Virtual Directeur Sportif '08: Let's Get Started!
The Basics:
- Each team will have to select 25 riders, using up to 150 points in the process.
- The only other rule at the outset is that you cannot have more than two riders worth 20 points or more. This eliminates the 4 grand tour studs and 21 scrubs strategy. Frankly, I could be talked out of this, but I dunno, I think it lacks creativity, and doesn't really resemble how teams are built. At least, not since the 2004 T-Mobile squad... and we all know how that ended.
- Submit your team by Wednesday, February 27, 2008 via email to
podiumcafe@yahoo.comvdsentry2008@yahoo.com. As usual, if you send it in early, any last-minute changes are due by the same deadline. Update [2008-1-17 15:33:46 by chris]: Don't forget to include your nom de blog with your submittal.
How it will work:
- This will be your team for the entire 2008 season. Earlier I posted the races that will be included in the competition. N.b.: the grand tours will have separate prizes for winners, we hope, but will NOT be scored separately in a second competition. We will have one unified VDS in 2008. It's all about the unity.
- During the season, you will not need to turn in a roster for each race. Rather,
the top nine scoresall points by guys on your 25-man roster will count towards your haul. Another reason not to pick 15 guys based on their potential performance at the Tour.
- I will come up with a substitution policy before Het Volk. I think it'll be a little more liberal than last year, but will listen to ideas about it.[editor's note, by chris] The substitution policy is... no substitutions.
- I said I wanted to try to let people participate in grand tours only if they join the party late, but am a little flummoxed about how to do it. So for now don't assume I'll come up with something. Basically, the dilemma is how to let people compete on a level playing field if they get to pick a team in June. Do I give them a short list of riders to choose from? I'd like to at least do this for the Tour, but again, am open to ideas about how to do so without messing up the year-long VDS, our top priority.
- Update [2008-1-15 23:43:29 by chris]: The scoring system has been posted, see the next post.
- Finally: as always, this contest is completely free and open to anyone who bothers to register a pseudonym at the Podium Cafe. No actual information required. Name your team and assign a DS. One entry per person, please. [And if you see anything that looks patently stupid, let me know asap.]
Rider values on the flip!

First, a word about the rationale here: these values roughly track the Cycling Quotient points standings from last year. Not the perfect system, but close enough, and considering how each rider's points tend to vary wildly from one year to the next, it's not worth fretting over small point values, IMHO. Also, I wanted to use something objective; I think the mistake I've made in the past was to try to project how guys will do, and what you ended up with was Chris Fontecchio's Favorite Riders, in order. Not good... or accurate.
That said, riders have been moved around, particularly in the top three brackets, to try to make the choices harder. Other guys were moved up if their '07 points scores were unusually low (think Hincapie, Rogers, other injured guys). Also, I took the U25 studs and sprinkled them around the scale, somewhat randomly... otherwise they'd all be bargain picks, and would show up on 85% of the rosters.
OK, have at it!
25
Cadel Evans
Alejandro Valverde
Alberto Contador
Oscar Freire
Denis Menchov
Tom Boonen
20
Alessandro Petacchi
Levi Leipheimer
Daniele Bennati
Danilo DiLuca
Ricardo Ricco
Alessandro Ballan
Fabian Cancellara
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18
Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez
Andy Schleck
Damiano Cunego
Jens! Voigt
Paolo Bettini
Davide Rebellin
Thomas Dekker
16
Kim Kirchen
Vlad Gusev
Vlad Karpets
Erik Zabel
Robbie McEwen
Filippo Pozzato
Stefan Schumacher
Stuart O'Grady
Thor Hushovd
Carlos Sastre
Frank Schleck
Andreas Kloden
Marcus Burghardt
14
JJ Cobo Acebo
Alessandro Bertolini
Franco Pellizotti
Joaquin Rodriguez Oliver
Fabian Wegmann
Danilo Napolitano
Vincenzo Nibali
Christophe Moreau
Mark Cavendish
Luca Mazzanti
Vlad Efimkin
12
Baden Cooke
Robbie Hunter
Gilberto Simoni
Gerald Ciolek
Philippe Gilbert
Jose Ivan Gutierrez Palacios
Stijn Devolder
Juan Mauricio Soler Hernandez
Wouter Weylandt
Update [2008-1-16 3:11:15 by chris]: Martin Elminger
David Lopez Garcia
Gert Steegmans
Allan Davis
Leonardo Piepoli
Leif Hoste
Nick Nuyens
George Hincapie
Michael Rogers
10
Tadej Valjavec
Robert Gesink
Greg Van Avermaet
Steven De Jongh
Igor Anton Hernandez
Alexandr Kolobnev
Romain Feillu
Leonardo Bertagnolli
Kurt-Asle Arvesen
Graeme Brown
Gustav Erik Larsson
JJ Rojas Gil
John Gadret
Francisco Mancebo Perez
Giovanni Visconti
Thomas Voeckler
Tom Danielson
8
Daniel Moreno Fernandez
Chris Horner
David Millar
Matteo Carrara
Evgeni Petrov
Stefan Van Dijk
JJ Haedo
Xavier Tondo Volponi
Luca Paolini
Mikhael Ignatiev
Janez Brajkovic
Yaroslav Popovych
Paolo Savoldelli
6
Jose Angel Gomez Marchante
Eladio Jimenez Sanchez
Vasil Kiryienka
Oscar Sevilla
Linus Gerdemann
Stef Clement
Joaquim Barbosa Candido
Maarten Tjallingii
Mikel Astarloza
Matti Breschel
Bernhardt Eisel
Stefano Garzelli
Bert Grabsch
Christian Pfannenberger
Janek Tombak
Manuel Beltran Martinez
Juan Antonio Flecha
Pierrick Fedrigo
Paul Martens
Haimar Zubeldia Agirre
Luis Leon Sanchez Gil
Koldo Gil Perez
Sebastian Chavanel
Andreas Klier
Remy DiGregorio
Bernhardt Kohl
Magnus Backstedt
Juan Manuel Garate
Thomas Lovkvist
4
Bert De Waele
Angel Vicioso Arcos
Sebastien Rosseler
Anthony Charteau
Enrico Gasparotto
Francisco Jose Ventoso Alberdi
Roman Kreuziger
Bobby Julich
Marzio Bruseghin
Fortunato Baliani
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Eddy Mazzoleni
David Zabriskie
Tomas Vaitkus
Emanuele Sella
Pavel Brutt
Alexandre Usov
Sylvester Szmyd
Sylvain Chavanel
Peter Velits
Leonardo Duque
Koldo Fernandez De Larrea
Ezequiel Mosquera Miguez
Dimitri Champion
Jose Rujano
Sebastian Lang
Nicholas Roche
Rene Haselbacher
Oscar Gatto
Stephan Schreck
Gianni Meersman
Heinrich Haussler
Dominique Cornu
Dmitriy Fofonov
Pietro Caucchioli
Robert Forster
Francesco Chicchi
Lars Bak
Benoit Vaugrenard
Chris Anker Sorensen
Lars Boom
Matthieu Ladagnous
Nico Eeckhout
Nicki Sorensen
Sandy Casar
Jimmy Casper
2
Kanstantin Siutsou
Roger Hammond
Patxi Vila Errandonea
Gregory Rast
Mikhaylo Khalilov
Gorik Gardeyn
Gabriele Bosisio
Roy Sentjens
Hector Guerra Garcia
Alexandre Efimkin
Ariel Maximilliano Richeze
Alexandre Botcharov
Johan Van Summeren
Martyn Maaskant
Borut Bozic
Steffen Radochla
Rinaldo Nocentini
Carlos Barredo Llamazales
Christian Vandevelde
Ludovic Turpin
Manuele Mori
Andy Capelle
Marco Marcato
Marco Pinotti
Daniele Pietropolli
Jose Miguel Elias Galindo
Ruslan Pidgornyy
Vicente Reynes Mimo
Oscar Pereiro Sio
Thomas Rohregger
Jeremy Hunt
Christian Murro
Murilo Fischer
Maxime Monfort
Laurens Ten Dam
Luis Perez Rodriguez
Massimo Giunti
Santo Anza
David Rodriguez Blanco
Luke Roberts
Javier Benitez Pomares
Remi Pauriol
Pablo Lastras Garcia
Jerome Pineau
Bram Tankink
Constantino Zaballa Gutierrez
Alberto Fernandez de la Puebla
Jose Azevedo
Moises Duenas
Staf Schierlinckx
Andrea Noe
Dario Cioni
David Kopp
Simon Gerrans
Karsten Kroon
Manuel Quinziato
Xavier Florencio Cabre
Luis Felipe Laverde Jimenez
Brad Wiggins
Jason McCartney
Daniele Nardello
Mario Aerts
Andre Greipel
William Bonnet
Paolo Bossoni
Paride Grillo
Alberto Loddo
Bert Roesems
Markus Fothen
Lorenzo Bernucci
Erki Putsep
Darren Lapthorne
Kevin Hulsmans
Anyone not listed here: 1 point
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Let the games begin!!!
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt
by ELVISGOAT on Jan 15, 2008 7:45 PM EST 0 recs
That 'ol reverse stratergy..
by ursula on Jan 16, 2008 2:09 AM EST 0 recs
Double Post
http://rrant-your-head-off.com/WordPress/?p=444#comment-1779
by ursula on
Jan 16, 2008 2:23 AM EST
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fairly warned
by Chris... on
Jan 16, 2008 2:55 AM EST
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Oh of course
by ursula on
Jan 16, 2008 11:15 AM EST
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Proven guilty ...
by notaero on
Jan 16, 2008 12:11 PM EST
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Where...
by DemonCats on
Jan 16, 2008 2:31 PM EST
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why stop at just Menchov?
http://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/sport_sto1444497.shtml
Ugh.
-Greg
by gregm on
Jan 16, 2008 10:39 AM EST
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Complex job
by KevinK on Jan 16, 2008 8:40 AM EST 0 recs
I hope you are being sarcastic!
Now that the Spanish government can no longer sweep Valverde's blood bads under the rug...I wonder if he will race at all this year...at least in Italy (and the Tour which goes through Italy). I'm sure the Spanish races will welcome him.
I predict we will never see the "promise" that he showed and the hype will not be met.
Adios Green Bullet!
by Keithfbcyl on
Jan 16, 2008 10:57 AM EST
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I left out part of my comment
by KevinK on
Jan 16, 2008 11:19 AM EST
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Wow!
And look at all those former 1.5 babies who are now ranked above 16.
It'll be an interesting VDS year, that's for sure.
by bethie on Jan 16, 2008 9:58 AM EST 0 recs
could be a breakout year for Burghardt
by KevinK on Jan 16, 2008 10:47 AM EST 0 recs
spreadsheets
Are you going to produce the spreadsheets with the riders' names and points? Similar to last year? Thanks for all the hard work to make this happen.
by brunopitton on Jan 16, 2008 12:51 PM EST 0 recs
Well
by Chris... on
Jan 16, 2008 1:00 PM EST
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Chris,
by CannonDowell on Jan 16, 2008 1:40 PM EST 0 recs
sorry dude
by Chris... on
Jan 16, 2008 2:17 PM EST
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Do you think
by Drew on Jan 16, 2008 2:45 PM EST 0 recs
Hennie is available
Honestly, you could pick 25 of your friends and make them your roster. Just don't to win or gain anyone's respect. [That said, I could see DS Little Bear staffing his team with his imaginary friends.]
by Chris... on
Jan 16, 2008 2:52 PM EST
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And
by Drew on Jan 16, 2008 3:02 PM EST 0 recs
Is Slipstream...
by DemonCats on Jan 16, 2008 3:54 PM EST 0 recs
Nope
by Chris... on
Jan 16, 2008 4:54 PM EST
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Nope
by BDBrian on
Jan 16, 2008 4:55 PM EST
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Why?
and how is Pereiro worth only 2 points?
by d rod on Jan 16, 2008 7:56 PM EST 0 recs
Can you say 30 minute gift?
by BDBrian on
Jan 16, 2008 11:58 PM EST
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LAst year's points
by Chris... on
Jan 17, 2008 12:00 AM EST
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Team Foolish Sentiments is back
by BDBrian on Jan 17, 2008 12:14 PM EST 0 recs
question
by callmecayce on Jan 17, 2008 4:19 PM EST 0 recs
and also
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Jan 17, 2008 4:21 PM EST
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Oops
by callmecayce on
Jan 17, 2008 4:22 PM EST
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Team "They Might Be Dopers"
- Ricardo Ricco
- Jens Voigt
- Filippo Pozzato
- Vlad Efimkin
- Stijn Devolder
- Leif Hoste
- Juan Antonio Flecha
- Haimar Zubledia
- Enrico Gasparotto
- Marzio Bruseghin
- Leonardo Duque
- Davide Zabriskie
- Emanuele Sella
- Jimmy Caspar
- Roger Hammond
- Marco Pinotti
- Christian Vandevelde
- Alberto Loddo
- Paride Grillo
- Rinaldo Nocentini
- Alexandre Efemkin
- Maxime Monfort
- Jerome Pineau
- Bram Tankink
"Give up now and no one gets hurt!"
by DemonCats on Jan 17, 2008 11:37 PM EST 0 recs
Chris,
Thanks, bro!
And if no one has said it yet, thanks again for providing us geeks with a whole season of fun and angst!!!
by DemonCats on
Jan 17, 2008 11:47 PM EST
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Dude
by Drew on
Jan 18, 2008 9:08 AM EST
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Good Luck
Definitely no DiLuca or Contador. Leipheimer wont be winning any of the GT's. Don't know how Evans will do, so no 25 pointers for me!
by DemonCats on
Jan 18, 2008 11:23 AM EST
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I bet 20$
Seriously this is too much fun. I just got home from travel and found the ridervalues posted. I'm going spreadsheat-crazy trying to find my perfect team. Damn it's hard to avoid the boring alternative to keep most of the riders I had last season.
by Jens on
Jan 18, 2008 11:53 AM EST
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Don't know how...
I down loaded the top-15 racers for all the races, for the last three years and started choosing riders whose names appeared with regularity and then subtracted the racers who might have a CONI hearing and came up with a rough list, further whittled down by points!
by DemonCats on
Jan 18, 2008 1:15 PM EST
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At this point...
by DemonCats on
Jan 18, 2008 1:18 PM EST
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Can I get a taste of that action?
Last year's performance as a predictor of 2008 has two problems: 1) it doesn't work; and 2) others will tend to use the same values, so even if it does work, it just keeps you on par with a dozen other teams at least.
by Chris... on
Jan 18, 2008 3:51 PM EST
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What I meant was
And yes, the key is finding the guy no one expects to do well, not the one everyone has his eyes on. Last year there weren't that many teams who had Riccardo Ricco, but that will probably change in 2008.
by Jens on
Jan 18, 2008 4:27 PM EST
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Well
by Chris... on
Jan 18, 2008 5:45 PM EST
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Although...
by DemonCats on
Jan 18, 2008 6:57 PM EST
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20 point riders
by d rod on Jan 18, 2008 9:31 AM EST 0 recs
Up to two
by Chris... on
Jan 18, 2008 10:02 AM EST
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