Breaking: Valverde, Basso Both Linked to Fuentes?
Alejandro Valverde may be Cycling's next major star to fall into the pit of Operacion Puerto suspicion. Via CN, as the Italian newspaper La Gazzetta dello Sport delves deeper into Ivan Basso's case, they are claiming to have uncovered evidence that both Basso and Valverde were among the sources of the 99 blood bags found with Fuentes, and in Valverde's case traces of EPO were found. In Basso's case, no trace of EPO was discovered, but transfusions of blood are themselves a violation of the sport's rules.
Obviously Valverde has been suggested before as someone of interest to the investigation, based on the cryptic mention of Valv:Piti in Fuentes' notes, corresponding to Valverde and his dog. Whether La Gazzetta's efforts convert Valverde from a guy with a cloud over him to a full-on OP persona non-grata remains to be seen. But this week, expect the issue to progress rapidly and for ASO to start putting pressure on Caisse d'Epargne to keep Valverde out of the Tour. This is huge.
Update [2007-5-7 9:30:52 by chris]: After sleeping on it, it occurs to me that this all shows how horribly stupid ASO are. To repeat one of my winter rants, you can't use "under suspicion" as a legal standard. Due process exists because there isn't any workable alternative. So now a newspaper has placed Valverde (back) under suspicion. Is he out? What if the Podium Cafe says we don't like the looks of that Pereiro guy... is he out? Or does Dick Pound have to pronounce you guilty in an interview first?
In America and presumably a few other civilized nations, if they can't get nine or so people locked in a secret room to agree you should be hauled into court, then they have to leave you alone. For any sort of skilled prosecutor armed with a modicum of evidence, that's not a lot of process... but at least it's something we can get our minds around. At the Tour, "under suspicion" is going to be whatever Christian Prudhomme says it is, and it's a short, slippery ride from a newspaper investigation to "let's throw out all the furriners". But then, as Les Woodland reports in CN, being an asshole has long been part of Le Tour's director's job description.
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Not much news
by Jens on
May 7, 2007 3:52 AM EDT
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Already knew all of this
by BDBrian on
May 7, 2007 6:14 AM EDT
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Aargh, I took him at face value
by Tiki on
May 7, 2007 7:15 AM EDT
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welcome to the club
by ELVISGOAT on
May 7, 2007 7:30 AM EDT
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I wish I were as slim as Vino's chances
It really will be interesting to see how the ASO/UCI, etc... work this all out. I hope Moreau is putting some extra training miles in right now.
by KevinK on
May 7, 2007 7:59 AM EDT
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Bah
by Chris... on
May 7, 2007 9:16 AM EDT
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Unless Dessel can win the Prologue
Each of the French riders will have a personal motorbike, and at least two helicopters to cover them suffering nobly on the climbs.
I recommend professional tooth whitening, buying very heavy gold chains, and using mascara on the chest hair (unless it rains) to get the most out of the camera time.
by KevinK on
May 7, 2007 10:01 AM EDT
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Joke of the day
A: The Peloton
by bethie on
May 7, 2007 9:21 AM EDT
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OK, I just
by Chris... on
May 7, 2007 9:35 AM EDT
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OH, and BTW
by Chris... on
May 7, 2007 9:36 AM EDT
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This gets tiring
by ghisallo on
May 7, 2007 9:43 AM EDT
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That'd be more like it
by Chris... on
May 7, 2007 9:46 AM EDT
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Was'nt that me
by Brandontw9 on
May 7, 2007 10:31 AM EDT
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A point of order
I did not concur with your analysis that civil rights had been abridged, I fully agree that riders have civil rights.
by Koppenberg on
May 7, 2007 11:11 AM EDT
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Civil Discourse
by John.. on
May 7, 2007 5:10 PM EDT
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Far be it from me to stop you bashing the french
I am far more angry and disgusted with the actions of the media and police in leaking only certain names that I am with the ASO or Dick Pound at this point. ASO is fighting to keep their Tour in business and granted they are taking a short-term view of it, but what else can they do? They cannot afford to have another winner turn off positive after the fact - the german media has already said that they won't pay for tv, and you can bet other media would start pulling out in droves if it happened again. It is all about money.
by lyne on
May 7, 2007 10:49 AM EDT
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Uhh . Brandon and everyone .
Italian cycling star Ivan Basso admitted to the anti-doping prosecutor of the Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) on Monday that he was involved in the Operación Puerto blood doping scandal.
by R Mc on
May 7, 2007 10:52 AM EDT
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Yay!!!
by KevinK on
May 7, 2007 11:07 AM EDT
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Now the rush to admit it will start...
by KevinK on
May 7, 2007 11:09 AM EDT
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Separate post/thread
by Chris... on
May 7, 2007 11:10 AM EDT
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I see nothing new
I mean, I fully believe that he is Valv. (piti) and number eighteen, but unlike Basso, who had phone taps directly linking him w/ Birrillo ("Birillo finished 17 seconds behind Simoni today") and unlike Sevilla who was filmed entering Fuentes' gynecology office when he swore he didn't, there isn't any actual evidence, i.e., documents, phone taps, film that connect Valverde to Valv. other than speculation.
I really hope they test his DNA against the samples, but I can understand why he isn't on the official list yet. I fully believe that the evidence exists, but in order to get a search warrant or subpoena information, you have to have knowledge of what you are looking for. Fishing expeditions are not kosher.
So my hope is that there are links to Valverde in the documents, or that all riders will be DNA tested against the Fuentes' blood. But if Valverde does escape the DNA net, it will be because his civil rights are being respected.
It is one thing to ask that actual evidence be ignored in the name of civil rights. I think that's desperate hooey on the part of defense teams. It is quite another to ignore due process because we know the evidence will be there if we bend the rules. That is bad police work.
by Koppenberg on
May 7, 2007 11:18 AM EDT
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Value added?
by Chris... on
May 7, 2007 11:45 AM EDT
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Oops
With that in mind, I want to highlight the difference between being suspended with pay and being officially banned. Cops that discharge their weapon are suspended with pay until the circumstances are investigated. Teachers are suspended with pay when facing allegations of improper action with students. It is a different thing than being officially sentenced by an authority.
Not being invited to participate in an event is [i]not equivelent to being found guilty. The cycling business is the advertising business, and if they offer reduced value to the sponsors, they are worth less to the business. It may be unfair, but it isn't illegal that fat (actually only moderately underweight) models can't find work. Actor lose gigs due to off-screen rumors. Riders who are under official investigation may be held out of competition.
Now, if rumors led to teams not paying riders (Unibet and Quesada, for example) THAT is unfair and unjust. If riders are banned or have their licenses revoked without due process, that would be unfair or unjust. But if a rider is under investigation (say they were wire-tapped buying EPO), then the races are within their rights to ask the investigation be closed before the riders return to competition.
In Basso, Ullrich, Sevilla and other's cases, there was legitimate evidence linking them with sports doping. Holding them out of the TdF was a legitmate act by the ASO. The ASO is not an anti-doping agency. They have no resources or authority there. They are a business that sells advertising, and they are allowed to take action that protects their bottom line.
by Koppenberg on
May 7, 2007 11:46 AM EDT
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