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Why George's tour is so bad

There was an article in my local paper today about George Hincapie's trouble in the tour. I have looked and looked and I cannot find this article anywhere online, even on Lexus/Nexus. Doing google searches has turned up people in forums talking about how they think George looks too thin, but not the article. So for your reading pleasure, I have typed up the entirety of the article:

You can't be too fast, but you can be too thin

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Gannett News Service
   George Hincapie, the American rider who wore the Tour de France's yellow leader's jersey for one thrilling day early in this year's race and was seen as the successor to former teammate Lance Armstrong, is now more than 20 minutes behind the leader and essentially out of the race.
   Why? The team doctor says that he went too far in efforts to slim down for the mountain stages.
   `He's pretty tired," Rich Hincapie, the cyclist's brother and business partner, said by phone.
   "We talked to the team doctor, and he said that basically George came into the tour so skinny that his body doesn't have enough reserves to recover day to day. It was kind of a big gamble to lose as much weight as he did. After a while, you start burning muscle," he said.
   Many cyclists think they become better climbers if they drop some weight.
   Hincapie, who claimed the yellow jersey as overall leader on the second day of the tour, plummeted to 40th overall Thursday.
   He rebounded to place 39th Friday in a mountain stage won by Discovery teammate Yaraslov Popovych but remains 22 minutes and 59 seconds behind American Floyd Landis of the Phonak team, in yellow for a second day.
   Rich Hincapie said he arrived in Europe this week to find his six-foot-three brother looking "almost unhealthy skinny," he said, and estimated that his weight is close to 20 pounds below the 175 pounds listed on Hincapie's Discovery team bio sheet.
   "The doctor said (for George) to eat as much as he can. But the problem is that his stomach has gotten small, and he can only eat so much," Rich Hincapie said. "He gets full and feels full. And feeling full is not enough for the reserve tank for these long stages."

This makes a lot of sense to me. I always thought George was a much stronger rider than the way that he is currently performing. He's also a tour veteran, so shouldn't he know the correct way to prepare for the tour? Well, he knows how to prepare to support Lance, but not how to prepare to win. Probably no one knows how to prepare to win unless they've done it a couple times. George knew he had to perform better in the mountains to win, and a clear way to do that is to have less weight to haul up those climbs. Now that he knows he lost too much, I think next year (barring an accident or illness) he will be much better prepared. I still have faith in George Hincapie. So he lost too much weight. If everyone knew how to prepare perfectly for the tour, we wouldn't have this wide open race where anything can happen- instead we would have a bunch of uber-riders shadow boxing with each other all the time. I feel better having read this article. It would be nice if I could find that information somewhere else, but I promise you it really did appear in my newspaper. For the rest of the tour my Discovery GC aspirations will rest on Popo and Jose, and I will be awaiting the arrival of the new improved George next year.

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Is George too thin?
It's a legitimate explanation of his tour performance
409 votes
I still think he's just over-rated
23 votes
Only an idiot makes a training mistake like that
11 votes
I still believe he's going to bust out in the 3rd week!
7 votes

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Here's a link to Rich Hincapie's blog, where he alludes to the "I'm to skinny for my shirt, too skinny for my shirt" problem.

Rich Hincapie's blog (George's brother)

Interesting idea, and maybe an illustration of what happens when you try to make a climber out of a 6'3" classics rider.

Next year? I keep hoping George will skip the damn tour next year and concentrate wholly on the spring and fall classics. (And why not the World Championships?)

He's a monster rider and I wish him well, but he's never really shown us he can climb in anger with the top GC specialists.

by TCWriter on Jul 15, 2006 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On a related
topic of climbing like a mountain goat, here is something I was wondering about last night.

Why is there no Pro Tour Climbing Race/series?
They have the time trial, the road championships so why leave out what is arguably the most exciting portion of the sport?

My suggestion is that they have a three stage race. Each race held on the toughest mountain stage of each of the grand tours. They can be held at different times to fit the overall race schedule and to account for the travel issues. Each rider accumulates a time total and then the lowest total time from the three races is the Pro Tour King Of The Mountains. Seriously, it could be a huge promotional deal and the pure climbers would get their day in the sun. Without having to worry about GC aspirations and team tactics we would really get to see some fireworks on the greatest slopes in Europe. The use of the same stages as the Grand Tours could even be said to help with recon for the Tours themselves.

Let me know what you guys think.

by Clydesdale on Jul 15, 2006 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's brilliant
There should be some way to judge climbing skill unclutterd by team tactics and the quest for the GC.

Now all we need is for the race organizers to take orders from podium cafe ...

by ellie on Jul 15, 2006 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very intriguing!
When would you do it though? The passes aren't necessarily open in April or May, and June is tune-up time...

by Chris... on Jul 16, 2006 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Thinking
the 2nd or 3rd week in August. It would be after the Tour and before the Veulta by enough time to allow riders to not have a conflict. Most of the real climbers are not going to have much luck racing in the World's anyway so this would be perfect for them. It could be a Sunday / Wednesday / Saturday type of format with 2 days between each race for transit and recovery.

Imagine this:
Sunday Stage 1: Termeno/Tramin - Plan De Corones/Kronplatz, 133 km

Wednesday Stage 2: Andorra-Cerler, 186.6 km

Saturday Stage 3: Gap - L'Alpe-d'Huez, 187 km

The actual climbs and order of countries can alternate from year to year to include some other Climbs like the Stelvio and give each country the opportunity to showcase their own Tour by having the finale.

by Clydesdale on Jul 17, 2006 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've wondered why not include a mountain top
finish in the world championships.  If not every year at least every three or four of years instead of the road race, the way things are now climbers can't ever be of much value to any national team so they stay home.  At any rate it would be a great idea to have some kind of recognition for the best climbers.

by flying dog on Jul 16, 2006 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what an AWESOME idea!
You realize of course, that if they were to implement this, you would forever be known only as 'assassin.'

by angryjim on Jul 17, 2006 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too thin to win the tour?
By that logic I would be leading by several hours.  Acually,  When I saw him in the prologue, I thought, damn, he looks too skinny.  He'll be invisible by the Alps.

by Mr Van P on Jul 15, 2006 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link
Glad to see proof that Gannett News Service wasn't just making the article up (of course I didn't think so, but it seemed really odd when I couldnt' find anything anywhere else)

Interesting idea, and maybe an illustration of what happens when you try to make a climber out of a 6'3" classics rider.
I did notice that George seems pretty tall for a cyclist. Aren't most of the peleton between 5'7 and 5'11 or so?  The reason for short cyclists is probably the same as the reason for short horse jockies- the taller you are, the more weight you have to haul, no matter how skinny you get. And weighing 155 lbs at 6'3 seems pretty slim even if that weight is all muscle.

As to what happens next year, that probably depends on what Disco does about their team leader. If they get someone like Floyd, or Popo or Tom start shining, I could say George saying 'I've spent 7 years as a lieutenant, now I want to go win some races for myself' and then go to Classics.

by ellie on Jul 15, 2006 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly
Spring or Bust!

by Drew on Jul 17, 2006 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riis
Getting too skinny worked well for Bjarne Riis back in '96. The reality is that the number of watts/kilo needed for getting up over the top of the big climbs with the lead groups is well known for the pros, and he had to hit that number some how. I am sure he knows how many watts he can produce and most likely that is maxed out for him. All the training he can do at this point in his career can only change that a little. If he wanted to finish high or challenge in the Tour he probably had to get down to that weight. So he had no choice.

by Tim on Jul 15, 2006 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good point
about sustained watts and watts per kilo.

I'm not saying losing weight was a bad idea, it just looks like from his preformance that he took it a little too far. It's probably a very careful ballence you have to keep there ...

by ellie on Jul 15, 2006 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At some point...
You can't lose any more weight without also losing power output. And a cyclist can only lose so much weight so quickly without hurting his recovery potential (recovery from training)...

Sounds like George exceeded both those thresholds..

by TCWriter on Jul 16, 2006 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but if the weight loss was too sudden
it could leave him weak.  I recall Indurain used to show up around 180 lbs ever year and work down to about 172 or so by the end.  LeMond in his later tours would show up with a couple kilo's to burn as well.

by Mr Van P on Jul 15, 2006 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I forget where I read it
but Dave Zabriskie remarked about how skinny Hincapie looked when they arrived in France.  Having rode with him for a bit while on Postal, Zabriskie probably has a good idea of Hincapie's normal riding weight.  Plus, when another cyclist says that you're looking "really skinny," you know that's got to be some serious skinny...

by moxy on Jul 16, 2006 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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