Who is the Anonymous Postie?
Frankie Andreu and an unnamed ex-Postie admitted their EPO use to the New York Times. While most people are focusing on the larger implications of this news on the sport, I really just want to know who the second guy is. I know trying to "out" people is kind of impolite, but eh...
Anyway, here's the 1999 Postal TdF Roster, complete with odds and scouting report:
ARMSTRONG, Lance (USA). 0:1. With millions (and I mean millions) of dollars on the line, Lance isn't going to rat himself out. The Texan is so stubborn that even if he did take drugs way back when, he'd have no problem convincing himself now that he was clean all along.
ANDREU, Frankie (USA). 1:1. Good on you for coming clean. But the time to do it was in 1999.
DERAME, Pascal (FRA). 100:1. Would the Times be able to track down an old French cyclist? Or, conversely, would an old French cyclist be able to speak to the Times? I mean, this was all I could find on Derame - and it describes Tyler Hamilton as "not really [a] climber".
HAMILTON, Tyler (USA). 1,000,000,000:1. Tyler continues to swear on the grave of his dog that he would never endanger his wife's life by doping.
HINCAPIE, George (USA). 50:1. Though the anonymous rider has a "job in cycling", I have a hard time believing an active cyclist would confess, seeing as the always-progressive WADA punishes an unsolicited confession like a positive test. George has always been very close to Lance, around for all seven Tour wins, and pretty consistent with his peformances (his climbing improved through the years, but gradually).
LIVINGSTON, Kevin (USA). 3:1. Here's my favorite - former Lance friend, split for more money at Telekom, rattled oddly between pack fodder and top-flite mountain domestique, quit cycling after something of a burn out, but is still involved with the sport. Lance claimed to have squashed any beef between them over beers in It's Not About the Bike, but I think it's no coincedence Livingston's always in his Telekom kit in promotional photos.
MEINERT-NIELSEN, Peter (DEN). 75:1. Same problems here as Derame, though I knock Meinert-Nielsens odds down because he's continued to be involved in cycling. Also, as a Northern European, he's more likely to speak English, but I still don't see an NYT reporter being aware that he exists.
VANDEVELDE, Christian (USA). 25:1. Again, I think it's unlikely an active rider would confess, though CVV gets tighter odds for being a candid diarist. In a sport as tight-lipped and constricted as Lance Armstrong's War portrays, a willingness and a desire to share your life with other people certainly stands out. Though it's no guarantee of a willingness to confess, both admitted/reformed doper David Millar and Andreu himself kept diaries at some point.
VAUGHTERS, Jonathan (USA). 5:1. If there's anyone whose cycling job won't let him admit doping, it's JV. Vaughters also allegedly discussed doping regimens with Andreu on the internet, and as his presence at TIAA-CREF indicates, he's deeply invested in the future of the sport (a motivating factor for Andreu's admission). But JV has gone on record as saying he saw no dope evidence at Postal (though this bit hardly resounds with confidence), and at any rate, Vaughters' naturally-high hematocrit would severely limit his gains from EPO use.
So that's how I see it. Smart money's on the recent American retirees, while CVV's the Dark Horse. If your name's Homer Simpson and you're looking for a Merry Christmas, place your bets on the Euros, and if you own the track and are looking to launder some cash, Tyler Hamilton's the man for you.
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Re: Livingston
Still, he probably is more likely than JV to be the other source. After seeing Prentice Steffan and then Frankie get taken down by the Stapleton/Weisel junta, he knows that the price of running his team is his grave-like silence. Plus, he signed some statements disavowing the Andreu chat transcripts.
Scandal?!?
But is this really a scandal? OK, all drug use is bad (let's all repeat this), but not all of it really matters, does it? If the gregarios are using in order to stay in the race, I guess that artificially lowers the attrition rate (whereupon LeBlanc vows to throw in five more climbs next year). If that were all the drug use going on, I'd say it needs addressing. But right now guys are systematically doping in order to transform their careers. that's the problem.
Honestly, if it's as Frankie says (say?), and he dropped EPO a couple times to check it out... hell, if I were a clean rider in 1999, with no profile at all, I'd be tempted to try it a time or two just to see what the kool kids are experiencing. Though I certainly wouldn't gallop aaway for a 100km stage win that day...
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 12, 2006 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
Use whatever word you want
Remember stage 17 in the TdF this year, in which one of the Phonak riders (Miguel Angel Martin Perdiguero) blew up so badly after helping to set the pace for Landis to attack out of the peloton, that he just waited for the team car and quit the race right there? Wouldn't it be a big advantage for a team leader to have teammates who could put in a huge effort like that in the first two hours of a stage and, instead of dropping out of the race or back to the grupetto, still be strong as a bull and right there with the leaders on the final climb of the day?
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Sep 12, 2006 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 12, 2006 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right, it's not good for cycling
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Sep 12, 2006 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
My money is on...
:)
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Sep 12, 2006 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, say, AH
Lance's Statement re: Andreu NYT Article
http://www.thepaceline.com/members/lancenewsitem.aspx?cid=2706
re lance's statement
Interesting piece below linking in Floyd...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20060913-9999-1s13landis.html
by Zoetemelk on Sep 13, 2006 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
This is very interesting
OTOH, Swart is a carpenter in New Zealand, I don't think he has to worry about losing that job.
This [b]REALLY[/b] irks me
By all press accounts that I have read, the SCA arbitration hearing was decided on the wording of the contract: i.e., because the contractual language stipulated that Armstrong must be sanctioned by the UCI, that SCA must pay up. The judge didn't consider the evidence and testimony in reaching that decision, he ruled that whether Armstrong took PEDs or not was not pertinent, whether SCA fulfilled the terms of the contract was.
But the clarification about what testimony came from Frankie and what testimony came from Betsy is important. She said "It was for Lance" and she said it was for the 99 tour. Frankie just said that he took EPO.
Now, no one has proven that Armstrong took PEDs, he has beaten every attempt. But when he overstates his case so blatenly, he ruins what is left of his credibility.
Lance should take the advice he gave to Floyd
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Sep 13, 2006 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
OK but
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 13, 2006 2:21 PM EDT reply actions

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