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Milan-San Remo: Some Favorites

Update [2007-3-22 17:55:54 by chris]: This is reposted as our official who's-gonna-win (non-VDS version) open thread. Also there are some new items up, including the Pez list of contenders... but they don't pick a winner yet. buck-buck...brawwkkk! Oh, and scratch Bettini from your favorites, he's just planning to show up, if the pain from last week's crashes will allow even that.

Pez has a lovely 100-year retrospective on what it takes to win... and they're promising to name their favorite later today. As a multinational conglomerate, Pez has to navigate layers and layers of internal bureaucracy before it can reach consensus on a favorite, but here at the Podium Cafe, our slimmed-down management model means we can forge ahead. Or more to the point, I can forge ahead, and unless Pete and Drew shame me out of it, this will be the official site favorite (tm). Anyway, the following analysis presumes most of the favorites survive the Poggio; the potential of a breakaway winner would make just about everyone a favorite.

Continued on the flip; or hit comments to tell us your winner.

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Past Winners

There are only a handful of former winners on hand: Erik Zabel, Oscar Freire, Paolo Bettini, Alessandro Petacchi, and Filippo Pozzato. All are viable candidates, and at least Freire, Petacchi and Pozzato are likely leaders on their teams, as well as serious threats. Zabel will likely set up Petacchi, while Bettini is hurting, and probably gearing up for Flanders, where he won't draw all 25 teams' attention.

Other Top-Tier Candidates

Luca Paolini may in fact have Pozzato working for him, at least in a field sprint. He's been third on two occasions, including last year. Tom Boonen would be an obvious favorite but has been having back issues, and starting Saturday will be confronting the intersquad conflict that's been hanging over Quick Step's head since Bettini won the Worlds. Thor Hushovd has a podium in 2005, and has all the tools to win a sprint for a monument. Daniele Bennati has been on good form (despite stopping Saturday in Paris-Nice), and was even seen active in the climbs, making him a top sprinter who can be expected to survive the Poggio. Robbie McEwen has two problems: the length and the final climbs... but nobody will want to see him on their wheel in the last km if he gets that far. Stuart O'Grady almost got second-tier status, but he's been great lately and has a 3rd and 4th in the last three years.

Second-Tier Candidates

Except where past top 10 finishes are noted, these hunches are based on current good form: Stefano Garzelli (7th twice); Nick Nuyens; Allen Davis and Yaroslav Popovych; Koldo Fernandez; Philippe Gilbert (6th in '05); Stef Schumacher; Alessandro Ballan (9th in '06), Danilo Napolitano (5th in '06); Leif Hoste; Juan Antonio Flecha Gianonni; Riccardo Ricco; Igor Astarloa (6th in '04), Mirko Celestino (2nd in '03); Mikhael Ignatiev; Eisel/Ciolek/Klier/Gerdemann; Baden Cooke, and Jimmy Casper. Teams with no apparent hope (prove me wrong!): AG2R, Astana, Caisse d'Epargne, Barloworld, Ceramica Panaria, and LPR.

And the Winner Is:

Oscar Freire! Oscarita makes sense for a handful of reasons...

  • History: one win, six top ten finishes in seven years, or every time he's started.
  • Form: In February he was going strong with three wins and the overall at Andalucia. He also took a respectable second in the first Tirreno-Adriatico sprint stage, and stayed with the climbers on stage 2 before easing back into the field. Quite simply, Freire is a field sprinter who can survive the long, undulating ride like a classics rider. It's no accident he's always there.
  • Team: Rabobank are off to a fabulous start so far this year, though in minor races. But Freire will enjoy great support from the likes of Flecha, Max Van Heeswijk and Leon Van Bon. All the pieces are in place.

And yours? I know it's only Wednesday, but let the debate begin.

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Good preview...
We have to keep TinTin in mind, after a strong Paris-Nice.  He can certainly get over the hills but will need to be well away or with Garzelli or Paolini to prevail.

I'd have to say that Ballan is in a similar situation, needing a teammate to work with on the descent of the Poggio to stay away from the sprint teams...  If he takes Bennati with him, then he could stick a sprint.

That said, it's hard to bet against Oscarito.  He's one of my all time favorites and can for sure get over the climbs a deliver a devastating sprint.  As chri points out, hes been close many times and only won once... and we all know how he likes repeats.

"It never gets easier, you just goat faster." -- Greg LeMond

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 21, 2007 8:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Why is a small break away so rare?
The attempt to get over the poggio is always a thrill, but it almost always ends in futility. I can't recall a small break powering away together over the Poggio.
-K-

by KevinK on Mar 21, 2007 10:14 PM EDT   0 recs

What about last year?
Pozzatto covered Ballan's attack on the Poggio, got joined by about five others, and won on a counterattack to Nocentini. It seems like a bunch sprint, because the pack came within about 10 meters of catching him, but in reality, he left them on the Poggio and they never quite caught him. Pippo would never have won if they'd made contact again.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 23, 2007 12:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that's true
I recall the big bunch closing in, but yes, they were ahead on the Poggio.

Were they working together? I think it was every man for himself. I recall Schleck going uphill so fast he overshot a corner on the ascent!

-K-

by KevinK on Mar 23, 2007 1:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

liqi
pozzato working for paolini...ok maybe, i see both covered with the third liqi making it stick with pellizotti.

by sls13 on Mar 21, 2007 10:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Whoa...
can the big boys be that generous? As with most things in this race, can't rule it out.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 22, 2007 2:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bettini?
If he can stay on his bike, you have to like The Cricket. He's won before and you know he'll be super motivated to win on the Via Roma wearing the rainbow jersey. As for team in-fighting, Boonen was clearly delighted with Pippo last year so I think that won't rear its ugly head Saturday. Personally, I'll be pulling for Schleck to make good on what looked so promising last year.
Portadores del Agua: Hardest of the hard men

by Jiggs on Mar 21, 2007 11:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Petacchi...
You heard it here first.  
Vlaenderen die Leu

by Mr Van P on Mar 22, 2007 6:50 AM EDT   0 recs

Problem remains the same
year after year. The route just isn't selective enough to get a decisive break going.
There was talk about adding another climb two years ago. When Petacchi said that he wouldn't ride the race if the route would be changed, suddenly it remained a "plan". It still is.
Maybe when the 100th race is held, two years from now, they'll change it.

As it is, it's anyone's race to win, but Freire's holding four aces and going all in. ;-)

by DZI on Mar 22, 2007 6:57 AM EDT   0 recs

Rooting for my man
Mori though, since i'm the only one with him on the VDS team. Yet, a better fav. than Hoste f.i. who won't stand any chance, contrary to the "second-tier" prediction. Very nice breakdown, though.

by DZI on Mar 22, 2007 7:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

An in-form Freire
has to be the favorite. Who is better in a sprint after 300k?

In the lead-in stage races, neither have had their usual number of sprint finishes. I'm not sure if this means that the Milram and QSI trains aren't up to the task, or if Protour points are so valuable that teams without a Boonen, Bennati, Petacchi, or Freire are going all out to disrupt the trains.

Anyway, I predict that there will be a sprint finish won by Freire, with Boonen and Petacchi on the podium. For a spoiler, I think that Steegmans can play Pozzato's role and work with Bettini and Boonen to re-create last year's finish. Except everyone has seen that ending already.

What I'd absolutely love to see is Ete the Evergreen finding a way to get another win on the Via Roma, but I'm pretty sure he'll be setting up the Ale-Jet for the sprint.

Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Mar 22, 2007 10:34 AM EDT   0 recs

Velo-club
is reporting that Steegmans is not on the QSI roster for MSR. So apparently he won't be filling Pippo's role as spoiler this year.
Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Mar 22, 2007 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

To heck with the VDS, I'm pulling for Stuey!
He's had some strong 2nds this year and he's my sentimental favorite.  
"Sometimes you gotta give luck a swift kick in the balls." -Jens Voigt, Philosopher.

by Ruthann on Mar 22, 2007 12:51 PM EDT   0 recs

I would like to see that
but I don't know if it can happen--maybe if Frank Schleck gets away in the final kilometers and Stuey launches a massive counter attack at the 1 km mark.

Any of the pursuiter guys could pull a coup--Stuey, or JAF, or even Millar.

But it's hard for anyone to escape, since the finish is so fast.

-K-

by KevinK on Mar 22, 2007 1:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know, isn't it GREAT?! :-)
I may be showing my age, but I've been humming "An-ti-ci-pa-tion" all day!
"Sometimes you gotta give luck a swift kick in the balls." -Jens Voigt, Philosopher.

by Ruthann on Mar 22, 2007 1:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Good God - Carly Simon?
You're showing your age kiddo ;-)
"Go ahead, make your jokes, Mr. Jokey... Joke-maker"

by Drew on Mar 22, 2007 1:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Yah
way past me on that one.  

by Hons on Mar 22, 2007 2:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, OK, I went to high school in the 70's,
but I was still Cool.  Led Zepp cool.  Steely Dan cool.  Who cool.  Pink Floyd cool.  Accident of birth, guys, give me a break! I'm a cycling fan, what more proof do you need?
"Sometimes you gotta give luck a swift kick in the balls." -Jens Voigt, Philosopher.

by Ruthann on Mar 22, 2007 5:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey
Steely Dan is still cool. And those bastards who didn't go to school during the 70s missed Disco Prom Night and leisure suits.

So they couldn't possible be well rounded human beings. Couldn't.

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We're not one of the other VDS teams

by TCWriter on Mar 22, 2007 8:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Procol Harum
Slow dancing with nervous, gangly boys to "Whiter Shade of Pale" at the VFW on Friday night.  I guess this makes me a very well rounded human being.
The Fighting Cocks: will not torment the emotionally frail. All others fair game.

by bethie on Mar 23, 2007 11:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

now i understand
where the name of your vds team comes from...
"It never gets easier, you just goat faster." -- Greg LeMond

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 23, 2007 12:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Phat Arses - On my signal, unleash Hell!

by notaero on Mar 23, 2007 1:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

'76 Grad here ...
Steely, Zepplin, and John "Freakin" Denver all on the same 8-track tape. But, even then, I had a killer 10-speed. Highly modified and ready to race all 90-100cc dirt bikes at a moment's notice.

Ahhh ...

Phat Arses - On my signal, unleash Hell!

by notaero on Mar 23, 2007 1:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is full disclosure time?
I'm proud of my early association (1981) with rap... but I can't deny the REO Speedwagon records that were also in my possession.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 23, 2007 1:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I never doubted my coolness
I was listening to Jeff Beck in 6th grade. If it wasn't for him Jan Hammer never would have gotten his gig on Miami Vice.
"I don't know too many monkeys who could take apart a fuel injector."

by Drew on Mar 23, 2007 2:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah hah ...
Me too. Wasn't Rod Stewart the vocalist for Jeff Beck Group?
Phat Arses - On my signal, unleash Hell!

by notaero on Mar 23, 2007 3:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

REO Still Alive and well ...
Heard Kevin Cronin on Bob & Tom this morning -- they played a couple of songs. Still (reasonably) cool.
Phat Arses - On my signal, unleash Hell!

by notaero on Mar 23, 2007 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As soon as you are able
And I am a-weeeeeelin...

Oy, this has to stop.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 23, 2007 4:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No no no . . .
the winner of the 07 MSR will be Haselbacher

by R Mc on Mar 22, 2007 3:35 PM EDT   0 recs

You didn't get the memo?
Graeme Brown is the new Rene Hasslebacher. ;-)
Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Mar 22, 2007 5:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't think so
Um Brown wins races, hasselbacher just crashes and blames it on other people...

by blueyedfisch on Mar 22, 2007 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't know what to do
I'd have to stop blogging for at least a week to recover.

McEwen would probably hang himself :-)

"I don't know too many monkeys who could take apart a fuel injector."

by Drew on Mar 22, 2007 3:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Link to the CSC Team article about the MSR
team:
http://team-csc.com/races.asp?lang=uk&r_id=1018
They're starting O'Grady and then F.Schleck as the leaders, supported by Breschel, Tony Cancellara, Haedo, Kroon, Ljungqvist, and Roberts.
"Sometimes you gotta give luck a swift kick in the balls." -Jens Voigt, Philosopher.

by Ruthann on Mar 22, 2007 5:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Schleck...
I'm a bit self-interested here (VDS), but it would be interesting to see an Ardennes guy win M-SR. He'd really be establishing himself as a versatile rider.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 22, 2007 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've got to say that Milram is loaded for bear
Now that QSI isn't bringing Steegmans, I think Milram, with Ete (4 wins), Petacchi (1 win), Celestino (2nd 2004, 6th 97), Astarloa (6th 2004) may be the most loaded team. They've got two ex-champs, two danger men for the Cipressa/Poggio moves and 4 other for the train.
Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Mar 22, 2007 7:05 PM EDT   0 recs

OK
But can they not place all their efforts into an unwieldy lead-out train? I mean, they have the horses as you point out, but they can't run the same play every single time and keep expecting it to work. This isn't a flat, short Giro stage.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 22, 2007 7:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My pick...
Kuiper won in '85; I'm picking him to repeat.

On the off chance Hennie doesn't make it, I'm going with Bettini (DiLuca's sick). Sure, he's been hurt, but I need points, and positive mental imaging is all that's left to me.

Still Astarloa has a shot; he takes off at the base of Poggio to remove the pressure on Zabel/Petacchi, and stays away after no one chases.

Simple.

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We're not one of the other VDS teams

by TCWriter on Mar 22, 2007 8:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Bad news for Bettini
"The tests revealed a fracture of his 4th left rib and a lesion of his left pectoral muscle" However he states that "my condition is good enough that I can still play a role".  What role that will be we will see on Saturday.  

He then entered himself into the cyclist-as-philosopher competition, mostly to keep Jens on his toes, with the following:

"The pain of a fall is nothing compared to death"

...wow...

[yes, that was taken out of context...but still]

by Hons on Mar 22, 2007 10:50 PM EDT   0 recs

how would he know?
I'm guessing he's comparing aches to the great sadness he feels about losing Sauro. But it comes across more metaphysical than that.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 23, 2007 12:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My guess too...
Translations always make Italians sound melancholy.

Of course, this news means that my best chance for VDS points this race really is Kuiper...

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We're not one of the other VDS teams

by TCWriter on Mar 23, 2007 1:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course
since he's Italian, he really may have been speaking metaphysically, for no particular reason.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris... on Mar 23, 2007 2:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He was in fact
referring to his brother.  But CN quoted it like that and I thought it was rather insightful.  

by Hons on Mar 23, 2007 6:47 AM EDT   0 recs

And Cippo says........
(courtesy of CN)

Ex-sprint god, Mario Cipollini, celebrated his fortieth birthday yesterday and had the opportunity voice to his opinion on this Saturday's Italian one-day Classic, Milan - San Remo. The 2002 winner and former World Champion is leaning towards his fellow Tuscan but thinks the race will be unusual.

"I am expecting an atypical Sanremo because in the first races of the season there has not been a true dominator," said Cipollini, who retired in 2005 and used to control the sprints with an iron fist. Paolo "Bettini, with the crash in Tirreno-Adriatico, will be an unknown. For [Alessandro] Petacchi something is not quite functioning. [Tom] Boonen did not win at Paris-Nice and then he retired. ... [Daniele] Bennati is the only one that has a little something more than the others."

Cipollini finished by giving a nod to Oscar Freire. "When he is going well he has another leg."

"I don't know too many monkeys who could take apart a fuel injector."

by Drew on Mar 23, 2007 8:52 AM EDT   0 recs

Hmm
those kits don't leave much to the imagination...where does he keep it?

by Hons on Mar 23, 2007 9:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cippo was so close.
   Bennati has got to be the man.  He has got to back up his talk.  He is on a mission and winning this race will make that statement for him and he knows it.
The S. Obedient Flying Dog Boy

by flying dog on Mar 23, 2007 2:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

BOONEN
Back problem or no, QS looks pretty good so far this season and they have the practice with the leadout train. Boonen has the horsepower, and the endurance to force the issue.
-K-

by KevinK on Mar 23, 2007 2:04 PM EDT   0 recs

How come
nobody is betting on Thor?
The Fighting Cocks: will not torment the emotionally frail. All others fair game.

by bethie on Mar 23, 2007 3:52 PM EDT   0 recs

How come I'm always the last to know?
My people are not doing their job. ;-)
The Fighting Cocks: will not torment the emotionally frail. All others fair game.

by bethie on Mar 23, 2007 4:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nodoby seems to know
what his condition is. I haven't read anything about him in a bit.
"I don't know too many monkeys who could take apart a fuel injector."

by Drew on Mar 23, 2007 4:07 PM EDT   0 recs

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