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As we all know MSR is a big aim for Cav this year, and Greipel seems to have settled in very well to the Lotto set-up and is winning all over that place atm. Following his win today where liquigas pushed it on the uphill to remove the pure sprinters only to have Greipel win the stage is he to be considered for MSR? It is the 'sprinters classic' after all and it seems he has shown that he can climb as well as sprint formidably. Or does Cav's early season form and strong support give him enough advantage to win again?

Gotta love speculation!

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I'm a Cav fan, but I'd be happy to see it. Of course I'm hoping Goss repeats.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 17, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

Could be fun to watch from the sidelines!

by tc345 on Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I got 2 answers for that...

…No way & No How.
Climbing in Oman is by No means = to climbing in Italia.
Small break will happen, again, this year – sprinters toasted on Poggio,
Cancellara FTW

Soli Deo Gloria

by LooseHorse on Feb 17, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

How big was todays climb?

Do we know, i couldn’t find a profile so i don’t know how it compares to poggio etc, it did seem to be a short distance from the finish though. Although todays race but a mere 140km vs 300km…

by tc345 on Feb 17, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

The climbs were not too big today...like 60m in elevation, some were a bit more.

And the finishing sprint was rather gradual ramp, went up ~20 meters in the last k…so 2ish%

KRUoPIS!!!1!!

by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 17, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

What’s happening this week is all a big tease to get folks to “SUBMIT” their VDS teams before the deadline day and WHAM! Gorilla breaks his collarbone tomorrow. I’m not saying I hope it happens…just saying. My FSA DS Squadra is finalized. Has been for a week. But I ain’t submitting until H-hour D-Day.

by swells on Feb 17, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Good man...patience is a virtue....

…just ask,’ just Andre’

Soli Deo Gloria

by LooseHorse on Feb 17, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah... sanity and succintness

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Feb 19, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, not even ‘maybe’?

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Feb 20, 2012 5:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Considering he got that far last year that he was able to work for Phil-Gil on the Poggio, I don’t see how you can rule him out. It would have to be a pretty big (or unlucky) group that got to the final, for him not to be about the fastest there.

by Triki on Feb 17, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

...Not particularly because he can win in Oman though.

Not as if it’s the ultimate indicator of form for MSR or anything!

by Triki on Feb 17, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ultimate is your word

Indicator though, of form which could see him win MSR? Yes

And apart from a few (Boonen, Cancellara, Farrar) at that stage in Qatar, we haven’t seen any other Classics form indicators.

by RollinRollinRolland on Feb 18, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

he can win...........

but there are so many other riders who could too, given the right conditions. I certainly see both Cancellara and Gilbert wanting this big time. however the list of contenders given early season form is too long to bother with.

Rafa's on peds

by Maratsafin on Feb 17, 2012 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Long time no see Marat. Hope all is well with you.

Of the non spinter classics gods, I’d put Boonen in that shakedown as well. I’ve my doubts about Gilbert as he hasn’t the sprinting power if it comes down to it.

No more regrets

by LSRDiesel on Feb 18, 2012 4:32 AM EST up reply actions  

+

all good with me mate………………just slower and older :( but still trying ;)

Rafa's on peds

by Maratsafin on Feb 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He's getting kinda, sorta decent at the classics

Made the front group in MSR last year, 4th in G-W, 3rd at Worlds. 21st at Roubaix and with the Cancellara group at the start of Camphin-en-Pevele. That last one actually caught my eye the most at the time.

Not Tommeke but not just a SSR and GT stage guy anymore either.

by Mr 60 Percent on Feb 17, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Yes he can..! Hope he does..!

He can because he had plenty of training bringing PG to the line all last year..! Now he can get there more relaxed… The other thing is will Lotto work for him to win? There is someone else in the team with better chances?

Strava...? We are going for the TOP 10 this year...! Are you going to be part of something great or not?

by pablo777 on Feb 17, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

The guys in Oman and Qatar are his 'guys'. They're also the early Classics men, so yes.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 17, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Griepel can win MSR, as Cav can.

Personally, I think that any attempted escape on the Poggio will be shut down by the sprinter’s teams, and it will come to a sprint finale. Too many factors (crashes, punctures, loss of form, mechanicals) to say who will be there at the shakedown.

I’d love to see Griepel win, but have a feeling that Boonen could well do it this year if his team works well and he positions himself right…

No more regrets

by LSRDiesel on Feb 18, 2012 4:30 AM EST reply actions  

You know as I see this comments something cross my mind...

Does anyone else imagines a TT duel between Cance and Tony Martin? All the way to the finish line??

Strava...? We are going for the TOP 10 this year...! Are you going to be part of something great or not?

by pablo777 on Feb 18, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Tony Martin is young and strong, but as yet, he lacks Cance's panache ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 18, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

and Martin's never ridden MSR

has anyone said he’s riding this year?

"I love the classics. They are real battles, real racing," he said. "Time trials are also good, but it’s not the same as the northern classics. That’s pure bike racing."
Fabian Cancellara

by jsallee00 on Feb 19, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

pablo did

I think that makes it gospel.

by JustJoshinYa on Feb 19, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Bringing pablo's dreams crashing down to earth is one reason

that this competition is not called Fantasy Cycling.
Another reason is that when ant1 is watching PFP it would become Fantasy, Cycling.

by straw dog on Feb 19, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we should take a Poll?

Who is more likely to win MSR -

  • Farrar
    or
  • Greipel

I’ll vote Greipel

What would Deming do? (+8:00 GMT)

by Ryan_Liles on Feb 20, 2012 5:17 AM EST reply actions  

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