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Ronde van Vlaanderen ... LIVE (#1)

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I think it's safe to say we'll need two of these today. Race kicks off momentarily, under something other than sunny skies in Brugge. No more words can describe it... on to the pictures. Enjoy!

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Morning all
"Only those who are dentists can say that the Ronde is not hard. For all others, it's the way of the floss."

I believe I'll take that 5 pts now Chris.

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 6:47 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good morning!
I started a diary, sorry Chris!  Wasn't sure if you were up yet!

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 6:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi guys!
Up? My biological clock went off at 3.44. Not too shabby!

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 6:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ZApped
I deleted it... sorry! For posterity, it was beautifully written.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 6:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you!
Isn't this exciting!!??  Live action....NOW! :-)

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 6:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morning!
...the good comes as soon as the coffee kicks in!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 6:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone getting a pregame show on Ctv
or are you looking at the same DePanne highlights as me?
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 6:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was
just kicked over to live feed.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 6:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Happy morning thought:
If Congress hadn't messed with daylight savings, it would be 2.50 right now.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 6:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate Congress
;-)
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 6:52 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Live ticker
here http://www.sportwereld.be/extra/live/wielrennen/2008/rvv/live/index.html Learn Flams while you wait.

Posthuma, Wesemann and Tom Steels out already.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 6:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good ol Rabo
What happened to Posthuma?

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 6:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least
that's what I reckon Opgave means. And Stappen af too.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 6:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do you guys have vid
on ctv?

I can't get pass the Flanderen front page there...

by Bruce on Apr 6, 2008 6:55 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing but errors for me...
No vid... no ctv... nothing ...
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 6:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here !!!!
"The ox is slow but the earth is patient."

by Teel 22 on Apr 6, 2008 7:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still get nothing...
I got the first stage of de Panne video but no active link to the Ronde. fume
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 7:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Try saying it out loud lots of times
11:16nog 202 km > Opgave Posthuma

Wat een pech voor de man-in-vorm Joost Posthuma! Hij moet opgeven. De Nederlander - deze week nog winnaar van de Driedaagse van De Panne - heeft een bloedneus waar maar geen einde aan komt. Wat er precies scheelt met de renner is nog niet duidelijk, maar het is voldoende erg voor hem om af te stappen.

Suddenly the odd word clicks.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 6:56 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My guess
What a pisser for the man-in-form Joost Posthuma! He had to give up. The Dutchman - already this week winner of the 3 days of de Panne - had a bleeding nose ......... .What precisely he .... with the pack is still not duidelijk, but .... it forced him to stop.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 6:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love watching the sign-ins.
Beautiful crowd there, of course!  1200 kbps on c.tv, looking great!

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 6:56 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ballan crashed earlier
but remounted. Franzoi is out, possibly with a broken leg.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 7:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops, spoke too soon; the live
shots show drops of rain on the camera lens.  Franzoi out w/broken leg already.  Gap 1:41

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How's that
bloody mary Ruthann?
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very nice, thank you!
First time I've had an olive before noon.  You know me;  always up for new experiences! :-)

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy shit
Franzoi and Posthuma are on my team. That's called 'good luck', right?

by King of Doping on Apr 6, 2008 7:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

horrible
conditions!

by Bruce on Apr 6, 2008 7:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cycling.tv login nightmares
in  3... 2... 1...

And there's the error page.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soooo... is there some trick to this?
Or is this the worst $99 I've ever spent?
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 7:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keep at it; try closing and
opening a new browser.  It's aggrevating, isn't it?  

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try again
I've been on since the preview and the video actually is really sharp.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rechstreeks: Renders (topsport)
Veelers, Tombak, Jerome (Bweeg!)  Posthuma out with an uncontrollable bloody nose, how terrible!

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And we're in!
Keep at it guys and gals, it took 15' but is working now. Just keep refreshing and reloading.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spartacus dressed
like he's riding in Minnesota today. Brian picks Boonen.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vagaries of spring in MN...
it was 63 here yesterday, 50 today.  Got out on my bike for the first time since October yesterday, and am experiencing great pain today in the sitting area of my body.  The Bloody Mary seems to be helping with that, however.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morning all
Took me 20 min to get into cycling.tv. On with the show!

by Veloki on Apr 6, 2008 7:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

urge to kill rising
seriously, it's 4am, don't fuck with me cycling.tv

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

step back...
take huge drink of beer and then try log in.  They commented that tons are trying to log in right now.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CTV
Guys, it is a little slow...the mad rush to log in all at the same time...slow but working refresh, F5 it is beautiful once in... stay with it there's 4 hours....servers areall fine...busy, but holding up....

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

viewing
So do those of you that have been doing this forever have 2 computers up or do your screens look like mini multi-screens trying to watch, type, and read!?!  I'm 1/2 thinking to go log in my work laptop to watch one in full screen.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 windows for me
I run Ctv with Exploder and everything else in Firefox.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

two screens
Laptop showing the race. Desktop with PC and various live tickers.

by PopUp Rolen on Apr 6, 2008 7:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brian just said keep refreshing
which I know is the last thing you want to hear but. On a lighter note, I love the Skil Shimano Capt. America kits, but Topsport has a good one too.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did he mention
whether I should refrain from killing anyone?

I like to think that threats get results.

Nice corner there. Yoyoing off the back at de Ronde!

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'm in ......
finally! Woo Hoo
"The ox is slow but the earth is patient."

by Teel 22 on Apr 6, 2008 7:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hehe
I still want 5pts for my entry at the top of the page. I woke up about 3:30 and was thinking about the race and it just came to me. Honestly. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Molenberg climb is at 107k to go,
no rain right now, and mostly dry roads here in Oodenstaat.  Nikki, I'm on one computer, w/the PdC taking up 1/3 of my screen.  Gap 1:58 w/124k to go.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

urge to kill subsiding.
I'm in. But at what psychological cost?

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CTV
What is they say...if something is worth it it has to have alittle hardship! I hope we now have continuous and lovely streaming. WE believe the headlong rush at start time is over and we should be okay to the end.

Apologies for your troubles....we're shifting on June 3rd to a massive new infrastructure...we'll be off current systems onto JumpTV and that network has over 11 million users a month.

Capacity is no issues now other than the bottleneck on login...it's just getting through...we double servers on Friday night...

Once in the streaming is no problem that is what is really frustrating, once in we could stream to millions at the very high quality.

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slippies
No word on Will's knee but I would expect them to try and animate as the day goes on.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm in!
Morning fellow freaks

by Jimbo... on Apr 6, 2008 7:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Greipel!
Is that the pro tour leader's jersey I see?

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What the hell is Van SummerAle
doing at the back? Ride in the front idiot!
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

20 min to get in to c.tv
morning all
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 7:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tombak
with the bare arms. Respect.

My favorite chapter in Lance Armstrong's War is the part about Eki, and how the eastern Euro guys pedal through corners, the implication being they don't really care what about happens if they clip a pedal.

Excellent use of a bike lane there.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops, I did it again
Re-upped w/ cycling.tv. But only after demanding they explain what steps they're taking to become competent humans. After responding nastily to their initial standard email, I got another email that was much more contrite (though it still didn't explain what they're doing to fix the problem. I wouldn't understand anyway).

I guess that'll have to do.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 6, 2008 7:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crazy
cutting through the crowds
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is f.up...
40 minutes of error messages, blank screens and freakin' de panne replays?  Unconscionable.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 7:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really?
Dude, I so feel for you... Keep going! It'll be worth it.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, it is terrible service,
but hang in there and keep trying.  We've all been there, I'm afraid.  

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Don't Understand?!?!??!
I just... just... want... want to kill
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 7:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amazing pictures
of what guys are willing to do to get in position before a climb. If you don't pancake a spectator, you can move up a bit!

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it more dangerous to be
a spectator during the Ronde or a hunting partner of Dick Cheney? Coin flip.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

molenberg coming
that padestraat also looks painful

by King of Doping on Apr 6, 2008 7:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ruthann
time to rename your morning bloody mary a Joost Posthuma. Out of respect for the poor guy.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jens
have you framed the ad from road of him yet?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Done. Poor guy.
Look at the crowds!  So cool.  The gutters along the cobbled street are pure mud and puddles, so it must have rained really hard last night...

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cobbles!
Hey, have any of you seen the new Boonen Specialized ad, where his body is morphing into cobblestones? Awesome, wish I could get a poster of that.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Direct link to the Ctv page, anyone?
I can't find my way to it, for some reason... god.

by BDBrian on Apr 6, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Direct Link to Premium
Cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/live-race-viewer?id=1102

This is the easiest route

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One window to have
If you can handle multiple windows / tabs, here's one to keep handy:

http://rvv.be/2008/eng/parcours/hellingen.html

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Allan Davis racing for Mitsubishi
this year, didn't know that.  Shout out from Anthony and Brian, and instructions to check the InnerTube site for instructions on how to get in.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi Anthony and Brian!
They just issued the hang-in-there message for anyone still waiting to login. I'm convinced it's just a volume issue, will settle down soon.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

morning all
really morning for some of you west coasters!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brian says
to check into the innertube (for PdCers) and they're offering help getting in. Dunno what that means but maybe they're looking out of us.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:39 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or
how you're supposed to get to the innertube if you can't login.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Innertube
Innertube runs off different servers so as not to stress race servers.

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Live video streams
There are a bunch of live video streams at

http://www.cyclingfans.com/

by Toyota on Apr 6, 2008 7:40 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do you know
if anything works? For the people struggling to log in...

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn't work for me
not tinyviewer, nor one other
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 7:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching on cycling.tv
and reading tickers, don't know about the other streams!

by Toyota on Apr 6, 2008 8:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Streams
And if anyone is getting the Eurosport streams in the US or anyother streams then say so, because if you are they are breaching our Copyright and we'll take action.

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evolution
So Cycling.tv has exclusive North American video rights? You guys are players now!

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure
because CTV has done such a great job of making sure that folks in the US get access to that programming.  I'm sure you'll get loads of email.

by Sui Juris on Apr 6, 2008 8:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's so early here...
that my kids are still asleep

by Jimbo... on Apr 6, 2008 7:40 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Molenberg
less than half km

7% avg
13% max
no shortage of cobbles.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:40 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Move up!
Danny Pate hanging on by his fingernails.

Easy for me to say!

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:40 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zabel
flatted

by Bruce on Apr 6, 2008 7:42 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zabel has a knack
for flats and crashes at the worst times. bad karma?
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:44 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Molenburg...14%
narrow
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 7:44 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh!
Couldn't find it and didn't know it was you. Hold on.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 7:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

totally stopped
at the back of the field
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hink-a-pee at the front of the climb!
Good show, George!  Huge traffic jam at the back of the pack at the bottom of the climb!

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ete's back
in line
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zabel just waiting
for the field to get going.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unreal
traffic on the Molenberg. Cyclocross time!

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cool
Easy to understand how the field winnows in conditions like that. How many times can you stand to deal with stopping, starting, walking and chasing before you say fuck it?

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:47 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CycleTo
has pictures up, check the diaries.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

george
sweet pic of hincupie
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CTV Short Cut
If this helps

Cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/live-race-viewer?id=1102

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

field
going piano, so many will get back into the field
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok... wtf with ctv????
I'm in... I get replays of old races... there's no link into the Ronde... I just get the "Today!" but no link in it!  Going on one hour now...  and there's no help in the Innertube that I can find.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 7:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am... "An internal server error occured...
...please try again later"
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 7:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also
use links at cyclingfans to hold you over with some video if need be??

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, that sucks! Did you try
opening a new browser and using the link they provided?

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here you go. Live Race or Premium it's all there.
Cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/live-race-viewer?id=1102

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 7:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you don't deserve
to be in business...!

fucking unbelievable.

by orangekick on Apr 6, 2008 8:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 riders still in the lead, gap 1:16,
and Wagner from Skil Shimano out front of the peloton, trying to make it up to the front.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shame for Zabel
But how often otherwise do we get to see the back of the field in places like that.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 7:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gilbert
problems

by Bruce on Apr 6, 2008 7:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a shot of the famous
belgian stand in the field and wave flags club.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Robert Wagner
off the front. No sign of Stephanie Powers.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gilbert doesn't
even wear gloves on a day like today!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

check that
it's his teammate.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The frustrating thing for me...
...is that I had long ago given up on ctv. Then, mysteriously, I get this e-mail this morning reading in part:

This email confirms that you sent 19.99 GBP to Narrowstep Ltd as a subscription payment.

-----------------------------------
Payment Details
-----------------------------------

Date of payment:  6 Apr 2008
Amount:  19.99 GBP

Couldn't log in, but it let me reset my password. But now...nothing.

So look, I wasn't even a member, but I still got charged to not see the race!

by Christopher on Apr 6, 2008 7:55 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sub
What is your username and we'll fix it now. With a 19.99 sub you really are an old and loyal subscriber so we need to activate this now.

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Five Mins
Give me 5 minutes...then try again.

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Activated
Mr Rowe,

You are all fully functioning...we'd like to get you off those old Narrowstep auto renews and onto ourown systems...but that's for another day...

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks
I'll write y'all this week and we'll see what we can figure out.

by Christopher on Apr 6, 2008 8:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone have an ID on the
Slipstream rider near the front?

by Cyclingrush on Apr 6, 2008 7:57 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meatball?
the earlier shot looked like him
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sun!
the sun just popped out here. goodness it's early for sunday. so much coffee already my stomach hurts.  might have to try ruthann's bloody mary approach.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 7:57 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wet
bad weather

by Bruce on Apr 6, 2008 7:58 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SNOW!
Are you kidding?

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 7:58 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

snow
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 7:58 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Snow
London is white...first snow of the year! Belgium should stay clear...

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Snowing!
icky conditions.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 7:59 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, rain, rain, rain, rain, sleet,
snowflakes. Holy shit!  With the Wolvenberg at 87k to go, this is going to be amazing!

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 7:59 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, 97k to go on the climb,
2 riders Tomak and Bweeg! rider 1:21 out front.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 8:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Astana grouping...
at the back (3 of them anyway)
Chav. 3rd
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Snow!
What a contrast to the Florida panhandle.

by Cyclingrush on Apr 6, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed!
Weather is never a problem at the Ronde van Vloorida Panhandle

:p

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wolvenberg
asphalt at least. Wicked narrow. 645 meters avg 8%

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wolvenberg
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hehehehe
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

coffee taking effect
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zabel
back to the front group again.

by Monty. on Apr 6, 2008 8:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So the question is
800kbp feed is running great. Do I dare try 1200?
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 8:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was wondering the same
decided to play it safe here
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Working well here
Surprisingly, the 1200 doesn't suck.

by BDBrian on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha
you'll stop my 800 feed if you try!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1200
I'm on 1200 and it's been great thus far
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 8:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, it works via Eurosport
why did I ever pay for this the aggravation CTV hands me a couple of time a week...?

by orangekick on Apr 6, 2008 8:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Try 1200 kbs
You can try 1200 kbs, the only issues you'll get will be at your ISP end, if you have the capacity it will work. The streaming part is easy...these Limelight streams aregorgeous and reliable...if you have the capacity at your end.....!

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least i'm a new ctv subscriber...
I can't believe you guys re-upped for this shit.  I can't even login anymore... I just keep getting a goddamn Internal Server Error.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try it with firefox
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally
And then past the feed URL into a media player and you can ignore all of the Ctv ugliness

by Jimbo... on Apr 6, 2008 8:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Refresh the page...
It is all fine....

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cycling.TV
I know a few have had trouble this morning, but thanks to C.TV for being here in the forum and trying to help.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i sent service an email this week
and told them to keep an eye on PdC if they wanted to get in some PR repair
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr. Van P
email me off line with the answer to the Hed competition!

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've decided
not to temp fate - 800 it is.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Brian and Anthony
just stole Chris' joke from 20'ago.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The 4 riders out front are back
together again, 90k to go, Oudenaarde, gap 1:11.

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oude Kwaremont
in 11km:

2.2km long, 4% avg but 11.6% max. Lotta cobbles.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

attack!
SDV rider, small group forms, field letting it go.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

attack attempt
Saunier duval with pal, leakygas, cofidis, lampre
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oude K coming up
It's about to go off!!!!
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CSC at the back
Just trying to get everything together, I guess, before the Kwaremont.

Also: Franzoi is out? That's gonna hurt Pippo a lot. He was Ballan's best helper last year.

by BDBrian on Apr 6, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of CSC at back, getting set at team car
wonder about the break...early, but good people?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Off the back
guys gearing up now. This is one of the last uneventful stretches of any length left in the race.

http://rvv.be/2008/charts/profiel.png

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crash
Saunier, Astana, Credit-Agricole, and De Jongh looking really bad

by BDBrian on Apr 6, 2008 8:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

de Jong
on the floor. Looks like a broken bootie.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the front 4 is now a 5
not sure how far back to next break

De Jong looks like maybe a hip injury, or just generally hit hard

--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bweeg #56
stopped on side
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*sigh*
sigh I feel totally ripped off.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy sheit
is the Koppenberg going to be a mess...

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

serious stuff here
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Devolder
Anyone want to place a bet on the Devolder suicide attack?

I'm thinking the Koppenberg.

by BDBrian on Apr 6, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gilbert looks like
a hitman or a Guy Ritchie extra.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Curious George?
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is wonderful!
So glad I got up for this... and so glad I am not riding in that weather

by Jimbo... on Apr 6, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4km to the Oude K.
And you better get your ass up front if you still want to be in the race after that.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

slippie
anyone know if it's Ryder, Martyn, or Huub?  These 3 I can't pick our right away...
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all clumped up again
maneuvering at the front starting, all itchy and rocking
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hwg
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

van Summeran
ripping it onto the climb.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CSC hard at front
others trying to come arond the side
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CyclingDan, you can get
into the UK Eurosport link and watch the coverage, link found at www.cyclingfans.com

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It just worked for me.
...wait to get through the advertising, and then the coverage is nice and clear!

by Ruthann on Apr 6, 2008 8:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not in the USA...
if Eurpsort areshowing the US we'll take action...

This is on Worldwide, but we share Europe. Itis exclusive in the US.

It should be easier for Roubaix as itus US only...

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

amazing
van Summeran whipped up the pace until the farm road, now it looks like a club ride. No way for anyone to move up on this narrow road.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im at 400 kbps
anyone with better resolution, please ID faces [grin]
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

calm before the storm
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

\\0/
at the front, dreaming of his second place.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a brief rage interlude...
The cycling tv folks said the problem was solved.

Why have I been getting 404 errors for 20 minutes

Waste of money and time!!!!! No problems w/ cycling TV for the previous two seasons. The new interface's "improvements" make me want to do violence.

<now back to the racing>

by Koppenberg on Apr 6, 2008 8:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All is okay
Press refresh and use htis link Cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/live-race-viewer?id=1102

all is fine...

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

<expletives deleted>
I've redacted my original comments. Suffice it to say, your definition of "fine" is worlds apart from mine.

by Koppenberg on Apr 6, 2008 8:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell me what process you see?
Are you on a PC or Mac?

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hoste visible and twitching
no arms yet, too slippery
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

High road
kicks up the pace. Klier??

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

flecha
following high road attack and Hoste!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not an attack
More just self-preservation. They're lining it out some to survive the skinny pave.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oude K
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flecha
moves to the front to set the pace. He is serious! Hoste drifitng back a bit.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pub at the top
How many days ago did you need to get there for a table? flat now, should come together in a moment unless Vaitkus has something in mind... at 78km to go.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vaitkus
and Flecha are the first two up the climb. Pave looks quite greasy. Small gap to next two riders.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 pulling away slightly
not the big names
Vaitkus and ???
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are pushing the attack
Hoste is the third rider. This is a real move!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No CSC?
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paterberg
A mere 360 meters. But:
  • all cobbles
  • 13% avg
  • 20% max

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all together
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 6, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boonen and van Summeran
join the party. Hoste's arm is preparing to wave. SLIPSTREAM! Hincapie following across the small gap. Heads of state to the front.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no
see my note above. I think it has to be Huub, Martyn, or Ryder.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 6, 2008 8:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

H\\o/ste
Draws out Boonen briefly. Testing, 1...2...3...

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Cycling.TV if you're still in here...
Two hours I've been waiting.  I get better service at the DMV.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 6, 2008 8:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It doesn't make sense.
IF you load Cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/live-race-viewer?id=1102

sign in it shoudl work...if it times out the first time just refresh...it is working as you can see and i just logged in just now.

by Cycling TV on Apr 6, 2008 8:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PR LIES!
"Should" doesn't cut it

by Koppenberg on Apr 6, 2008 8:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Paterberg will be
a mess. Count on it.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Apr 6, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They shut off the gas
This was merely a body blow in what will surely be a war of attrition in these conditions.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paterberg w/ sleet
some kind of nightmare
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CSC in the field
It looks like Cancellara...
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CSC
attack!

by Bruce on Apr 6, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crash at back
someone tossed over the median into the field
Breschel? Up again and moving, bike not happy
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 6, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yikes

Breschel? Not Cancellara, that's for sure. Nobody helping him at the moment.

by Chris... on Apr 6, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lots of pressure
on the front, being applied by van Summeran. Is this the Tour de France?
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 6, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions