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Le Tour '07: Stage 15 Live!

Welcome to the Road to Lauron, second in a three part series How the Tour Was Won (or Not) In the Pyrenees. Actually, Versus has omitted this stage from its Not-to-Miss list, so you can feel free to go get some errands done or something.

Of course, I'd been poo-poo'ing this stage a bit too, based solely on the stats: two cat-2 climbs, two cat-1 climbs, one h.c. climb (the Port de Balès, 35km from the line), and a downhill finish. But as usual, the riders make the race, not the course, and reading the commentary I'm getting the idea that today might be a very interesting day indeed. Most likely animators: Discovery Channel, who hope to keep landing combinations on the Chicken's body until he crumples. He might never, but hey, kudos to Bruyneel and co. if they give it a whirl. Rasmussen doesn't look like he's going to eliminate himself anytime soon.

So let's review... Things I said earlier in the Tour:

  • Bruyneel is nuts
  • the Chicken sucks
  • this stage will be a snore

What does it all mean? Set your VCRs for Monday morning.

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Klodi
I'm sitting here wondering about the #1 Undisputed Fearless Leader of Astana For All Time (The UFLAFAT) Andreas Kloden.
  •  How bad was The UFLAFAT Kloden hurt in his TT fall?  Can he heal up in time?
  •  Will Astana really, honestly, completely, madly, with no reservations actually support their favorite German, the UFLAFAT?  Or will they continue their contemplation of Vino's navel?
If he's healed and has a team behind him that could throw a big twist in tomorrow's race.

by ursula on Jul 23, 2007 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Klodi reminded me
of Jan a little yesterday in some of his mountain battles with Lance.  He couldn't keep up with all the attacks, but settled in nicely and finished with Evans (who may still be his chief rival at this point).  He's only 4:38 down and he seems like the one guy left that can make it all up in the TT.
Vlaenderen die Leu

by Peter Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Early break contaiting
Hincappie, Vino, Kirchen, Arveson, Zubeldia, Vande Velde and about 18 others with a 4 minute advantage.  Interesting..
Vlaenderen die Leu

by Peter Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 6:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Good morning over there!
I'm actually not at work today so I get to watch a stage live. Hooray! The place where I'm at is cursed with 17:th century technology (tv and computer in seperate rooms) so I can't follow the PC commentary. Take a look at the description of todays HC climb in the livecommentary on CN. Sound like the placce to do some damage today. Menchov up the road as well today, Its going to be epic.

by Jens on Jul 23, 2007 7:24 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe CSC will do something
with VdV up there in the break. If Jens and Cance pulled Carlos over to the break, the rest of the field would have a hard time responding. I'm not sure they are crazy enough to try it, though.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 7:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Good morning, all. 113k to go, per CN:
Michael Albasini (Liquigas), Benoît Vaugrenard (Française Des Jeux), Denis Menchov (Rabobank), (Astana), Alexander Vinokourov, Serguei Ivanov and Daniel Navarro (Astana), Christian Vande Velde and Kurt-Asle Arvesen(Team CSC), Christian Knees (Milram), George Hincapie (Discovery Channel), Patrice Halgand (Crédit Agricole), Nicolas Portal and David Arroyo (Caisse d'Epargne), Kim Kirchen (T-Mobile), Ludovic Turpin (Ag2r Prévoyance), Javier Vila and Daniele Bennati (Lampre-Fondital), Laurent Lefèvre (Bouygues Telecom), Iñigo Landaluze, Rubén Pérez and Haimar Zubeldia (Euskaltel-Euskadi), Juan Manuel Gárate (Quickstep-Innergetic), Juan José Cobo (Saunier Duval-Prodir), Bernhard Kohl (Gerolsteiner) and Johann Tschopp (Bouygues Telecom)
Peloton at 8.13
I have the best job in the world. I mean, I get paid to hurt other people!! How much better can it get? -Jens Voigt, Philosopher, 05/27/06

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 7:34 AM EDT reply actions  

LeMevel has crashed out today.
Kirchen started the day 14th overall, 13'16" behind Rasmussen;  he's the highest placed rider in the breakaway.
I have the best job in the world. I mean, I get paid to hurt other people!! How much better can it get? -Jens Voigt, Philosopher, 05/27/06

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, correct that, VS correctly reports
that Zubeldia is best placed, about 12:?? behind ~:>.  Pozzato and Dessel DNS this morning.  
I have the best job in the world. I mean, I get paid to hurt other people!! How much better can it get? -Jens Voigt, Philosopher, 05/27/06

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

nada to happen today?
oh well. time to get ready for work.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The breakaway just passed
the memorial to Fabio Casartelli, on the descent of the Portet d'Aspet.  Ivanov descending ahead of the others, and has a gap.  Peloton at 7:54, about 91k to go/69mi.  Rabo at the front of the peloton.
It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Ooops, VS captures
a large part of Ivanov's break au naturel.  He was not trying to get away.  In the peloton, Iglinsky crashes on the descent, and is chasing back.  

They are racing through a really beautiful, forested gorge.

Bruyneel interviewed.  Raves about The Accountant, and (ick) calls him "the next Lance."

It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Well take a look at this
I think this begins to make the case that all is not as it seems with Bert

by mobilegoat on Jul 23, 2007 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!
i should have known someone here would be familiar with evil bert.

by Scott. on Jul 23, 2007 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vs. drooling about stage 16
something I've been doing since the route was announced

by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 23, 2007 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

did VS change their schedule today?
i printed a schedule from their website before the Tour started and it says today was supposed to start at 8:30 EST. miss much?

by Scott. on Jul 23, 2007 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Scott, you haven't missed
any action at all yet, but it's been beautiful to watch.  Rabo looks tired on the front, don't they?  Lots of shoulder-pumping climbing.
It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

we can only hope;
great to see George and Christian out front

by Scott. on Jul 23, 2007 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Descending the Col de Menthe
now, a twisting road of hairpins, beautiful shot.  The front group is already down in the valley.  The sun has come out now, but it's not too hot today.  Benna takes 6 pts in the sprint, with KAA getting 2nd.
It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning all!
So CSC have the camera car today. I can't wait to see live shots of Kim Anderson telling Carlos "hold back Carlos! Be careful!"

Port de Bales coming... need coffee...

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

The new climb is next, the HC
Port de Bales.  Paul says the top 2k were not paved until 2 years ago.  

Hmm, interesting factoid, per my Procycling '07 TdF guide:  "The Pyrenees are named after Pyrene, who was raped by Heracles and fled to the mountains, where it is believed she was eaten by wild animals.   The location of the mountains was specified by Greek historian Herodotus in 450 BC."

It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd be more excited
if they said the last two km were paved until two years ago.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vs Spotlight: Vino has a bodyguard!
Which strikes me as akin to Chuck Norris having a bodyguard . . .

by Sui Juris on Jul 23, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Landaluze and Ivanov
are off the front of the breakaway, with Kohl, Arroyo, and Tschopp.  They have 20 seconds.  About 55k to go, gap back to the peloton about 8 minutes even.  And I'm off to work....have a good one, all!
It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

The only reason Chuck Norris would
have a body guard would be to have someone close that he could use to beat someone with if he did not want to touch a particularly nasty bad guy.
Coup De Pot Rouleurs

by Clydesdale on Jul 23, 2007 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Dutch Armada
for ~:> now. Port de Bales starting imminently. So it's ... commercial time!
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Specialized
should be advertising its commuter bikes.

"Every pedal stroke propels me closer... to the office."

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone checked out our old buddies
at Cyling.tv to see if they've got any TdF coverage worth the effort it takes to fumble through their site?

by Scott. on Jul 23, 2007 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

i wonder if it is legal
to dramatize the action in real time with actors. That might be fun to watch. Probably, often more fun than the race.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've wondered the same
but I've been wary of that train wreck of a website

by mobilegoat on Jul 23, 2007 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

With every passing kilometer
the chicken tightens his grip on yellow.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

The problem
with c.tv at the moment is that there are ten zillion sites showing some sort of Tour video, and I don't have time for more than a couple.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Vino
in the breakaway? Hopefully he'll pull back 10 minutes and win the stage so we can read about how he's back from the dead again.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

KaBOOM!
Ivanov. Wow... someone scrape him off the hillside.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

"Finally, Menchov"
"got his ass in gear," the Chicken clucked.

by ghisallo on Jul 23, 2007 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I work for a telecom company
and we have the worst f'in internet connection in the world. Sheesh! right as something happens.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

So...
work to do today? Nice to see Rabo under pressure. I think the final climb, while only Cat 1, is where the sparks will fly. the HC climb is actually less steep on average, just longer. Am I being obvious?
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the roads
in the Pyrenees were supposed to be steeper and crappier.

pavement looks new to me, the grades awfully friendly.

by orangekick on Jul 23, 2007 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Port de Bales
starts off at 4-5 gradient, but at the end kicks up to 10 percent gradient. Thats why the average is not too high, but it certainly is tough.

by Chilltown on Jul 23, 2007 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Astarloza leaking oil
Boogerd hammering on the front.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

The haircut
slides back. Another Caisse d'Epargne "contender" bites the dust. Will Oscar Pereiro be their top rider again?
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Would be nice
to see some attacks here, if only to force a frantic chase down the back.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

look for attacks
from riders who did well in the Alps

by orangekick on Jul 23, 2007 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zubeldia!
They're letting him back in, though I suspect that gap will be pretty paltry by day's end. But he's 5' down on GC now, on the road. What's that, 6th?
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Boogerd hurting guys?
I dunno, if Karpets is rejoining the group, maybe they're not going all that fast.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Is there
a full moon out this morning?

This is a bad, bad precedent.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

When will they attack the chicken
are they going to let this stage slip by and wait for Wednesday?
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Peyresourde is
pretty steep. I suppose they'll wait.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

TdF rewards patience?
That seems to be the rule that the top 10 follow, but not the winners. Ah well.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right
you can follow wheels for three weeks, straight into 8th place. No problemo.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boogie
either using a pretty big gear, or about to blow. Nobody will accuse him of tapping out a rhythm.

Yaro-POP! We'll see if he claws onto the back.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like
Amstel '05. No wonder Boogerd is riding so well. Expect him to be second over the top.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruyneel
will be earning his coin today. Well, or not. But he has the team he wanted last year, a multi-headed hydra. Let's see if he can pull out the ace.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Kirchen crests the climb
Hopefully the fog will dissipate soon.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like
Frank Schleck is still up there with Carlos

by Veloki on Jul 23, 2007 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Arvesen and Vande Velde?
Did they survive in the front, or are they toast?
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

A couple trackers
say they are still in groups in between the main break and the yellow group.

by Veloki on Jul 23, 2007 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Away from the race
I just saw this on the Guardian's live coverage (yes, semi-unfaithful to PC)

"In other Tour news, customs officials stopped and searched vehicles of at least three teams on the A64 road in south-west France earlier today. In a move reminiscent of the Festina swoop in 1998, the officials were seen checking vehicles of the Rabobank, Discovery Channel and Astana teams."

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2132794,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=7

Didn't they have some sort of agreement not to do this?

by Monty. on Jul 23, 2007 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Great
As for agreements, I think they promised to consider not doing this in the spirit of fairness.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Polti kept their stash in the Hoover
Do Discovery travel with a large collection of Steve Irwin videos? It's to keep them busy in the evening, officer.

by Monty. on Jul 23, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol
EPO in Planet Earth. Testosterone in American Chopper.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

here's a nice comment
from that page
1.09pm More debate is being stirred up in the Rasmussen affair: International Cycling Union president Pat McQuaid has admitted he would rather the Dane did not win this year's Tour. "From an image point of view, it would be better if it was not Rasmussen but one of the youngest riders winning the Tour," said McQuaid. "But he has not broken any rule so far since two no shows are not a doping offence." In other Tour news, customs officials stopped and searched vehicles of at least three teams on the A64 road in south-west France earlier today. In a move reminiscent of the Festina swoop in 1998, the officials were seen checking vehicles of the Rabobank, Discovery Channel and Astana teams. On the descent, Ivanov is racing clear, while Arroyo has briefly stopped to repair some chain damage.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing unreasonable
but if I were head of UCI, I'd probably not go around picking favorites. McQuaid needs credibility training. Or maybe it's too late.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least with Ras
the investigation can start now, before the Tour is over, so there is a chance that his jersey can be stripped by 2009.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's where
it all gets screwed up. Do you investigate w/o any apparent violation? Because being under investigation is grounds to stop a rider. Can't stop the maillot jaune w/o a damn good reason.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

from eurosport audio
"It appears that the French customs service searched Astana, CSC, and Discovery Busses." No additional news.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

My prediction
Vino will crash on the descent, then get up and win the stage while bleeding from about 7 different places.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

JJ Cobo
Racing for the glory of my VDS team.

Here comes Vino.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Vino takes the stage lead
and he looks determined. de la Arroyo nabs his wheel.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

And we're off!`
Yaro-Pop there to soften them up. Rabo won't take the bait.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I can imagine
being willing to pay CHF 50.- a bottle at that point . . .

by Sui Juris on Jul 23, 2007 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like
FedEx field.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha
I might just make do with nothing, if I thought my francs were going into little Danny Snyder's pocket . . .

by Sui Juris on Jul 23, 2007 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rabo playing it straight
Just keeping up the tempo on the front nice and high to discourage attacks.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Iban Mayo
is Basque for "autobus".

Soler in trouble now...

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Vino
comes around Cobo and Zubeldia as they trade blows. 15km left. Kirchen and the Cd'E guy are cooked.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Doubt it
It's not his "style"....whatever

by CannonDowell on Jul 23, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Vino has 10"
on Cobo and Zub. Coming to the summit soon.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

So it appears
Nobody looks like they can make a move.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

P&P cursing Disco
Menchov explodes.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

(popping in)
Are the still on the Peyresourde?  Is vino alone?  How is he pedaling, is he pissed?
It's not over until the fat lady sings! -Jens Voigt, Philosopher. (ToCA '07)

by Ruthann on Jul 23, 2007 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Vino over the top
just being Vino

by mobilegoat on Jul 23, 2007 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vino
What a stud. Hard to dislike today.

by samboo on Jul 23, 2007 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

ino looks good
going over the top of the last climb w/32 seconds. Blasting it out. He'll win on the descent.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador!
Ras comes up. Everyone else stood still.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador tries again
hammering away, Rasmussen out of the saddle, for maybe 30 seconds! Nice two-man battle now!
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador's hammering
looks like it's about to pay off.

by Sui Juris on Jul 23, 2007 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Another try
And Contador is close to getting away!!!

Ras clawing on... small gap. Contador goes again! But now I'm not sure he can keep it up.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Together again.
Contador has to wind up for another try.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, nice
George and Alberto . . .

by Sui Juris on Jul 23, 2007 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Over the top
Contador catches Hincapie, but the confusion in the service cars ensures he can't distance Rasmussen.

Down they go.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Ran out of
real estate.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Vino wins!
Kirchen 2nd, Zubeldia 3rd.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Hincapie
trying to think of a way to ditch Rasmussen. Not likely. Three together.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador
doesn't quit.  One last hit.

by Sui Juris on Jul 23, 2007 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador tries again
tries again. No dice. Dude, if you have such great legs, why didn't you try earlier?
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

my thouhgts exactly
This is like the Giro in the way that i keep hoping someone will do something to ring his neck, but everyone stays in the barn until it's too late.

by CannonDowell on Jul 23, 2007 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

kohl and Vandevelde
finishing. no seconds available at the line but Contador and Rasmussen are racing nonetheless.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador hammers home
with Ras on his wheel.

The only thing that was accomplished was distancing the other competitors. They put another 45 seconds into them maybe? Pointless.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think it was pointless for Bert,
he was only up 41 seconds on Evans yesterday, so another 45 today gives him a little more wiggle room in the TT, where Cadel could easily take Bet's 2nd podium place.

by Scott. on Jul 23, 2007 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

24 vs 33
Contador should hit him as often as possible whether it works or not. Cumulative affect could pay off.

And what was Levi doing previous to this?

"Ive learned that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead"

by Drew on Jul 23, 2007 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Good effort
by Contador, but too late. He was roaring home to the finish. I think he could have survived if he started the attacks sooner, though I'm not his legs, so what do I know?  All I know is, the Accountant was the strongman of the day, but he couldn't quite crack the Chicken. Close, very close, but no dice. And in the end, Rasmussen just strengthened his hand.

Contador has served notice about what's to come Wednesday though. Not done yet, by a long shot.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

footage of ivanov
i feel how he looked every time i go out riding

by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 23, 2007 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Respect for Ivanov
Results say he came in in 22nd place, same time as Sastre/Levi/Evans/Kloden/etc!  I would never have expected that kind of recovery!

I wish Vino hadn't fallen, so we could really have seen this team in action.  Impressive while they're dragging Vino along, but it could have been so much fun.  Tactics that break the rules; deep bench.  Vino/Kloden/Kascheschkin vs Contador/Levi/Popovich coulda been spectacular.

Kirsten, Berkeley, CA

by Kirsten on Jul 24, 2007 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Running out of road to attack
Rasmussen is going to be a tough one to dislodge.
-K-

by KevinK on Jul 23, 2007 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

results
1 Alexander Vinokourov (Kaz) Astana
2 Kim Kirchen (Lux) T-Mobile                       0.49
3 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
4 Juan José Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir        0.51
5 Juan Manuel Gárate (Spa) Quickstep-Innergetic    2.16
6 David Arroyo (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne              3.24
7 Bernhard Kohl (Aut) Gerolsteiner                 4.25
8 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team CSC  
9 Ludovic Turpin (Fra) Ag2r Prévoyance             5.16
10 Alberto Contador (Spa) Discovery Channel        5.25
11 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank
12 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor-Lotto               6.27

General classification

1 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank                                          
2 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Discovery   2.23
3 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor    4.00
4 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Discovery             5.25
5 Andreas Klöden (Ger) Astana          5.34

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by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 23, 2007 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Respect due:
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<>*Johan and Discovery:

Contador is doing exactly what he needs to do to win the tour. As is Levi. Sending George up in the break to drive the Accountant to the finish was EXACTLY what they needed to do. Phil was adament that Contador needed to go earlier, but Alberto knows what is in his legs and he got a minute on everyone but the leader. He attacked with abandon while Levi was able to cover the other leaders. This was textbook tactics and aggressive racing, it just didn't blow the whole race open. Still, it was more than Cadel and the preggers pack did and paid off. I'm not a Disco fan, but they are doing the right things and riding to win.
<>*Michael Rassmussen
He's leading and rode like the leader. Contador burned a lot of matches today, but ~:-> and his flock did exactly what they needed to do to defend the jersey. He's one stage closer to winning the race
<>*Alexander Vinokourov:
He's not going to win, but the Dude will never, ever, ever quit. I think the think that held him back on the climb yesterday are his 50 kilo balls of solid brass.

Now, I'm not a Discovery fan, nor am I a fan of the Men in Black (other than Vino, he's won me over despite all of my skepticism and anger at dodgy Ferrari-based practices). I'm afraid that the big winners today (Discovery, Rassmussen, Vinkourov) are all winning with old-school technologies and techniques, but as far as racing and on the road toughness, tactics, and just plain ripping people's legs off, they are doing what I tune into cycling to watch.

I guess I hope that they all get busted, because I want a clean sport, but I admire the hell out of how they are racing. Color me confuddled on how to cheer for this tour.

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by Koppenberg on Jul 23, 2007 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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