BREAKING: Training Crash Dents Caisse; Arroyo Out?

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 5:20 PM EDT in News Comment 23 comments

According to this link with help from our own King of Doping, Caisse d'Epargne's Perez Sanchez, Karpets, Arroyo and Joaquim Rodriguez were all involved in a crash outside Palermo today. KoD reports that Arroyo will have to give up his starting place to ~~Daniel Moreno~~ Mathieu Perget. Update [2008-5-8 18:20:21 by chris]: Perez out too; Moreno in. Bit of a sucker punch for Unzue's boys, though if anyone can bounce back from this loss (and hopefully otherwise only minor scrapes), it's CdE. Let's see if they can manage a strong TTT Saturday regardless.

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linky sez..

That Gazzetta report doesn't confirm that Arroya is out, only that he is at risk of "forfeiting." I don't see anything further info. just yet.

You know there's a grand tour 'bout to start when the freak accidents start happening. Bubble wrap, anyone?

by gavia on May 8, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ooog, should be Arroyo

lol, he um, got a little girly in my previous. sorry davey.

by gavia on May 8, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

David

de la Arroyo. Not to be mean, but if I had to guess who caused it...

"If writing too much about the classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

backstory

"If writing too much about the classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oopsy!

by gavia on May 8, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now I remember

the look on Mick Rodger's face when he had to abandon after this crash. I cried big tears just watching him.

If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague

by bethie on May 8, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hard to forget

some of those when you see the guys climbing back up the hills (or not). I felt so bad for RH on that one.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on May 8, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eurosport says Arroyo broke his arm

His substitute is someone else.

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/08052008/58/giro-d-italia-arroyo-giro.html

by NE Observer on May 8, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Someone else than Moreno

by NE Observer on May 8, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

David Arroyo & Fran Perez

are both out.
Sartlist is updated at
http://startlist.cyclingfever.com/startlist.html?_p=startlijst&id=18757
see
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/ciclismo/es/desarrollo/1121139.html

by lucybears on May 8, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think

I am gonna hurl.

"If writing too much about the classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh no!!!

Awful! Very bad luck for Caisse!

I HATE crashes, broke my hip years bach when I went down, very painfull!

Noval(Astana)is having food poisoning, Morabito will replace him if gets there in time for the doping test.

by Bruce on May 8, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Food poisoning?

In Italy? Talk about ironic punishment.

"If writing too much about the classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ironic for sure

but can happen anywhere, even in Italy...

by Bruce on May 8, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently

northern California is not the only place that cyclist get "food poisoning"...

by Jimbo... on May 8, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's a question

WHY DOESN'T VELONEWS HAVE THIS YET?!?! Don't they have a webmaster who can grab stuff on the fly and post it? Seriously, we do this shit on our coffee breaks and we're hours ahead of those guys. I really don't understand how the traditional media works. Yes, I love the reporting they do that I can't. But, honestly, why have a website and purport to be the top brand in Cycling if you can't pay some kid to troll for breaking stories?

"If writing too much about the classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I've checked

the site multiples times today, no updates, nada information about the Giro. Very lame IMO.
Euro sites (and this place)are wayyyy ahead of them.
Bad work by them, since I'm sure I'm not the only one looking for English info and back ups/stories. Cyclingweekly is ok, and Pez is always there where he is needed. Even GW has fresher thoughts than Velonews has provided so far and he is a photographer, not a journo for crying sake!

by Bruce on May 8, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what you said.

Both VN and CN sorta suck at breaking stories. VN won't publish until it hits the wire feed or they can verify it themselves. Sometimes this is a good thing, since it does mean they don't feed the rumor machine too often, and they frequently do the legwork others aren't doing to confirm stories. VN is old-school journo - if they can't confirm the story, they won't run it. But they also don't have oodles of reporters, so they are going to miss stuff.

CN? Since they pull stuff from elsewhere anyway, I'm not sure why they don't have a update/briefs section. Really, they should.

Of course, if they had it together, we wouldn't get the fun of scoopin' 'em, now would we :-P

by gavia on May 8, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CN

It's really late in Australia when most stories hit the wires. And that's before we consider the giant beer cans they have there.

VN -- I absolutely appreciate the old-skool journo thing, especially when a doping rumor breaks, but this is pretty straightforward information, and pretty damned important. I guess the message is, they're a magazine with a website, not the other way around.

"If writing too much about the classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 8, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes...

It is late in Oz. But a good number of their staff is in Europe anyway. So, um, why can't they shoot a little texty up there? It's a wired world and all.

I think VN just doesn't really have the cash or the staff to be the up to the minute go-to site. It's got to be spendy to support both paper and plastic the way they're doing. It would be cool if they could rally it up though, and give us English updates all oftenlike.

Anyway, we can giggle all day as we post the news they haven't found yet ;-)

by gavia on May 8, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs