Le Tour '07: Stage 6 Live!
Today's romp to Bourg en Bresse will be a last chance for the sprinters for about five days. There are also a couple categorized climbs, which means the stage will be difficult enough to dissuade some teams from chasing down the inevitable break. Look for CSC to stop working and let the jersey go if the right people are up the road. However, the chances of a bunch sprint just got better today, now that some six different teams have a sprinter in contention for the green jersey. And four of those teams, Milram, Quick Step, Credit Ag, and Barloworld, have no incentive to sit back and watch. Add in Rabo and Lotto and you have teams which will all have a nose for the stage win today.
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Piano today?
Wiggins!
by Mark @ Podium Cafe on Jul 13, 2007 7:53 AM EDT reply actions
maybe he has an appointment
Good morning, all. From CN:
may I say this?
by ghisallo on Jul 13, 2007 8:52 AM EDT reply actions
I htink
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
wiggins out to 16:00 min plus
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt
Boonen took the first sprint
by ghisallo on Jul 13, 2007 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
Gap 16:13, 122.4k to go, 76mi
I read that too,
CN Ticker says that Noval
Yes.
Frank Schleck
Years ago, on the Pace Bend course west of Austin, we watched as my Dutch room-mate rolled past the feed-zone behind the p12 bunch spewing Dutch curses--he'd flatted.
We were amazed the next lap when he spun through at the front of the bunch. He finished in the top 10 only to be dq'd--he'd motor-paced behind a follow van for that entire lap. We had to spend most of the drive from Austin to College Station explaining that such help wasn't allowed in US racing.
(thick accent): "Well . . . I think that's FF****cked"
Classic!
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think in Europe it's ok to draft a bit
Here, on the other hand... remember Hincapie being DQ'd at the 1997 USPRO championship road race for drafting his team car?
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Jul 13, 2007 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Drafting off your team car is one thing but
How can they not have at least given him a token penalty?
Guilt, plain and simple
Result: carnage!
Are cattle plows against the rules?
by ghisallo on Jul 13, 2007 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
No way they are going to DQ
110k to go/88.5 mi, gap 11:48
Another nugget from CN this morning,
Saw that
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Robbie Hunter's lead out man,
At least people are
According to CN, Vino only has deep cuts and contusions, no mention of anything being sutured. Can anyone confirm that he got sewn up?
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
I saw them interview
On a side note, I'm also keeping track of the stage on the Yahoo UK sports livetrack. They've put up a couple of quotes from the Astana general manager. According to Yahoo UK, '196km - Astana manager Marc Biver when questioned whether he still held hopes of his team winning the Tour: ""I don't think so," he told reporters. "Let's be realistic. Kloeden is not in the best conditions to ride. Nobody can say if they are in a position to finish the Tour, let alone the stage. It does not augur well. That's life, that's sport. There are moments of glory, moments of defeat. We've been struck by fate. Today we hope for better news."'
Also, according to Yahoo UK (also from the livetrack), '96km - Astana general manager Marc Biver: "Klöden has suffered more in terms of his confidence, while Vino has suffered more physically. Andreas was already stung by criticisms in the German press. The fall has certainly not helped him. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't finish the Tour. If there are significant time losses in the Alps then we will probably rethink our strategy."'
Man, way to motivate your team there, Marc. I hope for the riders' sake that this is an attempt to downplay expectations so that maybe other teams don't take them as seriously. If so, I don't know that it would work. If it's not such an attempt, I'd have to think I'd find it very demoralizing if my team manager was saying such things...
Thought the same thing
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Interview with JB
I though the most intersting thing
That didn't sound like an "all for one" approach.
"Oh peas and rice, they did it again!"
i knew that was gonna happen
If Levi had spoken to Landis
Bruyneel threw Levi under the bus about ten minutes after the prologue ended. Now he's just putting the bus in reverse to back over him again.
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Jul 13, 2007 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He'd better keep quiet about it
oof
Levi seems to have a knack for turning his teams and DS's against him, or at least losing their confidence. I thought it was just a Gerol thing, but now I'm not so sure.
Sucks to be him, though. The Tour's a long race to have the DS throwing you under the bus on day one.
The bus has gone back and forth
Hire Basso: forward (thump)
Fire Birillo: then reverse (thump)
Contador Wins Paris Nice, two leaders at TdF: forward (thump)
Explanation from Ullrich
Klodi
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
If he gets through today
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
Sunday is a key stage
Can someone point me to a site
I'd like to find one
Thanks to Wim van Rossum who maintains an excellent site!!!
Of note is a change in the mountains points from the scale I posted before and now. HC climbs are worth 20 points (not 40) but the mountaintop finishes have double points.
That'll work, thanks.
How is Vino Holding Up?
Tony's ride
"There are two bikes you can build: the lightest or the fastest ... the first would win the 'let's hold our bikes over our head' contest, the second would win the bike race. "
Haven't seen Vino in a while, Last time
But it doesn't qualify as a full Bjarne
by socal @ Podium Cafe on Jul 13, 2007 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The Full Bjarne
Apparently, a few journalists this morning
Love it
Was watching Overcoming while riding the trainer last night (news in itself), and I can appreciate their concerns. There was an episode in that Tour where Jens! (I am now writing his name with ! after it) was on yet another long break, but slowed when Ullrich attacked Lance and Basso. Jens! waited while Ullrich went by, then towed the Lance/Basso group up to catch his countryman. Everyone was pissed... like Jens! was supposed to work for T-Mobile? Or CSC was supposed to let Ullrich go and not worry about Ivan's podium place?
The point is, journos over there just make shit up about on-road strategy.
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Jens!
'Unless, of course, you have the amazing mentality of a person like Jens who yells at himself, something like "I am the great Jens-freakin'-Voigt! These poofters on X team can't break you! They are nothing!" '
What was the 'news'
:-)
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
the latter
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember that! The German media was
Watching that stage
Virtually every rider and DS
Freaking journalist's...can't they take a page out of the reporting book that goes on here at the PC?
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
No kidding
Pretty obvious it was race on at that point. No waiting possible, there. Too bad for Vino.
No waiting possible
but I'll eat my saddle if the leaders teams didn't have extra motivation knowing Vino was chasing back on. They were going full gas before Vino crashed, but everyone should remember what Postal did to the climbers teams on the cobbles in 2004 or when Zulle went down in 1999. When a leader is in trouble in the early stages, that blood in the water to the other sharks.
It's like what Bill Walton said about NBA players wearing tape on their joints. "That just shows you where to hit them." Its the nature of competition.
I'd agree, except...
Only a minute anyway
The chase was certainly less significant than bouncing off the road, or (potentially) losing Kloden.
From the Team CSC Newsletter email:
[13.07 12:11] Team CSC has extended the contract with the only Norwegian rider in the team, Kurt-Asle Arvesen, for another two years, which will keep him on the team at least untill the end of 2009.
Anyone
They should replace the feed
explanation on cyclingfans
We have some information on what's up with the Versus live video streaming, direct from Versus lawyer, Carla. Carla says that Versus is not permitted to publicly stream the Tour de France. (Though she didn't elaborate, presumably that means they didn't purchase online broadcast rights; television and internet rights tend to be sold separately. Note that in some European markets, internet rights to the Tour de France have been sold and in other markets they remain unsold.) So the scenario whereby Amaury Sport Organization (A.S.O.), who appear in our site logs since Monday (hi Jean-François!), put pressure on Versus seems likely.
Ha!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm using NOS
Does anybody know what language it is?
I'm not always the best at figuring it out.
Nice feed though, no freezing and no commercials.
Sorry no tips
Thanks for the language info.
According to the CN live ticker
<2 minute gap, 31 km to go.
NOS live video
link is at http://www.cyclingfans.com/
Break out the salbutamol!!
From the Eurosport commentary
Right
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Jersey Museum
I can see them opening a museum of doping to 'bring awarenesses of the great damage that doping has done to our wonderful sport'. It will have all the reclaimed jerseys (except from the French riders) and feature gloomy music and shadowy lighting.
22.7 mph
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
Hm
Green Jersey power poll due out this afternoon! Like, at lunch.
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
In fairness
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
And as I type
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
Anyone know
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
CN
So
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
T-Mob up there as well
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
The catch
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
buffer = 30 sec.
seems to help with the NOS stream...or it could be coincidence.
Chris, you probably could sit on today, but it'd do you no good tomorrow. :)
by ghisallo on Jul 13, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
Right
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
VS-speak
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
They're letting Wiggins sit out there
What did Vino mean by that gesture?
by ghisallo on Jul 13, 2007 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
6km
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
T-Mob
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Milram and QS
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Freire is my call
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
3km now!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
QS hit the gas
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
2km
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
Zabel 3rd wheel
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Gerolsteiner and Rabo moving
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
last km
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Flecha on the front
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Here we go
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Freire 2nd
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
Boonen strongest!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
Thor will SMASH another day
by ghisallo on Jul 13, 2007 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Based on the top 10
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 5
Freire
Zabel
Chav
Hushovd
McEwen?
Bennati?
Hunter
Feillu
Fishcer
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Top 10
1 Tom Boonen (Bel) Quickstep-Innergetic
2 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank
3 Erik Zabel (Ger) Milram
4 Sébastien Chavanel (Fra) Française Des Jeux
5 Thor Hushovd (Nor) Crédit Agricole
6 Daniele Bennati (Ita) Lampre-Fondital
7 Robert Förster (Ger) Gerolsteiner
8 Robert Hunter (RSA) Barloworld
9 Romain Feillu (Fra) Agritubel
10 Murilo Fischer (Bra) Liquigas
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Top ten from TdF site
- BOONEN Tom
- FREIRE Oscar
- ZABEL Erik
- CHAVANEL Sébastien
- HUSHOVD Thor
- BENNATI Daniele
- FÖRSTER Robert
- HUNTER Robert
- FEILLU Romain
- FISCHER Murilo Antoniobil
I love the continuity
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
Poor t-mob
So McEwen wasn't in the top 10 again?
What an unpleasant
by Drew on Jul 13, 2007 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Good god!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, right
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

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