Ohh Man, a Sprinter Showdown.
by Uphill on Feb 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST
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PrintYes, the Tour of Oman is on from Feb 14 -19 and here we will get a first glimpse of the competitive nature of the current crop of tier 1 fastmen. Everybody knows Cav is pretty quick, but how far behind are Greipel and Kittel this year? Ok, this is an early season race, and we may hear lame excuses, but the action here could be vital information, if you plan to select a top end sprinter in the FSA DS game.
There are several flattish stages in the race. Stage 6 below:
via www.letour.fr
More info below the cut:
To spice the fastmen competition up a bit, serveral teams are sending their top end material as well:
Farrar, Sagan, Galimzyanov, Goss, Blythe, Bouhanni, Brown and Guardini are all showing up.
Full startlist.
Don't like the flat stages? Well, we also have a MTF on stage 5:
via www.letour.fr
I understand there will be a 30min race recap every day on Eurosport, probably around midday (CET). Look for links to streams the usual places.
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The sand dune on stage 5 seems to be more than 5% for the last 12 kms ….. so that’s something.
Is it just me, or does this race along with Qatar need to be such long multi-stage races.? Could they be bigger if they tried to construct an interesting one day thing? Or are millions of petro-dollars somehow involved and funding entire seasons?
moo
did you see the same climbing stage last year?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Would anybody turn up for a day race?
And yes, Oil talks.
(I would prefer if the entire elite peloton moved to South America this time of year, in places were we have serious amounts of spectators)
Oil doesnt so much talk
as sit in a library declaiming its views on life with a foghorn
One of the many reasons I like bicycles
Warning... not everything I say should be taken entirely seriously
+1
gotta be better preparation and better weather than whatever else they’d be doing.
"I’m pretty disappointed, but if this is what people want to see, a race decided on a downhill," Andy Schleck said. "I don’t think that. A finish like this should not be allowed."
I believe the highlights are supposed to air at 1300CET
Or, that’s what nascent live stream links are telling me…
I NEED MOAR MUD
FYI, that is 7:00 AM EST
I NEED MOAR MUD
by Douglas Ansel on Feb 13, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
the ES highlights shows are a little all over the place to be honest
various times on various days, but usually repeated a couple of times a day, but need to check on both channels, and algarve is live some days, and highlights only on others (and advisory notice that coverage regularly follows live tennis and snooker so may not run totally to time)
http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/ is the UK tv guide (international and other countries ES coverage varies)
No chance here.
I mean there’s snooker, tennis and skiing going on. Who cares about cycling?
I want to move somewhere I can get Belgian TV. Or Dutch maybe.
"These are my principles and if you don't like them....well I have others." Groucho Marx
Brown? Bouhanni?
Yet no mention of the man on the lips of everyone lately, Boonen? Or Blythe, Oss…
by RollinRollinRolland on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 AM EST reply actions
yes, Oss looks interesting. Lets see what he can do here.
Boonen otoh probably wants to stay clear and try not to hurt himself. Traffic could get congested.
Yeah, he said he's in this one to help his team mates and not to win
It's pronounced "Int-CHOW-stie"
Go Aidis :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I know, but I can dream :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
They both are ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Greipel wins Stage One. I don't know yet about the other places.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Very nice.
So, as I understand the stupid TV scheduling we will get a 30min recap of stage 1 tomorrow on Eurosport 2 (in some parts of Europe) at around midday (CET).
So frustrating. It sounds like an exciting sprint.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Stage One: A who's Who of Sprinters
Greipel, Galimzyanov, Farrar, Kittel, Sagan. Top 5 on todays stage #tourofoman
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
glad to see Farrar getting some sprinter's legs back
PopUp – we need your orange asterisk thingy back.
won't be hard to outperform last year (other than TdF stage win)
PopUp – we need your orange asterisk thingy back.
This may be the link we need for results this week.
http://www.cyclingcoverage.com/races/race.php?id=2414&stage=3371#.TzpJl7w4bgc.twitter
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
An explanation for Cav's no show:
MarkCavendish Mark Cavendish
Yep, not the best of days today. Ran off the road by Alexander Kristoff with 1200m to go. Shit happens. Well done to @AndreGreipel.
2 hours ago
MarkCavendish
RT
cjsutton2: Well that didn't go 2 plan! @MarkCavendish got put in dirt and 1 foot out. Don't know how he held it up.TeamSky were strong.2 hours ago
MarkCavendish Mark Cavendish
RT @IStannard: 160k….1 corner…. 1 pile up nice one guys
2 hours ago
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Stage 1 result:
1 André Greipel (GER) Lotto Belisol Team 3:26:09
2 Denis Galimzyanov (Rus) Katusha Team
3 Tyler Farrar (USA) Garmin – Barracuda
4 Marcel Kittel (GER) Project 1t4i
5 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale
6 Nacer Bouhanni (Fra) FDJ-Big Mat
7 Daniel Oss (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
8 Andrea Guardini (Ita) Farnese Vini – Selle Italia
9 Tony Gallopin (Fra) RadioShack-Nissan
10 Matthew Harley Goss (Aus) GreenEdge Cycling Team
GC almost the same:
1 André Greipel (GER) Lotto Belisol Team 3:25:59
2 Denis Galimzyanov (Rus) Katusha Team 0:00:04
3 Tyler Farrar (USA) Garmin – Barracuda 0:00:06
4 Alexandre Lemair (Fra) Bridgestone Anchor 0:00:08
5 Mikhail Ignatyev (Rus) Katusha Team 0:00:09
6 Marcel Kittel (GER) Project 1t4i 0:00:10
7 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale
8 Nacer Bouhanni (Fra) FDJ-Big Mat
9 Daniel Oss (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale
10 Andrea Guardini (Ita) Farnese Vini – Selle Italia
Stage 2 profile:
Maybe Goss can do a little better with the short hill before the line?
Until they can hold each others' wheels, GE may struggle and Goss, by his own admission isn't always good at that.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That's the stage 1 profile
The stage 2 profile doesn’t seem to be on the website, but it’s definitely a flat stage. The finish area looks interesting but I guess they won’t ride up those hills yet.
thanks, I see that now.
The real stage 2 profile:
Its Cav’s turn now.
I knew I could count on you for the entertainment.
Famous local band?
Well, they're no Franz Bauer.
But really, who is?
I hope you get first pick in the Ed's league just so I can witness your breakdown as your brain struggles with ………. ehhh something else over who to pick.--Jens
I...couldn't look away.
I hope you get first pick in the Ed's league just so I can witness your breakdown as your brain struggles with ………. ehhh something else over who to pick.--Jens
I'm overwhelmed.
"These are my principles and if you don't like them....well I have others." Groucho Marx
It's my role in life to link
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Highlights from stage 1
Not that there were many of them. I like the men in white robes with drums.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
Well, this confirms two things for me:
- Oman looks considerable more interesting than Qatar
- Greipel won the race.
Sagan wins Stage Two...knock me down with a feather.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It would appear the finish was slightly more difficult than perhaps some of us thought.
Bring on the Hilly Classics.
baden Cooke came second! I could cry with joy...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Maybe not. He's been looking dangerous and he is salivating over the flat Classics. I have a feeling...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
30min recap of stage 1.
Very little to do with racing and all to do with tourism. Seriously, ASO, surely you know how to make solid TV production of a sprint finish. Complete failure imo.
yeah, pretty much what oman highlights are.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
similar to last year?
I don’t recall.
In any case I will give the stage 2 recap a chance and see if things improve.
yes
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Stage 2 recap much better.
Good race in the last 10km or so.
Will hang on for the rest of the stages now.
Stage 2 results:
1. SAGAN Peter LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE 3h 10’ 44"
2. COOKE Baden GREENEDGE CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 00"
3. SLAGTER Tom Jelte RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 00"
4. GALLOPIN Tony RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 00"
5. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 00"
6. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 00"
7. SUTTON Christopher SKY PROCYCLING + 00’ 00"
8. FUGLSANG Jakob RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 00"
9. CANCELLARA Fabian RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 04"
10. GREIPEL André LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM + 00’ 04"
Nice mixture of riders.
GC:
1. SAGAN Peter LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE 6h 36’ 43"
2. GREIPEL André LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM + 00’ 04"
3. COOKE Baden GREENEDGE CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 07"
4. SLAGTER Tom Jelte RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 09"
5. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 10"
6. GALLOPIN Tony RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 10"
7. SUTTON Christopher SKY PROCYCLING + 00’ 10"
8. FUGLSANG Jakob RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 13"
9. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 13"
10. CANCELLARA Fabian RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 17"
Can Sagan handle the Green Mountain?
Correct stage 3 profile below:
Will Cav turn up in the race?
oh shit. Olympic years.
I don’t even recognize the flag.
Kyrgyzstan :)
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Feb 15, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Go the Young Guns. Something went wrong then. Sky were leading the charge.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Stage 3 results:
1. KITTEL Marcel PROJECT 1T4I 3h 23’ 00"
2. GREIPEL André LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM + 00’ 00"
3. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 00"
4. FARRAR Tyler GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 00"
5. SAGAN Peter LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE + 00’ 00"
6. BOONEN Tom OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP + 00’ 00"
7. GUARDINI Andrea FARNESE VINI-SELLE ITALIA + 00’ 00"
8. CAVENDISH Mark SKY PROCYCLING + 00’ 00"
9. BROWN Graeme RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 00"
10. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 00"
Kittel beating a bunch of pretty good sprinters.
i think GreenEDGE have some work to do.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I don't think the "let the road determine who is the leader" plan works when the field
is this strong.
The problem may be that a little later in the season, Goss will be ready to be the leader.
In the meantime…I’d be going with Kruopis.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
GC:
1. GREIPEL André LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM 9h 59’ 41"
2. SAGAN Peter LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE + 00’ 02"
3. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 08"
4. COOKE Baden GREENEDGE CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 09"
5. SLAGTER Tom Jelte RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 11"
6. GALLOPIN Tony RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 12"
7. SUTTON Christopher SKY PROCYCLING + 00’ 12"
8. FUGLSANG Jakob RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 15"
9. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 15"
10. CANCELLARA Fabian RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 19"
Greipel back in the lead, but my money is on Sagan to win overall.
I wouldn't bet against Cance yet.There's a TT.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It's difficult to say how hard the finish of stage 5 is
Last year it was Gesink who won, 47 seconds ahead of Edvald. Then Devenyns, Visconti and Vande Velde. The question is how interested the climbers are this year.
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=19756
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Feb 16, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
agree, it will probably take a long range attack to shake Sagan.
And as you said, who has the heart (and legs) for that.
Climbs are doing some damage with 20km to go...Vandenbergh (OPQS) is off the front solo after dropping Lodewyck (BMC)
and the peloton is ramping it up…Kittel and Goss are dropped
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
The biggest man in cycling is really trying...Stijn has 25s with 20k to go
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 6:50 AM EST up reply actions
up to 40 seconds! He is flogging himself...Want. Live. Video.
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 6:51 AM EST up reply actions
Up to 50 seconds with one finishing loop...big sprinters caught back on
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 6:56 AM EST up reply actions
Up to 1.15...he is showing the form that won him the Tour of Ireland in '07
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 6:58 AM EST up reply actions
Back to 18 seconds...he is going to be caught on the last climb
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 7:05 AM EST up reply actions
V...I can't work out whether Goss is chasing or ahead of Chavanel. I'm assuming chasing?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thank you. I'd really love to be able to see this.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
yes to live Viddy.
Btw the 30min recap of stage 3 was pretty good today. More focussed on the race.
What do you mean 'live' video? are you saying it's on now?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That there should be live video for this race
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
See...all I have is Goss on my mind. My comprehension skills have walked.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Sagan is looking very, very dangerous.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So Chavanel misses out?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Gallopin 3rd. Sutton was fifth. Bouhanni fourth.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Strong performance by Greipel.
Sagan still in pole position for overall imo.
Yeah, Sagan seems to be primed for Green Mountain
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 7:21 AM EST up reply actions
I'd never bet against Sagan, but unless there are lots of hilly climbs...tomorrow maybe?...Greipel may yet hang on.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No chance for Greipel on Green Mountain.
Will drop minuttes.
Whoa! Greipel just came back and won! Outstanding
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Back to the drawing board for me. i hire and fire Greipel on a daily basis.
The fact that he’s now starting to deal with climbs makes him dangerous. Yes, I’m talking about the green jersey.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i agree. I'm trying to fly under the radar about that. When you look at his P-R results, he's been getting better
year by year, and he has a good support team there.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Greipel under the radar.
Good luck with that.
I think it's entirely likely. Most people would rate him not only behind Cav,
but well back from Boonen and Hushovd…which he was. i think things have changed, but many will just write this time off as SSR’s.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Greipel could easily take the win at MSR.
Glorified sprinter race.
He'll certainly be dreaming about it.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That gave me a good chuckle...
he can dream
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
Cav won, so there's no reason that Greips couldn't win
Maybe the distance? If he can make it to the line at the front of the group, he’d be in with a good shot.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
He can make the distance. He finishes P-R (and not at the back), and he finishes MSR.
His training in winter has been different.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I know he can finish the race...but there is a big difference between that and hanging onto the attackers on the Poggio
and still having enough kick at the end. I haven’t seen him produce at that type of length of race
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Cav isn't exactly crushing the climbs either
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
Watching and listening to him I think there's been a shift for the better.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It would be cool to see him win...
It would just be bizarre to me seeing him go up against Cav, Boonen, etc. at the end of 300km
That is a whole ’nother animal then when he is cruising to wins at Oman, Down Under, etc.
KRUoPIS!!!1!!
by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Time will tell. he has a team that is very high functioning which is a help.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Stage 4 results:
1. GREIPEL André LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM 3h 37’ 02"
2. SAGAN Peter LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE + 00’ 00"
3. GALLOPIN Tony RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 00"
4. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 00"
5. SUTTON Christopher SKY PROCYCLING + 00’ 00"
6. KOHLER Martin BMC RACING TEAM + 00’ 00"
7. DE NEGRI Pier Paolo FARNESE VINI-SELLE ITALIA + 00’ 00"
8. CHAVANEL Sylvain OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP + 00’ 00"
9. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 00"
10. COOKE Baden GREENEDGE CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 00"
The boy racer and big man Kittel left behind.
Expanded GC:
1. GREIPEL André LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM 13h 36’ 33"
2. SAGAN Peter LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE + 00’ 06"
3. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 18"
4. GALLOPIN Tony RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 18"
5. COOKE Baden GREENEDGE CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 19"
6. SLAGTER Tom Jelte RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 21"
7. SUTTON Christopher SKY PROCYCLING + 00’ 22"
8. FUGLSANG Jakob RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 25"
9. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas GARMIN – BARRACUDA + 00’ 25"
10. CANCELLARA Fabian RADIOSHACK-NISSAN + 00’ 29"
11. RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KATUSHA TEAM + 00’ 30"
12. LEBAS Thomas BRIDGESTONE ANCHOR + 00’ 31"
13. VELITS Peter OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP + 00’ 34"
14. GUSEV Vladimir KATUSHA TEAM + 00’ 38"
15. JEANNESSON Arnold FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 38"
16. SHIMIZU Miyataka BRIDGESTONE ANCHOR + 00’ 38"
17. TEN DAM Laurens RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 38"
18. VAN WINDEN Dennis RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM + 00’ 38"
19. CASAR Sandy FDJ-BIGMAT + 00’ 38"
20. SCHÄR Michael BMC RACING TEAM + 00’ 38"
21. BAK Lars LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM + 00’ 38"
The GC winner one of the guys above? Sagan for me.
SSRs or not, Greipel is winning left, right, and center at the moment
I’d say he was a good buy for Lotto.
Focus on easy first. If that's all you get, that ain't half bad - Caballo Blanco
Nibbles just won Stage 5, which isn't easy.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
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