Rotterdam 6 Days preview video
by Monty. on Jan 4, 2012 3:33 PM EST
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PrintBecause like it starts tomorrow. So go here to see what's coming then bookmark that page because it will turn in to a live stream tomorrow. That's right, a live stream complete with four different cameras, and if you miss anything then they've got a page ready for highlight clips, and a twitter feed to let you know what you missed. And if you can't wait to get in to the mood then head over to You Tube and listen to a bit of Frans Bauer.
So who's there? The men's side has a certain "didn't he used to be banned" quality with Iljo Keisse and Alex Rasmussen both present alongside old stalwarts Danny Stam, Robert Bartko, Peter Schep and Franco Marvulli. The sprinters' competition looks to be a head to head (or is that thigh to thigh) between French stars Mickaël Bourgain and Kévin Sireau, while the women's race sees junior World Champ Lucy Garner trying hard to not be humiliated by giant sprinter Kirsten Wild.
The programme kicks off at 18:00 local time every day, and here's thursday's schedule. You can find the rest of the week's events under the Bezoekersinfo menu. We may even have a live thread or two if we feel in the right mood. Ting-a-ling
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And Schep-Stroetinga the fastest
Nice that Havik and Markus get a chance too. I’ve only read goood things about them.
The Kreder brothers should be fun to watch too.
Frans Bauer was on the Belgian New Year show the other night. It was legendary.
I need to learn the words!
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Just made the mistake of clicking on the video of him and am laughing my head off at the comment below:
“Frans has one of the best and most unusual voices in the world”. Seriously? Same category as, I dunno, Callas?
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Oww my ears! Hahaha
This one was featured a lot on new year’s eve. I’ve been singing it ever since :-/
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Are the people singing along in the video drunk?
Or is it just that the Dutch sound like they are drunk when they sing? (Perhaps a little bit of both.)
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jan 4, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
And I thought that I was the only one
who spent their evening watching Frans Bauer videos on You Tube
by Monty. on Jan 5, 2012 3:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is top class entertainment.
The band will fit nicely on the oval track in Rotterdam.
Stand up!
For the champions!
I won’t go to see it live this year. After three years of free tickets my lucky spell runned out…
Me like bike, no?
I'm going to watch as much as humanly possible but....
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t they miss out on a huge opportunity by not hiring Zanger Rinus for the entertainment? Just imagine the epic-ness of him and Romana going round and round on a derny performing their signature song. Magic.
Is the live stream working for anyone?
The three British girls are probably still on their way
Lucy Garner:
So there’s only 1 run way open in Amsterdam causing lots of delays #notlookinggood
Amy Roberts:
Flight to Amsterdam cancelled so in a taxi to Bristol to get a later flight! #stupidweather
It's up for me
http://um.sport2media.com/zesdaagse-rotterdam/?live=1
Do we want a live thread? (aka I do but have already posted an article today!)
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
And just to make the set
the other two UK girls are also on Twitter, Elinor Barker and Charline Joiner. No idea whether USAian Shelby Reynolds is too
Barker won silver in the World Junior ITT, no?
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's a nice gig for the girls
but it’s a bit of an uneven competition. Day 1 to Kirsten Wild
I've not seen anything
did Sarah see lots of planes taking off this afternoon?
Oh, were they coming from the west?
I saw lots of rain & big winds…
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure they are scheduled for today
Side shows not necessarily on every evening.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Monty!
Did you see this, from a Fuji bikes top brass? Great suggestions for UCI!
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/post-311/guest-editorial-new-year-new-challenge
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Interesting
(I should really read it again later when I don’t keep getting interrrupted by the Oh Oh, Oh-ho-ho). I’m always a bit wary of the mandate and force argument, because I suspect that those who don’t actually want to do it will do it in such a half-assed and destructive way that it screws it totally for those who do want to do something. I’d rather them find a way to give some other sort of credit. WT points for the teams, and say (as in I don’t know what the technical agreements are) make no extra charge to races for UCI officials to be present. Funding the latter from a general increase in charges if necessary,
I'm in favour of a combo of how they're dealing with CX & MTB
In CX, any race that wants to be C1 or C2 has to have a women’s race – I’d allow men’s races to ally with women’s races from other organisers if they wanted rather than setting up new ones – eg Giro Donne & Giro – and not have them necessarily on same day – and I’d adopt the elegant MTB solution, where teams don’t HAVE to have women’s teams, but the season-long points competition is judged on a combo of best men’s & best women’s points – so they don’t HAVE to have a women’s team, but it sure helps!
(It’s v interesting to me that the UCI can do things in CX & MTB but not road…)
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Even just a set of rules for the women would be nice
instead of the current, “fuck it, the Conti rules will do, let’s go down the pub”
Ha, yes indeed!
I’d love to know more about what happened to the recommendations of that UCI group set up that included Arndt & Ronny Lauke…. or even what they were, tbh
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
for another time maybe, but there is already a rule in the book
for race organisers of a pro tour event
Support for the development of cycle sport
2.15.207
The licence holder must conduct a policy of support for cycle sport not least by the annual organisation of an event contributing to the development of grass roots cycling. This event may at the organiser’s choice be a road event for women, masters, under 23 or junior riders, an event in a cycling discipline other than road racing or a cycling for all event.
In a document annexed to the licence application, the applicant shall indicate in a detailed manner what type of event he proposes to organise during the period of validity of the licence.
Just swap “may” for “must” and put the words “and either a” after women and you’re off. Just saying…
by andrewp on Jan 5, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, so interesting, thankyou!
I always thought the gran fondo type events were money spinners (eg at Tour of Cali) not that they fulfilled a UCI rule!
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's going to be my earworm for the 2012, I can tell...
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
So, re Iljo
I was generally on his side, because of the craziness about him being banned/unbanned/banned again/unbanned again & I read at one point that his ban was unfair…. but am I being naïve? Did he deserve it all? I’m guessing he’s riding legitimately this time, not in one of his odd “banned everywhere but Belgium” times like last year?
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He's still banned in Belgium until somewhere this month
In Belgium everyone thinks he was inncocent (he managed to prove his supplements were dirty but he also tested positive for another substance. Keisse claims it was in a medicine he took against a cold).
The last time we had the discussion over here, all the non-Belgians had no sympathy for him at all. I’ve decided to stay out of it this time. His suspensions are nearly over anyway.
Yeck
What is this? We want the proper Stand up for the champions, none of this new wave re-interpretation.
Andy Lakatosh from Trexlertown on the track now
Sister Cindy might be worth a google image search.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Blimey!
At first glance at the thumbnail, I thought this was a weird modern re-imagining of the Dutch national dress
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
so much fun!
(do you roll that much, Ted? Did you once say that it’s seen as kind of old-fashioned to roll so much?)
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's a sort of January commentary thing
Oooone Huuuuuunndred and EEEIIGGHTY
I'm surprised there aren't more of the trackies with olympic dreams here
getting in the practice
(I’m an enormous track fan, but when riders like Hoy complain about the oh-so-tough competition schedule – Euros AND having to ride at least 2 World Cups, 1 of which is in UK AND Olympics, I laugh outloud)
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I was thinking about the omnium riders & sprinters, really
would’ve thought the more experience in the elim/points/scratch races, the better
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
(I mean, the riders who want to be competing in the Olympics should be here
sorry, I’m slow as hell today!)
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
those were considered the 'endurance events'
Most of these guys ae not fast enough to do well in the omnium and you need very specific training for pursuits
Some of the younger Brits are here for the "Talents Cup"
Tom Moses is tweeting a bit, and Barry Miller and Colin Barry don’t sound like Dutch names. Well maybe Barrrrrrrrrry.
TEAM elim?
Never seen that! Fantastic!
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Can get tricky
Team Rabo with Kreder were just eliminated because they changed on the last turn and got no room.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Yes!
This works in VLC for me. How I get to that: open page in Safari, open ‘Activity’ window (alt-cmd-a) and look for suspicious URLs. Select, copy, paste into VLC network stream textbox.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Fantastic!
That’s a few seconds ahead of the usual stream & MUCH better quality! Thanks so much Ted, you are awesome!
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Two monitors
or watch the pelota and listen to this
I've got them both on...might get conplicated but I'm sure I've live
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
This'll be on for a while yet....
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
This is amazing. I'd like it better if they actually rode round holding hands though
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
o/t but broerie, ted, anyone else, will you be at CX Worlds?
(Ted, I mean are you still planning to be at CX worlds?)
If so, fancy meeting up for a beverage?
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I may come over at some point to say hi (probably in the evening)
but I can’t make it to the worlds… work
Do they choose their own partners
And how many of the races are legit? All but derny, I hope?
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every combination has to win an event at some point
the madisons are the real deal (and even there in the first 20 minutes eveyone gets to take a lap)
Ah, ok
How they decide who wins what?
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
It's this time
when we all realise how much more Dutch we’ve picked up over the previous year
According to Google Translate:
But I’d say something like Trashing Men.
by blackswangreen on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I like it for the lyrics
There’s an Elton John song, called “made in England” where the lyrics are basically slagging off the type of person likely to sing along, which I like in the same way…
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it couldn't be that!
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
It should have been.
We traded New York for Surinam.
by blackswangreen on Jan 5, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
And we get the proper version
of Stand Up for the Champions
Wasn't it the Berlin 6
that used stonking great BMW bikes instead of the little 50cc dernies
They did that all the time in older sixes
“The Big Motorbikes” next to the smaller dernies. Spectacular. Much more noise and smoke (and speed).
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
They just can't help themselves, the Germans.
BIgger, faster machines.
This track is much bigger than theone in Gent
meaning they can actually race the derny’s here (I’m not sayin they will though)
Nope, "Ted van de Weteringe" I think, or else tedvdw like here
but I asked them to delete all my info.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Because I wanted to leave the site and couldn't
There was no ‘delete my account’ button. And I wanted to leave because I didn’t care much for the busy social aspect, especially all the climbing challenge notifications. And there are no climbs near me, anyway.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Yep.
Although a little more legendary in his own right ;)
by blackswangreen on Jan 5, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
We don't have any suspended dopers at the moment.
So we’ll have to do with this guy.
by blackswangreen on Jan 5, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
You can start your training by helping me with all my Christmas chocolates
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
I hear it's most effective in liquid form
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Is the centre bit an open bar area
or booked seperately
Ladbrokes gives you 500 to 1 on "Jerome Coppek" as Tour winner
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jan 5, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Can you get Albertina along too?
You two could ride in front of me while you sing “tooter tooter tooter, Met Albertina op den scooter”
So you're not
one of the three and a half million?
Wait until he post the Zanger Rinus video again
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jan 5, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Make it a rickshaw, with Albertina as passenger
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
My dear, you certainly do speak
Very Correct English!
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was expecting some sort of dirty Cockney
and turns out our Albertina speaks an incredibly clean and civilised English
She's happy right now for sure!
I really really want her to do well, she deserves the form and the luck to coincide finally
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
I want Helen to win!
I’m worried she’s not on form, though….
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
It's a bit hard really as they're both my friends
but I just think what it would do for Gabby would be amazing. Wouldn’t be surprised if Nikki won though, she’s in the form of her life. Helen’s not right at all at the moment…ill, off colour, bad legs
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
So that dude hasn't had time yet to find out how Nys' name should be pronounced
but he’s found the time to seduce other racers.
At least he’s got his priorities straight
They met in the US when she was racing over there at th start of the season.
Hardly any foreigners pronounce Nys properly which I always find amazing…it’s not hard!
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
by Albertina on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Which is good, by the way
or at least I thought so, because I hate my ugly TV-induced Dutch-American accent and speaking to an Oxbridge alumna made me try harder.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Glad to be of service!
My father claims my accent got more BBC after I went to Cambridge. I’m unconvinced!
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
when BBC is posher or less posh?
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ted
you’d be even more awesome with a Canadian accent …. maybe small town east coast to start …. we’ll build to Toronto – “eh”
moo
We had Newfie kids stay at our place
on a high school exchange programme, but unfortunately we never went on the visit back.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
The Americans at the Chainstay last week told me I sounded like a princess!
Must be the way I was brung up.
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
I did realise this, but not before my blood pressure had arisen a tad ;)
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
I'm adding it to my list of Grammatical errors made by Ted
which I will one day publish as a fanshot
(all 3 of them, bah, you really do type better English than the Brits all do)
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Vicar's Daughter pronunciation!
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. One had to read the lesson in church sometimes as an angelic clergy child!
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Surprise!
(actually, i’m surprised sireau seems to have stopped causing quite so many crazy crashes recently)
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by Sarah Connolly on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so happy I finally have a computer that will handle Silverlight....
…so I can see this stuff this year.
Alternatively: Aflossing = relay
but most Dutch cycling people have also heard Madison. See Jens’ reply.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
How long does this go on for? I might watch on the turbo for a bit...can I be bothered though?
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
They found Rasmussen.
He is now at the front of the race.
I saw a great hemet cam of a madison a while ago (it ended with a crash)
I can’t find it anymore. A shame because it gave a good idea of how hectic these races are
No
He would do anything for love, but he won’t drive a derny (true story)
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jan 5, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Leon van Bon, classy rider
won 2 Tour stages and a bronze at Worlds but never a big classic. 1999 was his best year I think:
2nd – Rund um den Henninger-Turm
2nd – GP van Wallonië
3rd – Omloop Mandel-Leie-Schelde
4th – Parijs-Brussel
6th – Milaan-San Remo
6th – Parijs-Roubaix
6th – Amstel Gold Race
8th – Parijs-Tours
10th – Gent-Wevelgem
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Yep, tried to get a lap just now
or still is, I’m not paying very close attention.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
What? I'm sure he tried to win!
He’s a pretty fast finisher, only just not fast enough.
"Beer helps." -- Ant1.
Albertina is op turbo.
Only just managed to get the stream to load on my retarded netbook, after 20 minutes! Have I missed much?
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
by Albertina on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So I see. Who got laps and stuff and what are the standings?
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
by Albertina on Jan 5, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bah! Only if you sit on a derny in front of me.
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
by Albertina on Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the race isn't over yet, just the madison
Keisse/terpstra in the lead together with Stam/Havik, Schep/Stroetinga and Mouris/Marvulli
(I think, I was mainly paying attention to Keisse/Terpstra and Youri Havik)
Boo you two! Stay up and have a beer!
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
by Albertina on Jan 5, 2012 4:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm killing it you meanie!
Ok ok, interval coming up…bah
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
by Albertina on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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