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Paris-Roubaix... LIVE!

Here's what you need to know:

  • Log into Cycling.TV RIGHT NOW! Don't wait til the start time, when 99% of their other subscribers hit the same server. That gerbil can only run so fast.
  • Race start time: 4:40am Pacific. This is a brutal thing, but there's little choice. The Forest of Arenberg is pretty early on.
  • No Versus coverage today. They're showing it next week. No explanation could possibly be satisfactory.
  • This thread will be open until we get near 400, or sooner if it looks like we'll hit 400 in the middle of a big sector. Then we'll move to thread #2, and maybe #3. Somewhere between most and all of you know the drill. I'll be up. Probably at the crack of 4.40. What else would I be doing at that hour?

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Ready.
Shouldn't you be sleeping?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Logged in.
Coffee set for robotic start.

Alarm set.

Going to have to take some nyquil to get sleepy, but its times like these that I'm glad I've got my "medicine cabinet of courage".

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Taping P-R to watch after work today
Only positive thing about the complete lack of interest in cycling in Sweden: it's easy to avoid inadvertently getting tipped off about the result.

Some last minute news. Bad luck for the norwegians: KAA has hurt his wrist in training and will start but is unsure of how he will feel, Thor has caught a cold and will also start at less than 100%.

by Jens on Apr 13, 2008 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

here it comes
this is the best day of racing of the whole year

by King of Doping on Apr 13, 2008 6:18 AM EDT reply actions  

In!
And waiting.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

weather news
there was sunshine at the start but according to the official website:

12:24 - Raindrops on the race
A few raindrops have appeared on the race.

by King of Doping on Apr 13, 2008 6:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone notice
Cycling news is posting provisional results already?  It looks like Freire won..
Vlaenderen die Leu

by Peter Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Freire is an impressive rider
he can win in hilly races, classic length races, flat races, short races, cobbled races and even races he doesn't even start. And to be fair to CN no other rider has finished in front of him yet.

by Rothko on Apr 13, 2008 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect
Egoat is behind it.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

yawn
Race mornings should be rainy and cold.  Tis sunny and not so cold outside.  Hrm.

by Sui Juris on Apr 13, 2008 7:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Sunny here too
but a red sky at sunrise. That can't be good.

Also, if everyone is logged into Ctv, are you also getting the Broadcast off air screen on the live race section? Just making sure...........

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep
getting the same thing.

I am choosing to believe that the stream will show up on time.

by Sui Juris on Apr 13, 2008 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ctv Broadcast started
Showing 2007 edition.  I had to refresh to get it.

by spaley on Apr 13, 2008 7:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Me too
Apprehension loves company.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:18 AM EDT reply actions  

1200 kbps preview
looks good. My hopes are officially up.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 7:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah, excellent
Thanks spaley, that did the trick.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I got up late!
But still managed to get logged in with minimal trouble.

And then the first thing I heard is that they'd just gotten through Arenberg!

Then I figured out what's going on, and put on the water for tea. Here we go!

by Christopher on Apr 13, 2008 7:23 AM EDT reply actions  

rubbing eyes...
Good morning.  :-)
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Just watching Franzoi
in the break from last year, and he crashed out of Flanders last week with a suspected broken leg. I read this week that is was more of a bruised knee, anyone know if he's starting today? I'm too lazy to check cyclingfever.com
 
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:26 AM EDT reply actions  

the gal
I've got the call chatting away...
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

contact
I'm in... now to the coffee
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

1135 kb is good for me!
lets DO THIS THING!
this is our superbowl! and my girlfriend is curled up (been asleep for 7+hrs) telling me to turn off the laptop and come to bed for the night.

oh, if people only understood.

by djebel on Apr 13, 2008 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Just saw Sui Juris'
pre-Ctv rant in the other thread :-)

It's working for you now, right?

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Friedman
Brad Huff has a pic on his website that's pretty funny. It's a Slipstream helmet with an big "I love RBX" sticker. Meatball had the license plate, why not the sticker?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah crap...
Folks, looks like Eurosport is chopped off in Korea this time... Anybody have an alternate video source, as I dont have Ctv?

by bFox on Apr 13, 2008 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I just came in at the end of the wheel set questio
Are there TWO competions?

Oh, and for the frame, how do you spell "Kahpi?"

by Christopher on Apr 13, 2008 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

We have pictures
Laurent Jalabert on the back of a moto behind the break. 3 riders, Kucyx, Serov(?) and ?

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The third
is Pronk. Not that it really matters. Leaders currently on pave sector 23

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thor Hushovd
has already quit after crashing

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

that sucks
but he doesn't ever finish well in this race.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Btw
QS and Slipstream got good car placings today (5&6) while Lotto got screwed (22). If Hoste needs a bike change at some point today I predict his head will explode.

\*/

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Well
that didn't work how I expected it to


 *
/
*/

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

latest weather
winds are from the NW now...

America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Good morning, everyone!
I'm in c.tv, but have had to drop to 800 kbps already, as the 1200-stream stops working for me every few seconds....  Can you get us more power, c.tv?  I'd really like to watch at full power!

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

current race situation
per CN:

Current race situation
Matthé Pronk (Cycle Collstrop), Jan Kuyckx (Landbouwkrediet-Tönissteiner) and Alexander Serov (Tinkoff Credit Systems)
Peloton at 4.50

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning all
coffee is ready, watching the pre-race coverage

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

sectors I
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

sectors II
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

It's ON
sunny, dry and dusty
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Direct C.TV link?
Can someone just post it here... I'm logged in, but the site is loading extremely slowly.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not that link
The link that is the actual page you're on when you are watching the video

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

that what's in my addy bar
all i got , sorry
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since I've posted all of my CTV whingings
I should say I'm happily viewing from the start at 1200kbs. All it took was logging in the night before.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Boonen
casually stripping off his sleeves and luzzing them into a car parked at the side of the road. Souvenir or littering?

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Souvenir
but honestly, they throw all their trash away on the road.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in but
it's already spluttering

by lyne on Apr 13, 2008 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Spluttering for me, too.
More f-inheimers out of Ruthann before 7am on a Sunday.  That can't be good for me, long-range...

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep
st-st-stuttering in DC @ 800 (having already dropped from 1200).

by Sui Juris on Apr 13, 2008 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

is anyone else finding
anthony and brian's commentary on c.tv to be coming across as blaring, no matter how you tweak the volumes/gains?

by djebel on Apr 13, 2008 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Am i live or a delay?
devolder getting  help from team car; am I in and current, or in a loop?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

delays are hard to judge
I was about 10 seconds behind the PC thread during Flanders.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's NEXT year's race
just don't tell us the results.

No...  that's now.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

1200
I'm still @1200 and it's been pretty steady thus far...
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

go julian
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

myp2p.eu
Can those of you watching via this site drop a comment about how it's working, from time to time?  I'm quite interested.

Thanks.

by Sui Juris on Apr 13, 2008 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

im a 3 yr cycling.tv subscriber, but...
myp2p.eu is an OUTstanding site. you need to get a few p2p programs, but other than that, the site is flawless.
if i cannot access a sporting event i cannot pay for or watch for free in the us, im all over this amazing resource and 85% of the time, very few problems with access.

luck

by djebel on Apr 13, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry
for not responding.  Was working on breakfast.  Glad you found it.

by Sui Juris on Apr 13, 2008 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm in
1200 lagged and I switched back to 800...

I may try to go back to 1200 again.

Big George punctures. Sieberg gives him the wheel... 24th car. Ouch.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

ok koppenberg, yr right...
cyclists litter...but the american sports megalith still turn a blind eye to self injection of PED'S

so lesser of two evils kinda thing!  :)

by djebel on Apr 13, 2008 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't know the details re P-R
but ASO actually organise teams to clean up the roads after the Tour passes.

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pave 21
Break looking good

rain clouds on the horizon, but dry and dusty for now

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

maggy
they keep talking down Maggy... aaugh!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

funny
I kept thinking they were going to jinx him by talking him up too much.

Maggie is healthy an ready for PR for the first time in years. I'm just bursting w/ hope for him.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I stepped away...
who is the Slippie at the front for Backstedt?

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

ther's a hill!
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

julian in his nat'l jersey
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Saunier rider on front?
That's a rare sight, who is it?
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Hilarious
Keep the Innertube posts short, or they might run out of capacity.

by Sui Juris on Apr 13, 2008 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm flabbergasted that they managed to find
the worst BB software that exists in the whole universe

by lyne on Apr 13, 2008 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pave 20
everything looking good. anyone have a reading on how much time the break has?

CSC has horses at the front for this one

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I say that c,tv should shut down the
Inner Tube to conserve c.tv headquarters power, and get the damn live race stream GOING.  Argh!!!

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Too much fun last night
Just got out of bed and can't get in CTV. Everything will be alright...right???????

by PopUp Rolen on Apr 13, 2008 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Now
I could have sworn that that was a Silence rider. Not the first time this year that I've mixed the two up.

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

1200 sputtering
but I'm afriad to try 800
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Beautiful shots of the
racing on the pave.  God, you just can't beat that.  

And isn't Kuckx pretty old, like 38 or something?  Anyone know?  

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, as for CdE
Portal is the first Frenchman I've seen the camera on so far ...

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

1200 has some stutters
but frankly I'd be happy watching a slideshow of PR so i'm not complaining.

for those who can't connect, keep refreshing the live link posted above, and keep swearing at the connection. Last week, that's what I did and I got logged in exactly in time to see Boonen leading the charge up the Koppenberg. You'll get in, but waiting sucks.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

VN
has the break at 5:23 ahead
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

good name
'pronk' is a verb describing what springbok antelope do when they jump straight up in the air with all four feet to show off
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Coffee good
I'm definitely only going to drink beer for the Ronde. Last week was certainly fun, but the headache kicked in in the afternoon.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

He's been known to do that
as he comes across the line. Very impressive.

Funny how the technical questions asked on the Innertube have already been covered in our Techs Mechs section.

PdC - ahead of the curve as usual.

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Chris - sleeping in
as usual.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

he was up a little late
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Between sectors
riders fighting to get to the front, Millram, QS moving up on the left side.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

CTV Coverage
Hi,

Firstly, apologies to those of you who have experienced problems logging in this morning.

We are now broadcasting Paris-Roubaix FREE at data rates of 100, 256 and 400 kbs so if you are having trouble logging into the 800/1200, you can watch at a lower data rate until the log-in refreshes.

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 13, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent
Thanks
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maggie is riding a VERY active race in the bunch
Constantly sitting top 10 in the bunch is impressive...

by racerboy on Apr 13, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Important Team Car Order
  1. Quick.Step
  2. Slipstream
  3. Cofidis
  4. CSC
  5. Rabobank
  6. Lampre
  7. Liquigas
  8. Silence-Lotto
  9. High Road
That's pretty rough for Silence-Lotto and High Road.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Aaah, how sweet
Matti Pronk has cut out the list of pave sectors and glued it to his top tube. I bet he did the same during his school exams.

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey all
OK, I'm trying to get in. I left my computer logged in, but it seems to be in some sort of stalemate with the CTV server. How far til Arenberg?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

A little more than 15k, approx
to sector 18 Arenberg.  Good morning!

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

only
8k after they get to the end of the current pave.

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the conversation on roubaix bikes
What is your favorite Pave rig?

Backstedt's titanium Bianchi
Old school Merckx Leader MX battleship?
Colnago C40 of the Farm-Frites sweep era?

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Fave bikes
Mapei era C40 or Domo Team SC in the red & blue or green, blue & black. Those were sweet rigs...

by racerboy on Apr 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

crash
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Crash
Eisel and Haussler notable riders held up - Eisel didn't fall, though.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

down and up again
slowed down eisel, hausler; one colstrop rider hit fairly hard
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

they are going pretty damn hard
before the foret d'arenberg.

I predict PAIN once they hit the rough stuff.

(not exactly a revelation, I know.)

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Pave 19
Break looking good, but not exactly smooth. No rain yet, but clouds on horizon look ominous.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Chris...
...are you able to view the free data rates which we are currently sending out? In the meantime, keep refreshing and you should get in shortly.

Again, apologies for these problems experienced.

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't get anything
no pages are loading. Is the server overloaded or something?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rebecca,
You're a brave soul for announcing your presence.
I can't even get to the free data rates area. I'm hung up trying to get to the viewer. Between the internal server errors and the just plain nothingness, I'm getting no love here. Pls help.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 13, 2008 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Helpful hint for the peloton
Don't ride anywhere near 'Steiner riders.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

flashback
who was the 'steiner dude w/ the horrible get-off in MSR last year?

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

leaders in section 19
pronk still bouncing along
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

The tram stops
for the race. I guess the high speed train can't stop for the riders, though.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Crazy bunny hop!
From the sidewalk to the road!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

dry
earlier this morning it was raining... is it only dry at the earlier parts or has the weather improved everywhere?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

4'46"
to the break now

the main bunch is not taking it easy

lampre doing some work

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Finally!
Djebel, thanks for the tip on Sputnik!

by bFox on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Cavendish
I don't think this is a good race for him.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

elmiNger down and slow to go again
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Elminger crash in town
his luck's not so good, is it?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

he's got me typing elmiNger
gaaaaah, it's eating my brain
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will the break last through the Forest
I think not!

Peloton heads onto sector 19. Setting up for the forest.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

main group on pave 19 now
CSC still drilling it

they are doing the lion's share of the pre-arenberg work. actualy reminds me of Quickstep 2 years ago. controlled up to Arenberg and then Boonen was solo the rest of the way.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

stuey
doing well thus far :-)
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

indeed
most impressive to see the reigning champ doing work this early. CSC meant it when they said they are working for Cance this year.

I haven't even seen a Quickstep jersey yet.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

All datarates now FREE on CTV
Hi,

As some of you are experiencing problems we are now broadcasting all data rates FREE on Cycling TV. This should resolve any log-in problems...

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 13, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

sputtering
I'm not risking losing what I have though
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, thanks...I think...
But tell the world, and then...all the servers go down?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

way to go rebecca
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice gesture
but not very helpful if we can't get the site to work.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 13, 2008 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go, CSC, a bunch of them
leading the peloton into Sector 19!  A glorious show of power!

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Good for CTV!
That's a nice customer service move by them. Good luck to you all who aren't in yet!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Ag2r
head over teakettle
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Krivtsov (sp?)
handlebars broke?

Who-all is using all carbon?

--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh, Kritsov crash replay looks
terrible!  Did he lose his handlebars??

by Ruthann on Apr 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Frischkorn
off on side?  Flat?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Next pave is foret d'arenberg
watch the leaders jockey for position!

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Rabo sighting
Can't tell by faces - I presume Freire and Flecha?

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

little split
at the front of the bunch

no list of who is there and who is missing

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

And holy shit
The group is 30-35

And the 2nd group is chasing so damn hard

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC, Rabo, Liquigas, QS
near the front. All the favorites appear as the forest gets near. CSC is setting a blistering pace right now. Only about 30 riders left. I see Stijn Devolder.

Second group now coming back with 50 riders.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Fast
Christ they are moving fast!

by ursula on Apr 13, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Slipstream
it looks like Farrar might be the teammate right with Maggy
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I see Hoste
his style is easy to spot from the air!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Just imagine the adrenaline
pegging it so hard

knowing that the first major split is coming

100 km left in the race

arenberg is coming

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

together again
60 plus; dangerous for arenberg

I'd rather be in a separate 2nd set of 30, which is why I'm not a pro racer (one of many reasons!)

--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

OK but
I'm in on the mac, which doesn't have the fullscreen version. Not sure why the PC laptop is taking 20 minutes to load a page when the Mac does it instantly. I guess it comes down to the cool guy vs the nerd, just like the ad says.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

They're pretty close
1.2 for the lead to the Trouee

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

The mine gear
is off to the left. The forest looms!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

O MG!!
I finally got in on CTV--Just in time to see my bargain Krivstov roll on the cobbles
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 13, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

hwg
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

break is in the forest!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Tinkoff rider
struggles through the forest losing more and more speed.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

And just in time!
Here's the archway. So fucking cool!

For a second I thought Brian was going to say he was hoping for some good crashes.

Looks like a decent day... blue sky and all.

And a crash!

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

includes pozzatto
and my picture and sound freeze.
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

ditto
why doesn't ctv take care of main stream vs free coverage?  augh!!!!!!!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nasty
Pozzatto & Flecha crash in the dash to the Arenberg

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

FLECHA
chasing to get back on through the forest! FUCK!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

OH NO
Flecha punctures, and Pozzato down. Fuck!

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Ouch!
Oh, Pippo. He's totally screwed, crashing before the forest.

FLECHA TOO!

Holy shit. Two key guys way at the back...

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

spotty sound
picture frozen on Tinkov dude

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

The favourites
hit the Arenberg at more than 60kph. Devolder leading Boonen at the front.

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

no picture
sound is clear.

Devolder doing big work on the front, Boonen in good position

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

is that nuyens at the back
or another cofidis?  Still no sound, but I don't want to kill the picture.
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Attack from Liquigas
through the forest. Many riders seeking to ride on the mud. Devolder is sliding back through the field.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

At least
Pippo isn't riding in a crowd, good shots of him pegging it to get back on

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

There's the split
Pozzato trying to get back up, but having trouble.

11 before the first split - Maggy is suffering. NO!

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Mags
laughing at the mere mortals who ride on the grass. viking gods ride the Pave!

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Magnus
suffering.

Pippo driving through the field. Flecha is there too!

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Technical problems
OK, working again. Pippo working his way back.

Poor Maggy... seems to be heading backwards.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Van Summer Ale
looking good as they leave the forest

Boonen has Stijn w/ him

Mags :(

I don't see CSC at the front

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Van Summeren hammering at the front
Boonen and Quinziato first three out

Devolder is there. Maggy is not

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Forest a non-factor
Everything will come back together.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

slippies
there's a few slipstream guys there with maggy - tyler and martijn maybe?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Front group
Devolder, Wesemann, Cooke, Maaskant, Ballan, Hink.

2nd group trying to come back fast.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

out of the forest
18 in leading group

then 10

then 8

not together yet

Pippo riding smooth, but chasing

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

The forest blew
the field into pieces, but there is not huge pressure at the front.

Second and third groups are only a few seconds behind.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

slip
at least I'm getting better and picking them out.  don't count out martijn - he's pretty good with this kind of race
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Maskaant
becomes Slippies' guy today. He's having a helluva spring. Pippo and Flecha are going to have to be superhuman to do anything today, chasing back like that.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

On the upside
Pozatto's hair looks terrific.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Careful
I almost spit coffe on my keyboard!

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Composition
CSC, High Road, Quick-Step, Silence-Lotto have the numbers.

2nd group has caught up.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

only the strong survive
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Cyclingrush...
...can you tell me what error you are receiving when you try to watch the free stream??

Thanks,

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 13, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't even get there
First I get a more or less graphics-free version of the home page (lots of words in hyperlink blue).

If I get past that, it's straight to the live races page and then I either wait forever w/ no results, or I get the internal server error. Thx.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 13, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just found the free to view link
but I get nothing but an empty browser when I click on it.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 13, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in now
Had to restart the computer. Appreciate anything you did to make access easier.

I've always been taught to praise in public, admonish in private, so I'll send an private email later.

Thanks again, Rebecca.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 13, 2008 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flecha and Pozatto
in the second group on the road.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

ouch!
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Pippo's hair
appears to the be the only thing that is going right for him today

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

poz
hair not braided and now with gear issue
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe his hair
got caught in the gears during the crash.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

tee hee hee
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch
Gap is 1 minute to the Pozzato group. I think he's done.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Pazzato's hip
Ouch!
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 13, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

pave 17
Silence and CSC back at the front. looks like bjarne's boys have regrouped and are determined to control the race.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

2nd chase group
about 1'10" behind the main bunch. break has less than 2 minutes.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh good
Pozzato's derailleur is falling apart. If he wins...

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

he becomes a god
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oy!
Flecha group pretty 1" behind the Cancellara group.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Props to Collstrop and Landboukredit
nice to see the Belgian teams in the break. those two have been sponsoring for many years, getting their money's worth in this break.

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Pippo looking like a casualty
flecha doesn't have a lot of help in this group...

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Pippo looks dejected
This group is not working effectively. Flecha rides away in a lonely pursuit.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Flecha had bad luck
Unfortunately, that's life in Roubaix. You've gotta have the luck to win this race.

by BDBrian on Apr 13, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

It's good to see
4 strong teams trading work at front - HR, QS, *, CSC
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Hammond looks good
even though his jersey looks ugly.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

DEVO
makes a nice rear light for the front group with that red stripe
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Nuyens
also left behind in the Arenberg and in 2nd peloton.

by Monty. on Apr 13, 2008 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC is applying the pressure
I assume there will be a bit of a let-up at some point. If Flecha can keep the gap small, he might be able to work across at some point.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

\O/
at the back. Not a shock.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

back of the front
thus no right or reason to complain
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah
CSC and QS are happy. HR and Silence are where they want to be, Cofidis, Rabo, and Liquigas are swearing.

Not sure about Lampre, is Ballan still with the leaders? Does he have help?

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

stuey
Is looking really good today!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

RE derailleur
hey, you don't REALLY need gears for this, do you?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

that called a nuclear plant , anthony
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Not too many
not too many countries show off their nukes like that...

by ursula on Apr 13, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

france has too many
to hide them all
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell no
I grew up there and there's no reason to go back

by ursula on Apr 13, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh's changed a lot
you might be amazed

Iowa...not so different.

--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

IL
I've been in one here and they are impressive.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tracks again!
will we get a train?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

"and they've ripped his legs off"
"He may not be feeling it now, but that Russian is going to feel this in the morning!"

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

"stronger on the pave"
= stronger in the dirt on the side
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Jeeze, finally in vis c.tv
But I think I'll keep Sputnik up on the other computer, just in case. It's behind the c.tv feed by about 30 seconds.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 13, 2008 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

we're at about 300 post now
fwiw
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Flecha hauling ass
across the cobbles. They are all on sector 16 now.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

What's the sitch w/ Mags?
haven't seen him since Arenberg

he appears to have missed the Pippo/Van Der Flecha chase

HR looking good w/ Eisel and Hammond working for Hincapie

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Tony does well
slotting in with other teams; not counting him out
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Sector 16 now
Chris's great review shows the winning move happens around sector 8... you have to be in front by then (Pozzato, listen up)

by hughw on Apr 13, 2008 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

OK!
All together here... I'm in on the PC laptop, where the fullscreen option works. Got a frothy latte at the elbow. I even found my slippers. ahhhhh

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

pronk now alone?
landbouwkredit punctures
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Feed time
at the end of sector 16. Flecha still powering through sector 16.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Pronk all alone
soak in some solo camera time, and then the fireworks start.

Good to see Servais in the thick of things. If he bridges, HR will be looking GOOD

Pippo gets a bike change and some fresh hair gel, he's ready to go!

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Langeveld dropped
back to help Flecha, I think.

Pozatto with a new bike.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 13, 2008 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

slipstream
I was hoping twitter updates would be in but nothing since yesterday. Where is Mags? I was hoping to see some Meatball too and nothing as of yet.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Dropped and dropped
But Maskaant is still in there, I htink.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's their bet now
for a good placing
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 13, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pippo
did he ever get a new bike?

And just on cue, there it is.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Christ I'm out of coffee!
QS looking formidable,

a significant move should happen soon

looks like VDF and Pippo have bridged

by Koppenberg on Apr 13, 2008 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

next move at
mons en pevel
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 13, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flecha & Pippo
still in 2nd chasing group

by lyne on Apr 13, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

hot water
I just made myself coffee, but I forgot to put the actual coffee in the machine...

by Jimbo... on Apr 13, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's with
the rebuffering?

Assuming this is universal, from the comments. My own issues had to do with the ability of the laptop to load. Maybe explorer is suckier than Firefox. Maybe it's all just a server lottery...

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 13, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

click "settings"
and then "retest."  It should give you  a good load.  if not, try a different server from the list and retest again.
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 13, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Farrar
In chase group. What happened to Mags?!?!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 13, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply actions