2X sodium” version of a sport drink mix.

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 8, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I could piggyback on here

and ask some advice:

A lot of people here seem to be saying that aiming to eat about 300 calories per hour on a ride is about right. Does this mean that if I do a 4-hour ride, I should eat, say, 4 clif bars (i.e. one an hour), or the equivalent in calories? Man, I can’t imagine eating that much . . . and yet after a long, hard ride, I have a real problem recovering, I feel like I could eat for hours and not get full.

In other words, on long rides I’m having a hard time finding a balance between eating too much and feeling gross, and not eating enough and getting really hungry. Anyone have any advice?

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 8, 2011 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm definitely a fan of shooting for around 300 calories per hour

which ends up being a bit more than one clif bar per hour. I think of it as trying to replace about half of what you’ve burned, which might be 700-800 cal/hr. (1000 cal/hr, as discussed above, is one really really intense ride). I usually end up a little on the low side of that but just being aware of it helps a lot. Hopefully you will find that the last hour of those 4-5 hour rides will be a lot more enjoyable and you won’t have quite such a huge desire to devour everything in the kitchen upon your return. I had a teammate who used to say he tried to eat enough to not be hungry when he got home. You never get there, but it’s sort of a target that helps you remember to eat.

As you’ve been riding a long way with not much food your body is probably already pretty accustomed to running on fat, so I would try some food with a bit higher protein and fat content than your average sports nutrition product. Hopefully that will keep your blood sugar a little more constant, avoid the feeling of over-eating, and help with the post-ride hunger.

by CollegiateCyclingRocks on Aug 8, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i quite enjoy

devouring everything in the kitchen when i get home

by yeehoo on Aug 9, 2011 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I need to eat more...

…that simple.

I’m the one cliff bar on a 3+ hour ride guy, then spend the rest of the day flattened. This thread is a good lesson for me.

by Ed K on Aug 10, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

try drinking your calories

Pliny,

You can try drinking your calories, if that goes down more easily for you.

I don’t like the corn syrup drinks, e.g. traditional Gatorade — although that brand is moving away from it. Many folks like maltodextrin (shorter-term energy) and soy protein (longer-term energy). Various brands of drink mix will have different combinations of sugars. Whey protein is apparently better-suited for recovery, not as good on a ride…but tell that to all of the folks I know who have loads of chocolate milk on very long rides.

But, yeah, I can get 600 calories into a 24-oz bottle, and I could drink it in an hour. When I’m doing the drink mix — when I’ve got thicker gloves/mittens in the cold and don’t want to fuss with food, or when riding long at night and I want to simplify, or just for variety on longer rides — I usually do one such 600-calorie bottle and one plain water bottle, and go through the pair in about two hours, give or take.

Whatever the answer is for you, you pretty much have to just experiment to see what floats your boat. Happy eating! :)

by gregm on Aug 8, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

this really helps with the monotonous task of gettng calories down

by thebongolian on Aug 9, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll echo the two above and say yeah, you probably would be served by eating a bit more

I go for 200-300 calories an hour depending on how hard I’m riding, which is about one clif bar an hour (give/take) or two bananas or a bottle sports drink and half a bar, etc… Most non-pros are burning 500-800 calories an hour on an endurance ride, depending on how quick they’re going (calories is direct product of average power * time).

If recovering is what seems to be hurting you, try to think of eating on a ride this way: You’re not trying to just avoid a bonk, you’re also eating for tomorrow. That’s why pros eat a lot on “easy” flat stages – to keep glycogen topped off for the next day and make recovering afterwards easier, especially since the body will ony absorb so much at a given time.

My fruit bowl is full of sex wax--gavia

by Douglas Ansel on Aug 8, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks CCR, gregm and dansel, much appreciated!

really, I can already see that your suggestions are going to help a ton.

dansel, thanks especially for that last bit, I find myself dealing with a lot of post-ride fatigue, this can last quite a while . . . but based on above comments I don’t think I’ve been eating near enough, I’ll try to up my calorie intake.

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 8, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

stuffed prunes or dates

with cream cheese and a little pastrami, or chopped nuts, or whatever I happen to have around. Easy to pop in the mouth.

And I always carry jelly beans—even before I knew JellyBelly sponsored a team.

I am a big fan of the chocolate milk and an orange break at the pony keg half-way through the ride.

by uninformed consent on Aug 9, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I like my

chocolate milk before the ride.

by broerie on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer it at the end of the ride.

Well, about an hour after the post-ride espresso/s.

"That race is Belgian in everything but geography" - tgsgirl on the true nature of P-R

by omnevelnihil on Aug 9, 2011 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately I can't keep it in the house

It would disappear long before any riding were to happen!

by uninformed consent on Aug 9, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

how could i forget maltloaf?

awesome, sweet, gooey loveliness. sometime i’ll chop one up into inch cubes and just stuff it into my rear pokets then munch a morsel every ten minutes or so.

great way to keep topped up though my brifters end up slightly gooey and malty at the end of ride

by thebongolian on Aug 9, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

what's a maltloaf? Does it go by other names?

Does it taste like a tigermilk bar? (now, that’s an old energy bar that should make a comeback).

"BECAUSE THERE’S NO F*CKING SPRINTS." -Cavendish (asterisk added)

by JFS_PGH on Aug 11, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

not suitable for rides

but a toasted cheese sandwich made with strong cheddar and maltloaf is divine

and they ell those pre-butteed packs of soreen now which you coud take riding

by thebongolian on Aug 12, 2011 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

My favourite ride food when out for a long ride

Is definitely liquorice alsorts. They don’t melt, come in a bag and taste brilliant. I’ve ridden several centuries on those + water. Wine gums a decent substiute. Eat one every time you remember.

If I’m on a ride where bonking may be an issue I use energy drinks. The first one I tried was Isostar and it worked for me so I’ve never changed. I drink little and often.

On a reasonably hard solo ride I will burn just under 1000kcals/hour. I can’t sustain much higher than that for longer than an hour.

I should also make the point that nutrition is a wierd thing. I climbed Galiber earlier this year. I’d almost run out of water so couldn’t make energy drinks and the shops were all closed. I did it with 1/2 a bottle of Vittel and no breakfast or food at all. I had no problem other than a little dry throat. However, on other mountain days I was using the energy drink like a crutch. Purely psychological.

by Guinea on Aug 11, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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